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Rate your favourite Airlines /trv/.
On which flight did you have the best/worst experience ?
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Best airline for me = KLM
I have flown with them a bunch of times and have nothing to complain about.

Best experience = Flying on a nearly empty plane with Ukraine International Airlines, pic related
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I like Spirit because it's cheap and I usually fly 4 times per year.
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Recently flew with Qatar, service is so fucking excellent on longhaul.

First leg of my trip I had a whole row for myself so I could just lay down almost fully stretched long. Also food was so good for airline food.

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Hello /trv/ - so I've spotted some pretty sexy flight deals to Bogota in January and I'd like some advice on my itinerary.

Planning to go for 12 days, but with layovers accounted for it'll be more like 10 days of on-the-ground time. Trying to play around and get more days for the price but we'll see. Internal flights to/from Cartagena aside, I'm planning more on the 'budget' end of the spectrum.

So here are some things I'm interested in and would like input on:

Bogota
>Museums, graffiti tour
>Day trip to the Salt Cathedral
>Day trip to La Chorrera waterfall
>Day trip to Cocora Valley and the Los Nevados National Park - is this viable?
>Day trip to San Agustin - is this viable?

Cartagena
>Touring the Old City, museums and the castle included
>Day trip to Santa Maria & the Tayrona National Park
>Potential day trip to the mud volcano, though I might use Bogota as a hub for most sights and be a bit more chilled in Cartagena

Basically, I'm after beautiful nature (jungles, ruins, beaches, parks) and culture. Sadly I'm not going in the right season for pic related. I don't think I have time for Medellin but you're welcome to convince me why it would be a huge mistake not to go. All suggestions welcome.
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>>1173518
Tayrona's not really a day trip, especially from Cartagena. I'd recommend spending a night or two camping in the park.
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>>1173518

Been down there a few times on semi-business trips. I have had great experiences in Colombia.

>Museums, graffiti tour
I like the Botero exhibit a lot, if you do not like paintings and sculptures of really fat men, women, horses, etc., maybe not for you! But seriously, his stuff is worth seeing.

>Day trip to the Salt Cathedral
Do this, pretty cool. If you have time to get into the town there and poke around, it is very pretty.

>Day trip to La Chorrera waterfall
>Day trip to Cocora Valley and the Los Nevados National Park - is this viable?
>Day trip to San Agustin - is this viable?

Didn't do those, so no opinion.

I did enjoy hanging out in Simon Bolivar Park and Tunal Park for people watching and just being in the country not doing much.

>Cartagena
>Touring the Old City, museums and the castle included

The old city is beautiful. Not sure it needs a tour so much as just time to poke around. It will likely be very hot and very humid, so plan a afternoon siesta nd be more active in the morning/evening.

>Day trip to Santa Maria & the Tayrona National Park
Definitely.
Never heard of the mud volcano, so no opinion.

>>1173547
Second
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>>1173547
>>1173588
Thanks for your feedback! I'll look into the Simon Bolivar Park and Tunal Park. Any thoughts on Medellin?

My employer will be sending me out of California to our new site in Chicago for 20days to train new hires. Everything is paid for, even food and gas.

This will be my first time flying out of California and into another state. I work 4day/10hour shifts which leaves me with Thursday-Saturday off.

What are the must sees and must to do? All I know are of a giant bean, deep dish pizza and a Chicago style hot dog.

I am 28 and don't feel like getting fired. And what should I stay away from. Thanks!
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South Side, I hear it's nice.
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>>1173342
> 28
> First time out of California.
Jesus.

Besides that very helpful comment, I have never been to Chicago and cannot help OP. Let's say that it's a free bump.
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Assuming you're sticking around the loop, wander around Millennium Park, see Cloud Gate and Crown Fountain, walk through Maggie Daley Park. Check out the Chicago Cultural Center, it's a pretty decent free museum. The Tiffany Dome inside there is beautiful. Out of all the museums, Art Institute and Field Museum are most worth it.

For some good (read: expensive) cocktails in that area, check out Cindy's, the rooftop bar on top of the Chicago Athletic Association Hotel. View is probably the best in the city IMO (pic related)

For some of the best "trendy" food in the city, go to Randolph Street in the West Loop. Having a burger at Au Cheval is a rite of passage, but I actually think it's a little overrated. I prefer Grange Hall Burger Bar a couple blocks west.

If you like hipster bars, go to Logan Square, Wicker Park is kinda shit nowadays desu. Check out The Whistler, Heavy Feather, or Slippery Slope right above it.

Go to Pilsen if you want the city's best Mexican food, but certain parts are still a little sketchy at night

Head to Englewood or Garfield Park if you want to get shot/score dope. Joking aside though, the Garfield Park Conservatory is totally safe so long as you get off on the green line stop and don't walk a block away in any direction. The conservatory is really great and doesn't get the patronage it should because of the area it's in.

I'm looking to learn a useful language in a decent program abroad. This blurs the line between /trv/ and /int/ but I thought I'd get better ideas here. Learning the language is the primary objective but being somewhere with interesting people, history, and culture would increase the desire to learn. I'd also like to have fun while there, whatever that might entail. Budget range is around 1000-1500 USD a month but maybe more.

FWIW I'm a 22 year old murrican and only speak English. 4 languages I've considered are:
Arabic, Mandarin, Russian, and Spanish

Spanish has obvious benefits and there are plenty of Spanish speaking countries I'd like to go to but given that I have an opportunity to go abroad and learn I'm not sure I should use that to learn a language that is easier compared to the rest. Also many people already speak it fluently in the USA.

Russian I'm leaning towards since I like Russian history and culture, there are good benefits, and it could make learning other Slavic languages easier. Relations are kind of shit, but there are many different countries I could go to learn Russian.

Mandarin I've heard anecdotes of people going there and having people just want to practice English which is understandable. I'm not sure there would be any particular benefit unless I was in some very specialized role. Of course China would be fascinating to live in and explore.

As for Arabic I'm not sure there are any suitable countries to learn in, especially for an American. There are the wealthy gulf states but that would break the bank unless I had some sort of scholarship which I don't.


Any ideas /trv/? I'm wide open to advice, or just to hear about your experiences doing something like this.
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>>1173074
if you're honestly considering spanish or arabic, you should definitely choose one of those, because you're clearly too much of an idiot to successfully learn something like chinese or russian
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>>1173092
>chinese or russian

Great choice, they'll each be useful to you in one country.

As a point of information for OP and others interested, here is a map of the primary languages spoken in different countries around the world.

Good news is, English, she is spoken more of a wideness with each day that transpires.
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>>1173142
>austria
>others

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Can someone please explain to me exactly what the "real traveler" meme is?
I'm guess it's something to do with one person being snobbish and critizing the way in which another person travels, but is there a copypasta image that it originated from?

Sorry for poor English, it is not my first language.
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>>1173042
It's a relatively newish /trv/ meme (only 2-3 years old), but since we have so few you see it a lot.

Originally, it was used to lampoon (archetypical/hypothetical) rich dreadlocked trustafarians slumming it in Africa, India or Thailand or whatever. The sort of people who purposely get tapeworm or hepatitis by eating shit so they can brag about it, and play didgeridoo in Peru, lecture you about cultural sensitivity while playing Enya music videos to African orphans.

Nowadays, a Real Travellerâ„¢ is a slur you can throw at anyone who travels in a way that you don't like.

Doesn't stay in hostels? REAL TRAVELLER!
Does stay in hostels? REAL TRAVELLER!
Carries an actual 80l hiking backpack? REAL TRAVELLER!
Carries a rolling suitcase? REAL TRAVELLER!
Eats street food? REAL TRAVELLER!
Only eats at McDonalds and fancy restaurants? REAL TRAVELLER!

You get the idea.
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I am no expert, in fact far from it. I just started to coming to sites to learn about budget traveling.

This is kind of what I have perceived, for this and a couple of other sites.

There are generally two types of travel. One, which I have done a great deal of. Where you get a decent hotel, visit mostly touristy spots, stay for a few days to a couple of weeks, and go home. Most everything is preplanned, and while not necessarily 5 star is not shoestring budget.

The other, often practiced by young people who want to see the world, have some adventures, and travel before they settle into their idea of adult life. Not say that some don't consider this the best life. Anyway, this often happens before they go to college or perhaps just after. They go for longer periods of time, often just an idea and not a real plan or reservations. They live on very little money. They often stay in hostels, because they are cheap and they meet others of a like mind. While it's often called solo travel, not many people truly want to be alone for very long.

Anyway, if I am way off I am sure someone will tell me. I am on the other end of the cycle. I already raised a family, put in 30 plus years in a career, and am now divorced and free to do whatever I want. That being said, if I am going to travel more than a couple of weeks I will have to be on a "travelers" type budget, so that I do blow my whole wad someplace like Carnival in Rio. (did that once).
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Sorry, let me continue. So that was the basics.

Now it's kind of like, people who have been doing this hard core, deep into the cultural, shun anything touristy, type travel. Look down on anyone who say went to an all inclusive for a long weekend. Like you can't even call that travel.

Not that 40 year old business guys give a shit about what 20 year olds think anyway, but the ones who really get grief, are the ones who want to come off as "real travelers" but you can tell they have never been anywhere or done anything.

I do understand that if you have had to sleep in an airport, or park, or room with two dozen other people. If you have been way out of your comfort zone, you should get some respect for overcoming challenges. I just don't think putting others who have not down really increases your status. Carry on.

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Hi /trv/! I'm an outsider of this board, and I will like to try an idea, sorry for my bad english.

I saw lot of people asking for advice about a country, but, would you recommend your country for traveling? I think it would be nice having a thread with just people saying "come here we have X".

Shall I start with my own country?
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>sorry for my bad english
>posting aus flag as his own country

just another cheap indian shill
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I would definitely recommend going to Cuba (my birthplace), it's absolutely gorgeous and full of interesting history

The one caveat is that travellers should stay well away from anything government-run, because not only does that support the dictatorship but the quality of privately-owned restaurants and lodging is just superior in every way
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>>1173032
Laying aside the clumsy troll attempt in post 2, this might be a fun thread.

US here, our natural park system is amazing, museums in Washington, New York and Chicago (and others) are among the best in the world, our kitschy roadside attractions (SEE THE WORLD'S BIGGEST FRYING PAN!) add a dash of absurdity to your travels and the geographic and social diversity we have means when you get tired of one thing, there are a dozen alternatives waiting for you.

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New Japan General, Cosplay Edition

As always, feel free to ask about:
>Traveling to Japan
>Living in Japan
>Teaching in Japan
>Joining the Yakuza
>Getting your weeb fantasies crushed

*Info on prostitution*
>http://rockitreports.com/category/sex-in-tokyo/
>http://erolin.net/

*Note about the JR Pass*
Many people ask about whether or not the JR Rail Pass is worth it. It depends on your itinerary.

>http://www.hyperdia.com/en/
Plug your itinerary into Hyperdia to determine ticket costs, then compare to the below JR Pass options:
>7 day Pass: 29,110Â¥
>14 day Pass: 46,390Â¥
>21 day Pass: 59,350Â¥

Please check the /trv/ sticky before asking questions. It's filled with links to great resources, many of them specific to Japan travel.

Please refer to the old thread while it's still up: >>1170001
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Reposting, as I was 5 minutes late for the last thread...

I'm planning a trip to Japan for August 2017.

My plan is to fly from Fankfurt to Tokyo stay there for 5 or 6 days, continue to Hiroshima, visit Kure from there and do some general sighseeing, continue to Nagasaki with a visit to Sasebo. From there on I'd take a flight to Okinawa and finally back to FRA.

I intend to do this in 3 weeks, however I have a few questions.

Is 4 locations too much for 3 weeks? If so, should I skip Tokyo or Okinawa and save it for another visit? Hiroshima and Nagasaki are both a must-see.

How much of a hassle is it to transfer from HND to NRT? The flighs I have planned now has a transfer time of 12 hours, which I guess should be fine. There aren't any connecting flights with less time and more would mean a single night in a hotel which I think is annoying.

Are there no direct flights between HIJ and NGS? It seems kinda pointless to go right back to HND just to turn around south.
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>>1172815
If I'm just going to stay in Japan for 10 days, would it be worth going to Okinawa for two days? I'd love to visit Okinawa but I'm afraid of losing too much time on it when I could be visiting Osaka/Kyoto instead. It would be my first time in Japan and probably my last one for a big while.
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In the Tokyo area:
Akihabara, of course, is the electronic district in Tokyo. You can spend all day just walking around there and looking.
The Meiji-jingu temple near Harajuku is a really nice temple and Harajuku itself is an interesting place to walk around (especially on "cosplay" Sunday)
Ueno has a nice park and zoo and also a lot of museums.
You can visit the Emporer's palace a few blocks from the Tokyo station, but they wont let you in the gates except 2 days a year, in December and January. It has a nice park, though and you can see some of the buildings over the wall a bit.
Tokyo Tower near Akabanebashi station is cool as well as the Zoujoji temple near it.
The Kiyosumi garden was a nice place to visit near the Kiyosumishirakawa station.
Shibuya for lots of shopping for clothes (in asian sizes), but expensive.
Roppongi for the night life. It is foreigner central, plan to stay out all night if you go there and don't bring any credit cards. The clubs and bars like to rip you off if you do.

Outside the Tokyo area:
About a 30 min train ride south is Yokohama. There, visit Sakuragicho (Cosmo World) and the Landmark Tower.
About a 45 min train ride south on the Yokosuka JR line is the really old capitol of Japan, Kamakura. There is a large temple district as well as the largest sitting Buddha in Japan.
If you want to travel a couple hours west, you can go to Odawara and see the beautiful Odawara castle.
About a 45 min train ride northwest of Odawara is Hakone where there are some great Onsens (Hot Springs) and gardens.
Another 30 min bus ride (or a series of trains and a gondalier) north of Hakone is Owakudane where the sulfer springs are at boiling temperature and is a sight to see. They will even boil some eggs for you to eat in the springs.

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Hey /trv/, Im gonna be going home on leave soon and I had a few questions that maybe yall can help me with. I recently got into smoking and vaping and im going home where my parents dont know I smoke, and Ill be using their car while im there so I wanted to bring my vape so their car doesnt smell like smoke everytime I use it.
so tldr:
>can I bring my vape through customs in my carry on luggage onto a plane?
>can I bring cigarettes
>can I bring a magnet that goes into the airvent of a car to place your phone on for road trips
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pic related is the magnet thing i was talking about
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>>1172662
Vape - Sure you can, if you put it in your liquids bag.
Cigarettes - up to a certain amount, depending on where you go.
Magnet - people generally bring back fridge magnets with no problems.
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of course you can, why wouldn't you?

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Dedicated to the most beautiful, magical place on earth, the land of the ancient Inca, Peru ! Post pics of Peru to show what this mystical land has to offer ! Offer up your tales of your exploits in Peru ! Action, Adventure, Romance, Drama, Erotica, show us what experiences Peru has to offer !

I'll start with some pics and if if anyone is interested I will offer stories of requested topics, claro ?
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How does /trv/ learn foreign languages? Rosetta Stone is nice but I'd love some supplemental study.
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Bump, please help an anon out.
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what language, anon?

effective methods vary wildly depending on the language and the iq of the individual
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>>1171276

It depends if you actually want to learn the language, or just know enough to do and say basic things. Either way if you are using Rosetta Stone you will want a complimentary grammar book with exercises.

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So /trv/ is there anyway for me to earn a lot of money in a relative short amount of time in Europe for traveling?

I'm soon to finnish school and I am reasonably fit and willing to do the most backbreaking slave labor out there if it means I can get out of here as soon as possible.
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Which country are you from? Are you looking to make money in your home country or in europe somewhere?
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>>1171122
Waitress doing doubles all the week
Or bartender the same but you need to pay for a course
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>>1171123
perhaps I phrased it wrong. I am from Europe, northern Germany to be exact. I am willing to go anywhere really.

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What is the most overrated place to visit?
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>>1163693
Yo-momiya, Japan
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>>1163693
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>>1163693
With the acknowledgment that this is totally subjective, I was hugely underwhelmed by Sannibel Island, FL.

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I live in the Bay Area and I want to go on vacation somewhere close by (because closer = cheap). Any recommendations?

Things I like:
- day hikes
- walking around aimlessly in very dense cities, going into random buildings and trying street food (this is only really feasible in East Asia, unfortunately)

Things I dislike:
- typical tourist destinations and sightseeing
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>>1174597
Colombia has your name written all over it.
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>>1174599
Why Colombia? AFAIK, isn't Colombia a little dangerous?
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>>1174600
In spots, but it is easy to avoid those. Bogota, Cartagena, even Medellin, and any number of others, are as safe as cities anywhere else. And there are amazingly beautiful stretches of countryside, which may not matter to you. food is good, including street food.

Like any foreign city, you want to do a little research on which parts you might want to avoid.

Flights are pretty reasonable, prices are as well.

Maybe it won't appeal to you, it is not noted for a particularly distinctive cuisine or anything. But worth looking into.

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How possible is it to do a year of work and travel akin to what you can do in Australia and the Schengen zone?

From what I can tell the only visas that would work are H-2A or H-2B for agricultural- and non-agricultural-work respectively. I this in any way similar to the australian and european ones? Which one is preferable and what does non-agricultural imply.

I am a german citizen and fluent in english so there shouldnt be a problem there. My motivation to go is that I may or may not have a year of spare time between changing university (bad timing, I know) and really dont want to stay here working minimum wage wasting away from boredom.
Im interested in the US because its more different from Europe and more diverse than Australia. Id like to spend time pretty much in every part of the country working whatever is available (preferably hostels or similar stuff but Im physically able to do most kinds of work).

So how good of an idea is that? The alternative is to work here for a couple of months and then travel through Africa or something, so Im not too set on anything at the moment.
Is the H-2(probably)B visa what Im looking for or is there another one designed for long term tourists? How hard is it to find work in different parts of the country at different times of the year?
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>>1174415
it's pretty hard

it's not an exaggeration to say you'd have an easier time coming here illegally and then just leeching welfare, than you would to come here to work

civil service functions are heavily localized, but local offices get federal money for each person they serve in terms of welfare. they make money by giving illegal immigrants welfare. the visa office doesn't make money either for denying or accepting immigrants, though.

so we end up with a system whereby local offices are incentivized to give benefits to literal criminals, but deny legals

everything is broken here. nothing works. literal murderers here get leniency, and then on top of it get EXTRA welfare, but taxpayers get less every year. it's why we're fucking angry.
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J1 Visa, just got back from a year in the states 3 weeks ago. Recommend it. Upgraded career met qt's travelled everywhere.
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>>1174423
Thank you for that! Hadnt heard of this visa before and it definitely sounds interesting.

I have a few questions though:
How does the sponsor thing work and which one did you have?
I see for example that one program is called "college and university student" so I guess that makes sense for me but really it just shows me a list of universities in the US, which isnt very helpful.

Is the sponsor the place where I would work at for the entire duration of the stay?

Does it have to be exactly one year or can it be a bit less?

What kind of work can I expect to do? Could I for example do something like a working student in my field (physics)?

Do I get to travel through the entire country or is the job stationary and I can only travel during vacation?

>>1174421
Ill take it into consideration thank you! However Im not too concerned about things not working. Its what makes a country interesting after all (and as I stated in the OP my alternative would probably be travelling through Africa so thats how much I care for infrastructure to work or administrations to make sense...)

Though entering the US illegally is actually an interesting thought. Do you know of anyone who has crossed the border from Mexico or Canada (I think a working visa is fairly easy there) illegally for touristic reasons? Not saying I would actually do it but thatd definitely be something worth telling a tale about...
How would I apply for welfare as an illegal immigrant? Does it work with bribes or do they literally just take their bonus and give me whatever since its not directly their money thats being spent? I honstely am not a huge fan of living off of welfare myself but I am all for abusing dumb systems!

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Hey /trv/ I am going to south America shortly and can have a stop off for a couple of days in either:
Los Angeles
Houston
San Francisco

Which would you recommend and why?

Thanks
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What do you like to do, what interests you.

I would not recommend Houston, unless you want to go to the NASA stuff there, whihc is worth seeing if you are a space buff. And there are some good places to eat there. Nut otherwise it struck me as a pretty soulless city.

Pic slightly related, it;s the Saturn 5 that is in Florida, but there is one in Houston as well.
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>>1174324
San Francisco is nice, but you have to drive so fucking much to even enjoy anything
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https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Avoiding_travel_through_the_United_States

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