Art School

>>2719418
>I looked, and maybe I didnt look hard enough but I've never seen /ic/'s opinion on art school?
/ic/ talks about art school constantly so I'm not sure how you missed it.

>Is it necessary?
No.

Will it help though?
Possibly. There's a million factors at play like which school, how hard you will work, what your current level is, what you want to learn, what your financial situation is, how good at making connections you are etc.

>So what should I do?
Do some research on specific schools and what they offer for what they charge. Are the instructors good? Are the students good? Are the students getting jobs? Will you learn just as quickly without school?

Degrees or diplomas don't mean much typically for getting work with some small exceptions like helping with work visas if you are foreign.

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unlike other fields where you need a degree to get in the door, an art degree isn't really necessary unless you want to get into something academic like art history or restoration. an art degree has no inherent value, it's worth comes out of the work you put in to obtain it.
there are also tons of options for education outside of a traditional university. industry specific training programs and ateliers are far cheaper and just as viable as big name art schools.
you need to ask yourself:
>what do i want to do with art?
>do i learn more effectively in a classroom environment or from self study?
>given the field that i chose, how much money can i reasonably expect to make? is it enough to cover my education?

the most important thing is to get rid of the ego you have attached to the idea of school and try to make an objective judgement of what's actually best for you.
most of us had it drilled in from an early age that if you don't go to college, you're a failure who will work at walmart until you die. right now most of my friends who went to college are working dead end retail jobs with no relation to their field of study, while i'm working towards the things i actually want to do. i might just be scraping by on shitty porn commissions, but i'm able to do so because i have no debt.

>A lot of my favorite artists went to art school and it makes me feel pressured that the next step for me has to be that.
this is the worst sort of reason to make a decision. you aren't your favorite artists, you aren't your parents, you aren't me. you are your own person and you have to learn in the manner that suits you best; that very well may be school, but make sure not to neglect the other options.

>>2719448
I must be blind as fuck then, that's good advice though thank you.

>>2719477
>this is the worst sort of reason to make a decision. you aren't your favorite artists, you aren't your parents, you aren't me. you are your own person and you have to learn in the manner that suits you best; that very well may be school, but make sure not to neglect the other options.
This really opened my eyes to be honest, thanks.

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someone post the infographic

you know the one

>>2719418
What's pressuring you?

>>2719418
I'm in your situation, my mother especially pressures me a lot into going to art school or a university. Try to talk with a painter you know and ask them what they think and if they know a good art school. I talked to a painter that lives near me (she had various exhibitions in Rome) and she told me what art schools I should avoid.
I still feel a bit pressured into it to be honest, I don't feel like I'm good enough to start it, I'm not sure I'm going to do well in that environment but I'm going to try anyway.

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>>2719497

>>2719497
I know the one, but I don't have it saved, wait for that one anon

>>2719573
Trust me, you're good enough. I don’t even consider myself as a decent artist and I'm younger than anyone else at my school, yet I am objectively the best of my class

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>>2719418

Art School is worthless unless you're going into some very specific Art Schools that have good programs. Generally these programs tend to be design-related. The big ones usually mentioned here are Pasadena, Sheridan and FZD.

Since I'm not suicidal enough to go to an American university, I've stayed in my country and simply decided to follow some shitty art school with a shitty fine arts degree. Aside from the frustrating, long (worthless) hours, it's good for me from a social standpoint as I've managed to make several friendships, which is what I actually needed. The school is pretty bad, and I would definitely not pick a Fine Arts degree, but the experience so far has been eye-opening enough to get me to truly buckle down and learn on my own. Also it's fairly cheap, relatively speaking.

>>2719573
I thought the point of art school was to teach shit people to be good?

>>2719618
No, that's what people think it is. It's up to shit people to become good. Art school just helps with that. A shit person is still a shit person. This is why a lot of people hate art school. It doesn't guarantee success because it all falls on you in the end.

>>2719618
Art education is just self-teach with homework and crit from professional artists.

Any great artist who went to art school became great by their own efforts. They did all the homework, read all the books, studied and practiced, took all the crits, applied all the info, etc.

Unless you go to SCAD, AAU, ArtCenter, or an atelier, it's very hard to find art waifu and sensei, who will whisper sweet nothings into your ear and hold you tight.

>>2719627
So you're saying if I do go to
>SCAD, AAU, ArtCenter, or an atelier
I can find
>art waifu and sensei, who will whisper sweet nothings into your ear and hold you tight.

It can be worth it if you're already good, several years of playing teacher's pet and shooting the shit with other equally good students and you'll have one hell of a network.

If you're going there to learn, eh. That's not to say you should try to learn in isolation or that it's free on your lonesome, but art school is very expensive and you'll get more out of it if you already know your shit. It's the Age of Information, baby, paywalled or not.

Obviously this means that art school choice matters to an extreme amount. A highly competitive, prestigious school will get your foot in the door, a typical art college will have you pissing in the rain with typical teachers who were never in the industry, let alone having connections.

>>2719633
bing bong bing bong

Couldn't find a question thread so I'm asking here.

Anyone been to Max the Mutt in Toronto? It looks incredible but still mulling over if I should fork over the money for it or not.

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>>2719497
>>2719577
>>2719588
I'm here fampaisanos

>get art job
>my art degree is from a shitass state school known for psychology and criminal justice
>they don't even verify that information
Turns out all you need to get a career in art is to have a portfolio of good art! Guh-huh!

Still, art school taught me how to critique others constructively (and accept it as well), and professors helped channel my focus on areas that were important for my growth.

It also helps you get connections.

Beyond that, your skill is always reflective of the effort you put in, and I think my biggest strides have been made through personal work (while I was in and out of school).

What should be the first job I apply to to get my foot in the door? Even if I'm not the best ever and have no work experience in the field, should I still just go for the upper echelon jobs (except art direction)? I'm guessing internships are not a good idea for this.

>>2719954

Orale compa

Does anyone have advice on good schools for 2d animation for someone living in South Carolina

>>2720874
If you don't live near the entertainment industry, there are no good schools for animation. Doesn't mean you can't still got to an art school.