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So I'm in a pretty odd place in life. I haven't had a girlfriend since I was 16 and I'll be turning 25 next month. I'm also transferring from a community college to large university next week. I feel that if I don't start dating soon I never will. But it's been so long and there's so many skills I'm lacking, how to flirt, how to know if someone is flirting with me, etc. Plus I feel like I'll be too old for most of the girls around me that I should I just give up and wait until after school...
Any advice? Maybe I should try online dating sites/apps?
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impossible. you are fucked.
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What you need the most is more experience. With practice things will improve. People talk bad about PUA stuff, but if you don't take it too seriously there's plenty of good suggestions about where to go and how to open a girl. The rest will come with practice. Torrent PUA material don't give your email or money to anyone online.
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>>18667661
Yeah, that's where all the evidence points

>>18667677
I'm not sure. I don't know much about PUA stuff, but it seems too insincere. I want a relationship, not just someone to fuck. And if that were the case I would just lie about my age (I have a serious baby face).

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I want to figure out the ballpark of my attractiveness. I'm not really interested in /soc/ threads because I think there's both bias and fakes on there anyway. I'll detail some interactions to give you an idea of what I may be at.
>One friend I hang out with
>Says I'm attractive without me asking his opinion
>Says I look like Jim Morrison
>I think he's better looking than me but I get more play from women and he barely gets any at all
>Hanging out with two cute girls many years ago
>"I'm not that good looking..."
>Girl 1: "You're cute, we wouldn't hang out with you if you weren't cute teehee" earnestly
>Girl 2: yeah
>Hanging out with girl
>Basically says a ton of girls want to fuck me in her social circle
>including herself
>Have been called sexy, hot, handsome, compared to Robert Pattinson (only after high school)
>Been told I look like a bad boy
>I don't think I heard I'm cute basically at all through school, except for gfs.
>Realizing I got quite a bit of female attention in High School
>Another friend says I "got all the girls" in High School
>Seeing a girl who says I'm hot and says all her friends think I'm good looking and she gets jealous
>Says I could do better than her
>Seeing slightly slightly chubby girl with pretty face in High school
>One of my acquaintances talking when we're shooting the shit
>"Bro, come on anon, you can do better than that..."
>treated pretty well throughout high school with many friends
>/soc/ ratings generally between 5-6, one of the few I considered attractive said 7, and another said I could be a 7 if I got a haircut and tanned
>Feel like an 7 on good days and a 4 on bad ones
>Find myself jealous of quite a few others looks
>Felt like one of the ugliest out of my friend group
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>>18667605
if thats you in the picture you ugly af
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>>18667616
see thread subject
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It seems like you've provided the the answers you're looking for yourself.
Surely you didn't come here to boast?

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All I ever wanted was a girl that I could love and be proud of, and start a family with.

I started wanting this when I was like.. 11. Essentially, every move in life I've ever made was to this end. School, job, how hard I try in regard to everything... nearly every endeavor was to be as best a "catch" as I could be and prepare for this future family.

I have concluded this is not in the cards for me. There is something critically wrong with me... women I am interested in (smart, attractive) are just not buying what I'm selling. They just want none of it. Maybe its my looks, maybe my personality, I dont know and its really beside the point.

I should mention that I know I could just hook me a fatty and be done with it, but I dont want to look at one and I dont agree with that lifestyle or level of laziness and... its broader than just a shallowness, I just wont be able to stop wishing I had something better. I'm very fit, I'm not lazy and I feel like I have enough self value to warrant a quality partner.

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What do I do? What does a guy who has been working towards a singular goal nearly his entire life do when he finally has to accept this goal is unattainable?
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Is there a drug I can get hooked on that would block me wanting this? Would lobbing off my balls be worth the trouble? I think about this 24/7/365 for fucking years, decades even. I can't stand to be worried about this anymore, I want to be freed from this obsession.

I feel like its as deeply-ingrained a human trait as there ever was, but still there are guys out there that just never think about women (or at least, not being with one longterm) so I have some hope that maybe I can find that mental space.

I'm so drained from worrying about this and I cant stand to get rejected by another girl that seemingly should be a good match. I cant fuckin do this anymore, I'm dying.

>tl;dr How do I enter a mental state of not wanting or wasting energy concerning myself with a partner/wife/gf whatever?
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How old are you OP?
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>>18667623
32 now.
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>>18667574
>>18667658
Kind of feel you though I'm a decade younger, I came to believe that the only solution would be to chemicaly castrate yourself, just getting rid of that instinct, haven't come to it yet cause I still hope... yeah...

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Should I try and get a hotter girl?

Im socially awkward, but I look decent. I've been with my girl for almost 2 years. She is heavy, and has a few mental issues (anxiety), but she does understand me and we have not really had drama in our rs so far. Her family also treats me as one of their own and has helped me out a ton.

The problem is I can't help but want a hotter woman. I cant stop checking them out and wanting to fuck them. I dont know where to go from here.
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If you think like this you should break up with her, I wouldn't want to be with somebody who didn't feel sexually fulfilled by me. And to learn that was the case after being with them unaware for a long time would suck even more
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>>18667552
>Should I try
if you're questioning it now, you WILL regret it later.

Honestly the best course of action, for both of you, would be to break up. But for god's sake do not tell her that its because you want a hotter girlfriend. That'll destroy her and probaby ruin her chances for romance in the future. Since she's your gf you'll have to figure out the best way to do it.

For god's sake, don't cheat on her either.
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>>18667559
>>18667566

I live with her though, and honestly if it wasn't for her being fat I would marry her this second. I know it sounds shallow, but its how I feel.

Maybe there is a chance she will lose weight in the future?

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I really don't want to have sex with my girlfriend.
I actually am not sure if I want to have sex, at all, whatsoever.
What do?
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I'll have sex with your girlfriend for you, anon!
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>>18667499
Does your girlfriend need sex?
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>>18667533
yeah she complains we never have it
I honestly just don't want to do it, always wonder if something is wrong with me

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If you have low self esteem, how do you differentiate between changing your character for the better and expecting yourself to be things that you're not?

I'm obsessed with the idea of self-improvement because I'm not who I want to be. But I think I sometimes pressure myself to behave in ways that aren't true to myself, even the idealised version of myself I'm trying to become, because through insecurity I subconsciously buy into the bullshit idea that you can't be confident and strong without being a Chad archetype.

yes I'm phone posting but I'm laying in bed thinking about shit and if that isn't something /adv/ can get behind I don't know what is
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>>18667427
bump same
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>>18667427
i just behave according to my mood, who ever gets it depends on my mood. its so much easier that way.
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You need to find you're identity OP.
Check out real social dynamics on youtube. It's mostly about pick up but I've learned some valuable life lessons from the group. The day you stop comparing yourself to people is the day you stop suffering.

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Have any of you suffered from binge eating?
If you broke free from it how did you do it?
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>>18667420
Limit your binge eating to a set time once a day and pretend you're doing intermittent fasting.
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I have an eating disorder.
I deal with it by drinking water to make myself feel full.
If you start exercising, it will help a lot too because you will start to consider everything you put into your body and how it affects you.
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>>18667420
You will binge eat by having a thought and following it through, just cut it off, or better yet relax... When you're relaxed, you don't feel like doing anything, otherwise you just have to feel the torture of wanting food and denying it to yourself.

Just my opinion, I don't know for sure.

First time trying this so I am going to give this a shot.

7 years ago was one of the happiest days of my life. I found someone who I felt like was my soulmate. I gave devoted my life into taking care of this person and making sure that she was happy as much as possible. Our goal in life was to have finish school, decent careers, move in together, get married, and have children. I made sure to work my ass off to make this dream come into fruition.

We weren't the best couple and far from perfect, but we were happy hence why we were together for so long. It wasn't until the 7th year my world came crumbling down.

On the 6th year, my sister's wedding took place and my ex-girlfriend was chosen to be a bridesmaid. My family felt close to her and so did she so we were blessed to have her be apart of my sister's special day. Around this time I felt I was ready to propose to her. So my plan was to propose at my sister's wedding reception.

A few weeks before the wedding, my ex-girlfriend goes mysteriously quiet. Not only quiet, but extremely distant. Barely any text message replies and no phone calls. Weeks go by and I am concerned and ask her whats going on because I feel like she's acting weird.

April 4th, 2016, she finally calls me and tells me to meet her at the mall. I know at that point in my gut that it was over or at least suspected it. Sure enough, I walk into the mall and we sit down and talk. She tells me that she loves me but is no longer in love with me anymore. I am in complete silence and shock. She asks me what were going to do about the wedding and I didn't even respond. I felt she was hiding something whenever I would ask what the hell happened. She gave me bullshit excuses like school was too much for her and she needed to focus on that and her parents. I didn't know what to believe and still had my suspicions. She was dead set on not wanting to be together anymore so I let her go. She wanted a hug and refused. I offered her a handshake and walked off
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I am heartbroken obviously at what had transpired but also was also worried about my sisters wedding being ruined such last minute. Dealing with both was truly challenging. We could the wedding squared away and I did not hear from my ex for a month. April 2016 was one of the worst months of my life. Everyday was a struggle and I felt so lost.

One day, in May 2016, I was cleaning my room and found shoes she had left in my room. I called her cousin to pick up the phone and asked her to pick them up so she can give it to my ex. She tells me that my ex had been trying to get a hold of me for months but I had changed my phone number. She was contemplating suicide and that she was trying to work things out with me but I was unavailable.

I call her, and I tell her much I've been hurt for the last month. She apologizes but finally forks up the truth behind her break up: She started talking to some other guy. She had been with me since she was 19 years and she is now 26. She had to see if she can be with someone else other than me which was her excuse for leaving. It was all a big bowl of bullshit and I distrusted her almost immediately.

Unfortunately for me, I loved her so much, I decided to take her back. I couldn't feel but feel attached to this woman after all we been through and all that I had done. So I told her she had to work in order to earn the trust back. 2016 until early 2017 was all her working on trust and I was beginning to be happy again and trying my best to trust her. She had promised me that she would be with me forever, have my children, and marry me.
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Early 2017 I started to feel that the trust was back in our relationship and that I had learned to move on and forgive. The ball was set in motion for me to propose to her again as she gave me hints with her planner. She drew a ring on our anniversary date implementing that she hoped we would get engaged.

Valentines Day of 2017 me, her, and another couple whose mutual friends go to an expensive Brazilian steakhouse. We eat and have a great time. She spends the night and gives me this letter expressing her love for me and how she wants to continue spending more experiences for the rest of her life with me. The letter meant so much to me and I said to myself I was ready to marry this woman. She leaves and that was literally the last time I had ever seen her.

A month goes by, and she goes quiet and distant again very familiarly. I get concerned but at the time she was dealing with a lot of school stuff so I let it slide.

March 4th 2017, I enter the ER because I freak out over losing hearing on my right ear. I have a panic attack. I call my ex and tell her where I am at. I soon realize that she never showed up and continued to be distant. This made me furious.

I called her the next day and asked wth was going on. I asked her why she was doing what she did last year again and she had no answer for me. I asked "do I even have a girlfriend still?" and she replied with "I dont know."

I lost it. I ended it with her right there. I felt forced.
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The next day I call her, and told her how forced I was to do it. I never wanted to leave her and that I wanted to work things out. She fed me the same bullshit she said last year. "I love you but I am not in love with you anymore." In a matter of a month you change your feelings?

She also expresses to me that she has an internship coming up and that she needed to focus on that for school. And also something going on with her Dad which she never disclosed or talked about with me. She said she could not be with me anymore, and that maybe down the line we can be together again. and when those words were uttered I went off the deep end. I wanted to kill myself hearing those words. She calls the cops and told her that my heart belonged to her. All she can tell me was "I'll never forget how strong we made me and how you made me feel." I told her numerous times to say goodbye to me but she refused. She hung up the phone and I havent heard from her since March 16th 2017.

The aftermath of the break up lead me to the cops taking me away and into psychiatric care. I was diagnosed with clinical depression. I took the break up hard, a break up I never wanted. The last 6 months have been brutal torture for me. I've been trying to find a reason to hang on but to no avail. These last 6 months Ive had numerous anxiety attacks and been in the ER a total of 4 times. I was diagnosed with an anxiety disorder and currently on medication.

The hardest week was this past week. I realized how much I truly miss and love my ex and that I was in denial for 6 months out of anger.

I reached out to her cousin who was the original matchmaker in our relationship existing. She told me that my ex still cared for me, but talking to her is not the right time. Shes not sure when well talk or even if well get back together.

I want to gift therapy sessions to someone but idk how to go about it.

Basically, my ex suffers from depression, and she left me when she fell back into deep depression.
I have accepted the breakup and not looking to get back together, but i still really want to help her be happy and improve her life.

I think the best thing for her would be to go through therapy, which she only did when she was hospitalized in the past.
I would like to send money to her family (probably her brother) and ask them to use it to pay for her therapy and not tell her it was me who paid for it.
I'm thinking of sending something like 1 or 2 thousands.

Is this crazy? I know it may sound crazy but i really want to help her out cause i know she's has serious things to deal with, and i want her to find happiness in life. I have more money than i need.
Is there any better way I could go about this? Maybe instead of wiring the money to her brother I can contact some local psychologists and ask to pay for some kind of "voucher" and they can mail it to her house anonymously?

Please help me to figure out the best way to go about this.
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Anyone?
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>>18667373
She's your ex. Her well-being is no longer your responsibility, nor should it be your concern. There's lots of people suffering in the world, and now she's one of those "other people."

Anonymously gifted therapy sessions (if that's even a thing) are a little tacky and presumptuous at best, and outright insulting at worst. Plus, even if she doesn't know who gave them to her, YOU do, and it sustains an emotional connection you should no longer have. Spend it on yourself OP
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>>18667373
therapy is $15 an hour, theyre either going to pocket it or tell you what the fuck

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Been trying to flirt with this girl, ttied to compliment her talent but she wouldn't take it.

Friendly or flirty?
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>>18667366
Very hard to tell without more context
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Tell us more
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>>18667430
Literally all the context.

I was talking to her about her band's performance. She kept saying she was terrible when she was actually amazing.

She kept avoiding the compliment so i pointed it out that she was avoiding, she sent that.

Shes fairly anxious and all that mental stuff.

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I'm about to go rock climbing w/ acquaintances, I have absolutely no experience in this whatsoever?

How/what should I prepare for?
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Don't get scared
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>>18667325
Most climbing gyms will have a range of walls of varying difficulty. Start with the easiest one and progress as your skill/confidence develops. Having the various gear like shoes and chalk helps but as a beginner you don't need to spend money on that stuff. If you aren't sure about some safety aspect just ask.

Not much to it senpai.
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>>18667325
don't be afraid to leap for an extra hand hold, you're safe as long as the person belaying you is paying attention. worst that can happen is that you leap and miss, or your hand slips off, and you go back to where you were on the wall.

I feel like I have grown to be a intensely bitter person secretly. I am incredibly bothered by the fact that I am missing out on one of the more important human experiences. Intimacy or love or whatever. I see people my age(27) having babies and getting married and shit.

It all looks and sounds like total dog shit aids but I have to look on and smile when another friend says they are getting married or having a baby. At the same time, I kind of would want to experience that but fate just hasn't given me opportunities in that department of life. I have already come to realize that dating is a shit fest of chance and luck. Your "charm" doesn't matter. Nothing but meeting the right person at the right time matters. Its dog shit.

I guess I am mostly just bothered because those particular feelings have worn down for me. I can't imagine myself loving anyone at this point. I can't imagine having a kid and unconditionally loving it.

Is this what this world does to people like me? Grinds you down until you feel like you are lacking a fundamental human component? I often wonder if I can even call myself a human anymore. One feeling I am tortured by is obsession. I become infatuated with women and want to know EVERYTHING about them. Its horrible.

I often wonder how I got this way and I can never come to a conclusion. This world does strange things to people. Thinking back to my early years, I felt very normal. Now, I feel completely separate and worn down. Small things bother me and large things don't bother me. For example, when a friend told me he was getting married. I actually felt revulsion. Next day, I was told a older relative passed away, I didn't cry or anything.

Help.
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Why don't you have a girlfriend?
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>>18667348

Honestly, the severe like of opportunities. It is so hard to find women around my age who don't have kids and aren't like obese or unhealthy. I don't want to date any woman who isn't 5 years within my age and I am 27. Is that too strict of a requirement?

I also don't beleive I would be able to keep a woman interested. I am a boring guy by others standards. The perfect day to me would be laying in bed on a rainy day without having work the next day and just relax.

It seems most people freak out if they have to stay at home for a day. Not me though. Laying in bed is one of my favorite past times. That sounds horrible doesn't it?
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>>18667376
It's best to find someone with similar interests and habits in the internet. Me and my bf like going to sleep late, getting up in the afternoon, lazy weekends, we don't care much about mess in our rooms. We met online. Also, SESH.

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Feeling nauseous after unrequited love.
This shit's been going on for a while and now that there's no hope for any romantic future with her I've been feeling like I'm on the verge of puking all day erryday. We had our talk last week and I'm not feeling any better. I've literally never been this love sick. Pls halp
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I know that feel man. I don't have the answers for you I'm sorry. I still feel the pain each and every day. I wonder if I'll every feel for someone else how I feel for her. Praying helps, and distracting myself. But I don't know if I'll ever get over it. At the very least, I'm here with you anon.
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>>18667370
Thanks brah. It doesn't help that she didn't even believe me when I said I love her but knew how miserable I felt because of her.
I'm tired of being such a loser in love. I think I'll stick to awkward one night stands and disappointing sex. Not sure if I can take this another time any time soon
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In my experience hookups don't help. They are empty and lacking not only emotion, but a connections as well. It's unfulfilling and not a healthy coping mechanism. But then again, what do I know. I'm in a painful situation too...just my two cents on that.

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/adv/, I need some armchair psychology dropped on me.

I'm an alcoholic. It's gotten to a point where I'm tracking the amount of vodka I'm taking in just so I know what I ingested upon awaking from my blackout slumber. One thing I've begun taking notice of is that all of my chores are done, too.

I'll drink so much that I won't remember much except blurry excerpts, yet find that I've taken care of the important things like cleaning, laundry, etc.

Why am I more responsible under heavy influence of alcohol, and how do I get sober me to be like drunk me, sans alcohol?

Apologies if this is missing letters. I can assure you it's not drunkenness. I'm on an old laptop and the "T, U, and P" keys are fucked. I am drunk as fuck right now. 8 shots of vodka.
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When you drink, your subconscious takes over. You change from thinking with your left part of your brain to your right part which steers intuition. Be careful man, i was healthy, young and had good genes, and suddenly my heart messed up and i got artial fibrillations. I almost got a stroke at the age of 23. Now i can't drink anymore and it's liberating as fuck.
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>>18667346
Honestly, I stopped reading after left brain right brain bullshit. That isn't real.
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I wasn't trying to be a dick by writing off what you said. I just don't believe in that. Still drunk as fuck, though. I need psychological platitudes.

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So I dated a girl for one month. She was diagnosed with oral herpes. We broke up already. What are the chances I got oral herpes from just kissing? I always read a 4% chance but not sure if that's true. She never had any cold sores when we kissed either so yeah.
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>>18667225
I don't think there's much chance u got it. Who cares tho, doesn't like everyone get oral herpes sooner or later?
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you probably already had it
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afaik it's only contagious should you make skin-contact when the infected person has an outbreak. If she didn't have an outbreak when you kissed her, you're likely fine.

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