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/tg/ here. I'm sure this question gets asked a lot, but why is it modern armor designs have devolved so far from Renaissance-era armor - particularly in coverage?
On a quick guess, I'm going to assume it's an extension of the same problems armorers faced then - mobility and weight. Even that new 4.4lb NIJ IV plate will soon reach overbearing weights if you tried extending it well beyond the torso.
But I rarely see protection extend beyond the torso, groin, and head. There's nothing like a kevlar gamberson to wear as your clothes beneath the vest - something with sleeves. Same for legs. Especially legs. They have thin (0.5"), 2lb plates at IIIA that could cover thighs, which doesn't sound too inhibiting. At risk of sounding ridiculous, even a sort of left-shoulder shield/plate of any coverage sounds more reliable than a bare arm.
Even if the problem is weight, mobility, heat, etc. I'm surprised there isn't some form of heavily armored troopers used to advance against fortified positions in conditions where vehicles aren't appropriate - such as storming buildings or bunkers. Perhaps not for SWAT or other teams that need speed & mobility for literal storming, but is there no place for a slower, better protected unit that can actually fight through taking hits?
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Also, I heard that IED's have killed and injured (dismembered, really) more troops in the recent wars than all the other sources combined.
Could better armor not help reduce the risk (especially against secondary through quaternary blast injuries) of IED's, or is it because of them that more complete armor is negligible? To my understanding, the amount of armoring you need to defend against primary blast injuries is absolutely absurd (see: bomb suits), so I assume anything less than that may be useless against IEDs.
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>>31965486
Body armor doesn't do jack shit for overpressure. Your gooey insides get turned to soup no matter what. ever watch the opening scen of the Hurt Locker were the EOD tech's head exploded inside of his helmet? That shit actually happens senpai.
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>>31965486
Can't really reply too much cause I'm pulling an all-nighter, people have developed shoulder pads and some coverage for the limbs. Especially on vehicles with door gunners and the such, the armor tends to be heavier.
As for breaching operations, those usually occur on patrols and the such. Thus there isn't much time to get heavy armor on. Not to mention that limb armor would probably more of a interference unless you're going up against pistol rounds.
Which brand 1911 is closest to the original JMB design?
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>>31964427
Colt. You're never going to find anyone making the original style grip safety though.
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>>31964427
>Hi-power
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>>31964427
A series 70 colt
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I don't even know if there's enough NFA on /k/ to warrant a thread, but post them while Tax Stamps still matter.
I got my 9mm can on election night, of all nights.
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Dem completely unobstructed sights.
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Primary sidearm, paired with my primary rifle.
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Provide suggestions to President Trump reguarding guns 2016-11-10 23:17:04 Post No.31960748
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Provide suggestions to President Trump reguarding guns
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So Trump has an official .gov page, and he has a section for giving suggestions.
https://apply.ptt.gov/yourstory/
Time to spam this with suggestions to repeal import bans, repeal Hughes Amendment, repeal 922r/sporting clause ect. Get to it.
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>>31960748
i've already been spamming media groups already for repealing the Hughes Amendment.
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>>31960748
my nigga
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I did my part.
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/k/, I need a trustworthy store that can ship german ww2 uniforms world wide 2016-11-10 22:50:37 Post No.31960538
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/k/, I need a trustworthy store that can ship german ww2 uniforms world wide
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full set, including boots and accessories such as canteens, ammo cans and belts.
not original uniforms though, i'm not made of fucking money
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>>31960538
>i'm not made of fucking money
You cheap fuck, if you're going in go all the fucking way. That's what Brian Cranston showed me.
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>>>>leibstandarte uniforms appreciated
>>>>if not the regular cannonfodder uniform will do
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>>31960554
i have an authentic one (war relic, my grandpa brought it from italy) but i'm not an absolute loon to wear those for the purposes I intend
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So /k/ what's your verdict or thoughts on soldiers or a type of combat unit that's heavily armored and armed with "heavy" weaponry like LMGs?
Their purpose is/would be to provide vanguard protection, heavy squad fire and even room clearing.
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>>31956638
Rendered entirely impotent by explosives. Over pressure does not care how heavily armored you are.
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It doesn't happen for a reason
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>>31956638
Without mechanical assistance endurance takes a fucking nose dive with gear that heavy. expect 15-30 minutes of combat effectiveness at best.
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It's mindboggling to think how many french and germans died in ww1.
The amount of HATE someone would have to have to kill all those people.
Not even the Arab-Israeli sunni-shite wars of the 20th century were this bloody, and they HATED each other beyond imagination.
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>>31956376
I don't think its really hate I just think its underestimating machineguns and artillery.
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>>31956376
They all were professional solders and knew what was coming and what had to be done.
By the WW2 came around all nations were left to conscript and acquire anyone and everyone to fight for the country and thats where the real sadness begins.
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>>31956416
>solders
>soldiers*
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GOD EMPEROR WON EDITION
/MEG/ Military Enlistment General
OP template
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Before you ask a question, check the FAQ
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Which branch are you enlisting/enlisted/considering?
http://strawpoll.me/4671253
Ask questions, answer questions, bitch about Air Force recruiters. Just keep it contained to this general.
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made this new thread to post this because the old one is page 9 and past bump limit
TRUMP FUCKING WON
I was thinking about going to college, if I go to ROTC will I have a better chance of getting deployed in a combat MOS? I really want to get the fuck into basic and shoot some shit, go 11B, but I don't want to end up a welfare whore stuck in the barracks while rotc guys get to go kill sand niggers.
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>We tell you to lie and none of you do then come back here and say you wish you had lied.
Well I wasn't really a /k/ regular at the time and in any case I don't even think /meg/ was actually a thing. Other than that I do deserve it though, even my parents were telling me to lie and they didn't even want me joining in the first place.
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>>31952925
>I don't want to end up a welfare whore stuck in the barracks while rotc guys get to go kill sand niggers.
Are you mentally retarded? Why would you think ROTC cadet boot officers would see shit before an Infantryman. Rethink some things, including your life.
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$320 for my first gun.
No rust (except some very light spots on one of the magazines that I polished out), finish is nigh perfect, bore is good, all parts smoothly oiled.
Not to mention it's in .380, so no worries of 9x18 mak ever drying up.
Did I do good /k/?
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>.380
You fucked up.
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>>31975591
How so?
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>>31975591
>.380
Hardly ideal, but not terrible either.
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Hi /k/
considering all of the chimpouts and happenings all across the U.S how would you protect your vehicle from angry dindus and lefties from dragging you out of your ride and beating you up?
Or post armored vehicles whatever
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>>31975200
It's not armored, but it is the same as your image. The sight alone should dissuade the dindus from screwing with it. If that doesn't, then one of the M16A2s from the in-cab rack will.
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I was just on /pol/ and there was a thread about the upcoming Austrian election, and apparently this Hofer dude wants to make Austrians hazgunz. Thoughts?
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>>31974954
mite b cool
doubt it though as most euro's are pretty staunchly anti-gun
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>>31974954
Austrian here. We have concealed carry laws here - in theory at least. Only, for the last 2 decades even cops weren't given one without extreme justification. So what he's basically saying is that the ministry of the interior has to follow it's own laws again and not BS internal directives to "just not issue CCWs".
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>>31974954
You guys are fucked, all anyone has to do is say port Arthur and they clamp down the restrictions on guns again
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GOD DAMN IT /K/ I BOUGHT A RUSSIAN SKS FOR $550 BEFORE THE ELECTION
NOW TRUMP IS GONNA GET RID OF IMPORT BANS AND SKS PRICES ARE GONNA PLUMMET
FUCKFUCKFUCKFUUUUUUUUUUCK
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Sell it now then faggot.
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>panicbuying
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>>31973914
year 2000 i bought 3 sks's and a type 56 for $320. stay stupid OPfag.
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>The average age of a Vietnam KIA was 22
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>Soldiers in vietnam on average saw combat 240/365 days a year
>WW2 Pacific the average infantryman saw only 4 days in 4 YEARS of combat
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All for what?
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>It ain't me
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Hello /k/
What do you keep your guns in?
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>>31973516
My boat in the bottom of the sea, after the accident.
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>>31973516
Non-handguns go in safes, handguns go in end tables.
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That picture is really depressing. That poor, lonely, rifle.
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I want some /k/ related quotes laser engraved on each of my AK mags because fuck it.
Inspire the fight with some good ol' war & general /k/ related quotes or some other autistic shit to have engraved.
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Govt get out REEEEEEEEE
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>>31973480
I will pay extra for image engraving for this.
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Boots Boots Boots