Anyone use one of these? Are they any good? I was thinking about buying one.
>>30973222
>UTAS XTR 12
A thousand dollar Turkish AR style shotgun. No, avoid it. Turkish firearms are hit and miss(especially UTAS), I wouldn't bet a grand on it. And AR style shotguns don't really have solid reputation yet.
>>30973374
This guy knows nothing about that specific model
>>30973222
And I don't know anything either, but it looks very cool
>>30973397
Youre right, I don't. I don't trust Turkish crap and I based my opinion on that.
what does /k/ think of the Canik TP9 series?
Never shot one, but I've heard nothing but good things about them. Seems like a great gun for that price.
Good. The original tp9 is meh but the tp9sa is God-tier.
They need to make a compact version of the tp9sa already for muh concealed carry.
>>30973359
>>30973359
The SA model has a PPQ-esque trigger which is nice, I heard they can take modified beretta 92 magazines. I'm tempted to attempt a grip chop and see if I can't get 92 compact magazines to work with it and have my own compact TP9
What's this board opinion on the AK47?
why is so popular?
they're alright
Their a shitty forced meme
>>30973099
it werks gud.
Its the apple of firearms.
Its honestly kind of overpriced for what you're getting, unless you get a deal, there is way better stuff for the same price. People get it because, "it just works." Same fucking reason retards get iphones.
Find a flaw.
>>30973006
>high as fuck rear sight
That's one. Should I go on?
>>30973006
was the bayonet cut? how would it have worked
>>30973006
How can i find a flaw without a protip?
Let's pretend Britain was still responsible for the defence of Canada, Australia, Hong Kong, Singapore and New Zealand.
This would be a $6.5 trillion economy, and assuming the military gets 4% of GDP, a $260 billion budget.
What would the RN look like? How many carriers would be needed? What aircraft would they operate?
Would Britain be able to defend all of its clay from aggressors? Would they still have a warm relationship with the US? Or is this a 3 pole world (US, China, UK)?
Presumably they'd try to get a defense pact going with the US where the US protects British clay in exchange for the UK joining in on all their wars.
Presumably the RN would closely resemble the USN, but with half to a third as many ships.
And you really can't into global empire without strategic bombing and strategic airlift. They could piggyback off of the existing AFB infrastructure that the US has.
>>30972589
>And you really can't into global empire without strategic bombing and strategic airlift. They could piggyback off of the existing AFB infrastructure that the US has.
Or more likely, it would increase the scale and scope of what it currently has on its own.
>>30972565
All of those countries are all ready responsible for defending themselves with less that 2% of gdp, let alone 4%. Once you factor in bulk buy discounts we are talking about a massive increase in expenditure here. Whilst Britain is by itself the top in europe this would take them 2nd internationally very quickly. (Which for power projection ir is arguable that it already is).
It probably would change little about how the world works. The anglo sphere already sticks together where it counts bur it would mean more war for Canada & Australia etc.
The empire never really had a unified millitary. The colonies would raise and equip own forces before sending formed units to fight under british generals. (Though in later periods there would be nothing unusual of a colonial officer comanding british troop).
alright /k/ i turned 18 3 days ago, im off to get my first gun, now since i am a manlet (5'6") and i have slender hands, was thinking my first gun should be a Derringer. (BTW i am in snake country) is this the first gun i should have?
>>30972476
I'm assuming through private sale right?
>>30972476
Just get a Glock.
>>30972476
If anyone hasn't said it yet, you have to be 21 to purchase a handgun from an FFL.
However through an apathetic private seller or a guardian gifting it to you, you could get one.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Eldest_Son
I don't see the point of using ammunition sabotage against extremists if the extremists value the ammo more than the humans using it. Even if the Extremists lose a few thousand guys, they still get a few more shots out of this tactic used by the United States, which is really all they care about.
>>30972210
Psyops.
>can't trust weapons
>can't trust supplies
>can't trust leaders
>fuck it, let's go home.
>>30972210
According to a forum post on ye olde Akfiles, vietnam wanted to import a bunch of old surplus 7.62x39 to the US in the 70s or 80s and the ATF didn't allow it because of fear there would still be a salted round here and there and kill someone who shot it. Since it basically blows the receiver up in your face.
>>30972409
Why would anyone tell them that their gun is sabotaged? Seems stupid.
>tfw society and nature will never test my survival skills
>tfw will never have to struggle to survive, to live
>tfw SHTF will never happen
>>30972138
>iktfb
Join the Military
>>30972138
>Take time off work
>Go innawoods for a few weeks with only what you can carry.
There you have it.
The "Classic Firearms" centerfold is the Winchester gallery rifle. Enjoy. I'll post a .zip to of all the ones I have to a mega shortly.
>>30972136
81 more of these here:
https://mega.nz/#!AMNl0TTb!w-O7JfL6c7X_85H9YQuNwbBKGa2jcvl0qc37d6j4ytI
I can post individual ones too if you are interested. Just trying to keep thread alive for anybody interested...
Best AK for the money?
I want the most reliable and well made AK on the market.
>>30987659
A few years ago I would have said an Arsenal. However over the past year or so I have ordered 7 for customers of mine (own a small gun store) and 6 of the 7 had canted sights. they were all VERY slight, but its still a 900 rifle. I got a SLR104UR when they were released and its in great shape, no cants or anything. Arsenal's milled line still seems to be doing fine, ive only had one of them in the past year but it was in good shape
>>30987659
Definitely Definitive Arms. Good luck finding one though.
>>30987695
That's a shame, I was sure they were top dog. How about DDI or IO?
Are magpul slings worth the price?
>>30972091
maybe
No.
Go buy some buckles and one inch webbing at the hardware store, make yourself a sling for $10.
>>30972091
They're good, but extremely overpriced
So, what's the story with Maks today?
1. Did Baikal discontinue making new Maks?
2. How are 9x18 prices compared to 9x19?
3. Is the mag release really a big problem?
4. Where to get, how much to pay?
Also, dickgrips general.
>>30972063
1. No idea, but probably. Maks are pretty old designs.
2. You can buy decent boxes of 9x18 for 14-15 bucks. They aren't substantially cheaper than getting ammo for 9x19. In fact, since 9x18 is far less common and you will likely have to buy online and pay for shipping, you better buy in bulk
3. No, as long as you practice with your weapon and know how to use it. People who complain about it have a training problem, the mag release is not the issue
4. jgsales.com is selling bulgarian maks in excellent condition for 300. Pretty good deal, worth picking one up if you really want a mak.
I like maks. They're pretty decent guns, and they're cheap. I like carrying one during summer because it's small, even if it is a little heavy. I figure if I ever have to use it and the police end up taking it and screwing me out of a gun, at least it won't be hard or expensive to replace.
1. They no longer import them
2. Not that great
3.Not a big issue on a range gun, if I were to carry it it'd concern me a bit
4. http://www.jgsales.com/bulgarian-makarov-semi-auto-pistol,-9x18,-red-star-grips,-holster,-excellent-condition,-used.-p-64017.html these are like new
>>30973008
>>30973067
Thanks guys.
Is .38spl good enough for personal/ home protection??
>>30987018
>Is .38spl good enough for personal/ home protection??
Yes.
>Modelo
Good.
>No Chicharones
Bad.
>>30987018
If it's all the gun you have, it's better than no gun at all.
If you want a home defense gun, get a shotgun or a rifle. Handguns suck at killing people.
If you're going to CC, a .38 will do, just make sure you get a good load that meets FBI qualifications for penetration, has good expansion and hope that you have the foresight not to get into a situation where you might have to use it.
>picrelated, the Donald carries a .38 snub nose.
>>30987018
>>30987043
modelo tastes like two day old bath water, wtf dude
Does /k/ have any guns from popular movies?
>>30972038
One of these days I'm gonna find a BHP with a fucked finish and get that bitch hard chromed.
This:
>>30972038
I want this one
any good gorwn up films
where big boy officers do shit
films like the pentegan wars
ps no shit like few good men
>>30971761
thanks doc
>>30971761
I really, really, really, like this image.
>>30971761
thanks doc