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>>2719418
>I looked, and maybe I didnt look hard enough but I've never seen /ic/'s opinion on art school?
/ic/ talks about art school constantly so I'm not sure how you missed it.

>Is it necessary?
No.

Will it help though?
Possibly. There's a million factors at play like which school, how hard you will work, what your current level is, what you want to learn, what your financial situation is, how good at making connections you are etc.

>So what should I do?
Do some research on specific schools and what they offer for what they charge. Are the instructors good? Are the students good? Are the students getting jobs? Will you learn just as quickly without school?

Degrees or diplomas don't mean much typically for getting work with some small exceptions like helping with work visas if you are foreign.

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unlike other fields where you need a degree to get in the door, an art degree isn't really necessary unless you want to get into something academic like art history or restoration. an art degree has no inherent value, it's worth comes out of the work you put in to obtain it.
there are also tons of options for education outside of a traditional university. industry specific training programs and ateliers are far cheaper and just as viable as big name art schools.
you need to ask yourself:
>what do i want to do with art?
>do i learn more effectively in a classroom environment or from self study?
>given the field that i chose, how much money can i reasonably expect to make? is it enough to cover my education?

the most important thing is to get rid of the ego you have attached to the idea of school and try to make an objective judgement of what's actually best for you.
most of us had it drilled in from an early age that if you don't go to college, you're a failure who will work at walmart until you die. right now most of my friends who went to college are working dead end retail jobs with no relation to their field of study, while i'm working towards the things i actually want to do. i might just be scraping by on shitty porn commissions, but i'm able to do so because i have no debt.

>A lot of my favorite artists went to art school and it makes me feel pressured that the next step for me has to be that.
this is the worst sort of reason to make a decision. you aren't your favorite artists, you aren't your parents, you aren't me. you are your own person and you have to learn in the manner that suits you best; that very well may be school, but make sure not to neglect the other options.

>>2719448
I must be blind as fuck then, that's good advice though thank you.

>>2719477
>this is the worst sort of reason to make a decision. you aren't your favorite artists, you aren't your parents, you aren't me. you are your own person and you have to learn in the manner that suits you best; that very well may be school, but make sure not to neglect the other options.
This really opened my eyes to be honest, thanks.

>>2718860
it's shit, kys

>>2718860
What is the thing in the center? Is it like a representation for a heart or something?

>>2718860
Pretty dumb.

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My goal is to start by drawing objects around the house like chairs, sofas, tables, etc.

But whenever I post drawings that I think are realism I get flooded by people telling me they're photocopy-tier drawings. Apparently I can't tell the difference so I'm selecting the best examples I can find in Google.

But to be clear I would like to draw from life without photocopying or symbol drawing. Accurate rendering, proportions, volumes/forms, and ultimately take these skills out to draw things outside my walls.

But printer paper has no texture. It seems impossible to get a quality finished drawing on printer paper. But am I just really shitty so I don't know how? Or do I need a specific type like newsprint?

>>2718352
Printer paper is fine to work on. It's thin and you can only rework it so much, but it's acceptable. If you want to do long studies that are taking a lot of time and energy though just get some proper paper. Printer paper is only recommended when you plan on going through reams of the stuff doing lots of quick sketches.

Printer paper doesn't have enough texture to catch graphite the right way, that's why most artist who find themselves using printer paper will use ball point pens instead.

sorry, /ic/ is only for fantasy illustration and porn.

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got a cupal samples here to see

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aBrown

really though, are these posts not yet reportable?

>>2720237
Sorry to burst your bubble buddy, but everything in your charcter is wonky. What happened to her joints? Only has 3 fingers on left and 4 on right. The torso cant connect to the head like that realistically. Character is standing in a very awkward position. You need to work on anatomy before you try to finish a piece

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can i have a r8 too

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Wanted to make the two feet distant from each others, did I push the perspective too much for the size of the right one?

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>>2710881
Cute

>>2710892
the back foot looks fine, but the position of the front one is a bit weird, it's like is she flying?

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>>2720474
>>2720475

>>2720475
This one I don't like that much. The hand and forearm just look poorly drawn instead of being a simple thing, and the idea doesn't come across well with the colours and approach.

>>2720477
These on the other hand look absolutely great in my opinion.

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>>2720450
It looks like gimmicky trash. The images are dull and it's not apparent that they're eyes. Also the pattern seems to fall apart at the apex. That being said it might look neat as a traditional painting. Maybe you could use it as a template to do something cooler. Iterate that shit.

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>>2720451
what about this one?

some of these are just iterations of the same concept, the eye one i did notice looked very dull mostly just to my images being 4k+ pixels and that eye being only 900 at best and still blurry, thanks for the time ive been trying to emulate mandalas a bit through arrays in 3D modelng programs, seems to be a broad category of untapped art with lots of unique ideas to explore. I think ill have to take some lessons on lighting though i may have forgotten some basics along the years

>>2720319
>Shitters are shit

Whats new

lol okay faggot

>>2720318
I'd imagine it's a different feel, yeah, since you're working on skin rather than flat paper, canvas, panel, etc. Might take a bit of getting used to but your skills should easily transfer.

>I use random pointless visuals in the hopes nobody realizes I have no idea what i'm doing when it comes to film or narrative

You'll never escape this feeling. You have publish whatever you want regardless of what the reception is. Don't pussy out.

>>2719075
You feel this way because you set your bar way too high, have some humility and be realistic about yourself so you wouldn't disappoint yourself by these false expectations.

Who cares about what other people think of you? Just try learning what you want to learn because of yourself, not others.

I'm planning to do a my little pony cosplaying sailor moon to get DD on deviantart

>>2706722
>Can't believe I tought back then that getting a DD was a big deserving goal for an artist.

Why would you ever have believed that? Daily Deviations have always been full of shit with the occasional decent art mixed in.

>>2706730
Still half new and DA is the biggest english "art" site, so of course DD sounded like the best title you could get for a drawing.

>>2720104
usually you can spawn a good idea just by chatting with people and eventually something interesting will come up that's worth drawing.

>>2720104
Listening to music helps, it always brings up interesting memories and visions for me.

>where do you guys get your ideas
im smart, have good taste, and have a good sense of humor. try it sometime.