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>>2701955
Don't

Go do something productive with your time

Can you tell me how to make vaporwave songs to go along with my vaporwave art?

Take it seriously. I can't tell you how much it pisses me off to see minimal effort treated as the norm. Vaporwave art can be beautiful, but it can also be terrible. Usually, terrible art is the result of a person who is doing it because they think it's easy. It's not.

I'm sure you can see the difference between this:
http://imgur.com/a/5R0q5
https://www.reddit.com/r/VaporwaveArt/comments/52ra5g/doggo_surfs_the_vaporwave/

And this:
http://i.imgur.com/0mt11EJ.jpg
http://66.media.tumblr.com/171d9ef06f10a3ed865a0ac2f5458c2f/tumblr_odo72cXeEy1vgnjbjo1_1280.jpg

The former represents low-effort shit. The latter, something made by a person with a desire to make pleasing art.

There's a bunch of stuff here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/vaporwaveart

>>2701846
>How much detail
It's not about the detail itself, it's about the perception of said detail. If you are drawing and don't think it's complete work, and you think it's just a rough draft of what is to come, then it's a sketch in your eyes; which is what art is all about, subjectivity and perception.

In other words: You'll never make it.

~ 64%

I do love seeing good sketches but why
do people never finish them?

>>2701580
The penor

>>2701580
the s pen for galaxy notes

>>2701580
Wrap the end of a ball point pen in foil after taking out the nib and ink. Secure with take if need be. I found it works really well if you're looking for something sturdy to draw with. Need to smoothen out the foil though. Takes like 1 minute to make at no cost too.

>>2701324

Having 1000 die-hard fans is difficult though, especially on the internet where attention you get is very ephemeral and after a year or two you might be old news.

Also having each of them spend 100$ per annum is quite a lot. It's more than $8/month.

Thinking in terms of Patreon, you'd have to be in the first 150 best creators. Even people in the rear are quite profilic and have been there for years.

Moreover, not every niche will be big enough for you to fill. Even dedicated and very long lasting communities, like the Quake 3 Arena/Quake Live community, are actually around 500 people actively watching streams and less than that donating to tournaments or subscribing $5 for streams.

Also, see at Mohrbacher: he gets like 300 people on Patreon and supplements it with sales of his $10 prints. Do you think he has 1000 people that will be dedicated to him for the next 5-10 years? Do you think his fanbase will grow if he will still speciallize in angels only?

It's a nice theory in OP, but it's kinda more difficult than "simply have 1000 true fans".

On the other hand there are people like Mark Carder that price their oil paintings between $30 000 - $75 000, but he is a guy who did, among others, portrait of George W. Bush when he was still a president...

>>2701324
Old

>>2701324
I don't want true fans. True fans are the kind of creep who will stalk you, send you semen letters and dry hump you in public. Then they are too autistic to survive on their own and you end up having to take care of them.

Lucky, most people care about art, not artists, so they will split their 100.

Also, instead of 100,000 income, 20,000 is a better target.

People spending $20-30/year on you is actually realistic.

>>2699738
http://youtu.be/7rI6q6bv7do
Taught me about the fundamentals

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxGRhd_iWuE

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>>2699744
This Dave Rapoza vid also inspires and motivates me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RRmDJ6lCcQ

post your work?

I can sell you "the spark" for $450.00 paypal, since you obviously don't have it.

Talent is real.

>Hambrick spent weeks tracking down data for P.G.A. tour stats and running analyses to determine how the pros reached their level of success. The work continued when he returned to Atlanta, and even went on into the first years of his professorship at Michigan State University. But the analyses weren’t turning out quite as expected—training was not explaining nearly as much as it should. So, while the work languished in unpublished state, Hambrick began to focus more and more on the other possible components of expert accomplishment. Of course, training was important—but how important? “I started to ask, Well, wait a second, can these strong claims about the primacy of practice actually hold up—is there the evidence to back it up?”

>The more he researched, the more he concluded that the answer was no. No matter how much he had practiced as a teen-ager, he would never have reached the P.G.A. tour. Of course, he’d known that all along, on some level—after all, he quit golf. People do have natural ceilings to their talent in any given area, and after a certain point their success arose from things other than deliberate practice.

is this real life

I hate this board

looooooool

That there is literally no way you can prove you're good at art except by being a pro already.

Mine is when autists bitch and moan incessantly about other artists, gossiping and shit-talking like teenaged girls.

>>2693421
Fuck you buddy. We're all just here to have a good time.

>>2701384
Maybe they get afraid of the phrase, "jack of all trades, master of none" and would rather pile all their effort into one rather than diversify.

>>2701384
I don't :^)

>>2701387
I'm master of all trades, jack of none :^)

>>2701384
it's easier
therefore more efficient task of getting money

>>2698768
FAQ:
Something's broken, what do I do?

>The site is currently in the alpha phase of development and is being built around us as we compete so sometimes things go wrong. If you ever need any help send me a tweet @LavaFlake or shoot me an email [email protected].

What do we draw?

>Whatever you want. At this point there's no required topic so draw your heart out. Make sure you submit at least a half hour of work or you may get a low effort warning.

What's a low effort warning?

>The goal is to get people to draw every day by turning it into a competition. The low effort warning system is to prevent people from posting last minute, quick sketches when they're feeling lazy. If you receive a warning and it happens again within a month you'll be eliminated.

>This rule has been the cause of a lot of concern amongst newer artists so let me reiterate: this system is to police low effort content and has nothing to do with the quality of the work. New artists are more than welcome.

What happens if I'm eliminated?

>A new Last Artist Standing challenge starts every week. If you get eliminated then get it together and rejoin next week.

How can there be a new Last Artist Standing challenge every week?

>This is a way to let new artists join in and to allow re-entry for the eliminated. Every week a new challenge is started. If you joined on week 1 and make it to week 2 then your daily submission counts for both the first and second Last Artist Standing. If you get eliminated then you're eliminated from both challenges and you'll be able to rejoin next week.

Will I have an advantage if I join later in the week?

>The winner of a Last Artist Standing will be the artist with the longest streak. If you join on day 1 and last until day 85 then you'll have a streak of 85. If there's only one person left in the challenge when you're eliminated but they joined on Day 7 then they'll need to continue on for another week. If they're eliminated before then, you win.

>>2698769
This is a list of anons who regularly stream, this list will be updated as we move forward, if you wish to be included please post you name/stream profile.

>STREAMERS
https://picarto.tv/aimai
https://picarto.tv/CraniumOverLord
https://picarto.tv/dotesq
https://picarto.tv/JMGNfunbox
https://picarto.tv/magicoreo
https://picarto.tv/nakedoats
https://picarto.tv/N4F
https://picarto.tv/UltraBondageFairy
https://picarto.tv/VitaminNeko
https://picarto.tv/Choob
https://picarto.tv/susipari
https://piczel.tv/watch/HighOnDopamine
https://picarto.tv/namefag
https://picarto.tv/artscrub
https://picarto.tv/SubCryo
https://picarto.tv/mooff


Streamers, please let the thread know when you're streaming so people can join the "fun".

Here is a helpful tool that lets you see who is streaming at the moment:

http://doom.moe/lastools/


You can also hang out with the community on the official discord:

https://discord.gg/atc5REB

today DED 2.0?

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http://elenamanetta.tumblr.com/

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http://ilovebedsart.tumblr.com/

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http://supersegasonicss.tumblr.com/
http://supersegasonicssnsfw.tumblr.com/
Lots of toonshit.

>>2701706
>more reposts on /pol/ and /r9k/ than most other boards
fake and gay

>>2701755
hi /v/b
yfw those are big boards
>and not as yellow as /v/

>>2701638
The Zorn palette is one of the most famous and simplest. Honestly though if you have some experience in color mixing you can get flesh tones out of pretty much any balanced palette. Also worth noting that "flesh" is not a specific color but is largely dependent on the environment surrounding, and furthermore color so as long as you keep things consistent you can make almost any color look like skin.

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Traditionally, green earth for underpainting, earths and ochres and lead white for modeling, vermillion for rosy life

>>2701644
Was thinking about going Zorn pallette since I'm mostly just looking for 3 primaries, white and maybe an earth tone. I just don't want to buy 3 colors that don't go together(Makes mixing hard than what it normally is)

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>>2699679
pic related is more than enough personally, this is something I want and would regret years down the line if I gave up, so Just Keep Practicing.

maybe you are being to hard on yourself

post your work, even if you think it's bad perhaps you could find new places to improve

>>2699679
The product is never going to be the motivator. Especially not your own. That's the way filthy consumers think. You need to fall in love with the feeling that learning gives you. Like they are sisters, and the product is really hot, 10/10 bombshell, but the learning sister is cute and the one who connects with you on a deep emotional level.

>>2701381
You can always just delete fucking everything and start anew. Pretty common practice among digital artist lately.

>>2701381
Keeping up several different distinct styles is a pretty skill though?

> I don't want some of the negatives from my digital penname associated with my "real me"

Elaborate, please.