The UK as a superpower

Presumably they'd try to get a defense pact going with the US where the US protects British clay in exchange for the UK joining in on all their wars.

Presumably the RN would closely resemble the USN, but with half to a third as many ships.

And you really can't into global empire without strategic bombing and strategic airlift. They could piggyback off of the existing AFB infrastructure that the US has.

>>30972589
>And you really can't into global empire without strategic bombing and strategic airlift. They could piggyback off of the existing AFB infrastructure that the US has.


Or more likely, it would increase the scale and scope of what it currently has on its own.

>>30972565
All of those countries are all ready responsible for defending themselves with less that 2% of gdp, let alone 4%. Once you factor in bulk buy discounts we are talking about a massive increase in expenditure here. Whilst Britain is by itself the top in europe this would take them 2nd internationally very quickly. (Which for power projection ir is arguable that it already is).

It probably would change little about how the world works. The anglo sphere already sticks together where it counts bur it would mean more war for Canada & Australia etc.

The empire never really had a unified millitary. The colonies would raise and equip own forces before sending formed units to fight under british generals. (Though in later periods there would be nothing unusual of a colonial officer comanding british troop).

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>>30972565

The US has a $600b budget (roughly, it's a little less) so what we're looking at is something just a shade under 50%, maybe 40% in scale of the US.

In terms of carrier groups, a direct numerical element of that would suggest 4-5 carrier groups, likely set on a Catobar QE design. Astute numbers would likely rise to 20, Vanguards would have gone to around 6. Perhaps with a BMT designed SSK for some overseas coastal defence.

Escorts would likely rise to around 40 Type 26 and Type 45. Amphibious warfare would gain new ships too, likely those LHDs that BAE designed but never got selected. The escorts would have been fully realised with all their options. (Such as the extra VLS on Daring)

With such a budget, the British 5th generation fighter (Codenamed "Replica") would likely have been undertaken and developed instead of F-35. How the carriers would operate then is unsure, but traditionally, there has always been at least a design for maritime, so it'd likely have been for them too. A strategic bomber based on Rolls-Royce engines, a modern variant of the Olympus would work fantastically, giving them a high supercruise strategic bomber by utilising modernised Concorde technology.

More British centric tech would be developed and used overall. The Army used to have Alvis designed transporters, tankers and trucks. These are now German and US built from MAN and Oshkosh. They would likely have remained British. The ALARM missile would still be in operation. BAE Fury would have been selected instead of Reapers. Nimrod MRA4 might even have been brute forced through on a bigger budget. (But it had problems not even just money wise) There was a STOVL Strategic Airlifter they once planned (Seriously!) which maybe could have been done instead of C-17.

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>>30972565
What's wrong with South Africa?

Why include Singapore and not India or Palestine / Israel?

If the empire still existed it would be like the US X5 (probably more since the US would either do what it was told or re integrated less monarchy)

It's a pretty dumb hypothetical though, its just going to be series of posts agreeing that it would dominate, criticising the premise and going off on a tangent about some technicallity.

>>30972565
>Let's pretend Britain was still responsible for the defence of Canada, Australia, Hong Kong, Singapore and New Zealand.
War with the USA. There can only be one Global Naval Hegemon.

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>>30974952

Ajax would have been a homegrown vehicle for certain. With the bigger budget it would have gained the 120mm and Brimstone overwatch versions. Challenger would have been ferociously upgraded with the full 2E and smoothbore suite, with a new tank set to design.

The Type 22 would have been replaced with a proper "moderate" frigate down from the high end Type 26. Something around 4,000 tons, perhaps like the Venator-110 design. A solid 10-20 of them to help industry in the other nations on top of the Type 26's longer build time would help a lot.

Logistics ships would be bought in much larger numbers for certain. Army numbers would climb a significant degree, probably 250,000 between the nations. They would have a longer ranged SAM system, probably SAMP/T. M777 would have been picked up with its neat Portee system, given Canada uses it in reality. But now in much larger numbers.

Instead of Ridgebacks based on US vehicles, the Aussie Bushmaster would have formed a much larger part of the fleet, with likely hundreds if not a thousand created. Foxhound for high end and Hawkei for cheaper end would be a strong combination. Singapore's Warthog (Bronco) would more properly have replaced the Viking to give them industrial amounts, likely a solid 300 of them.

Taranis would be removed from the French/UK deal and become an independant project for certain. With those numbers, the UK could develop its own nuclear missiles away from Trident for certain. A combined satellite network with those countries to link the Empire would also be in need.

Airborne refuelling would go from 14 to around 30, most likely, with another set of AWACs added to bring it to 10. Airborne light vehicle capability would have not been dropped as too niche now that the money would exist for it, so things like the LIMAWs rocket system would be back, along with a smaller vehicle likely based on the TRACER program, likely a 15-20 ton AFV of varying forms, like a big version of CVRT.

>>30974992
>Anglosphere
>Killing each other
>Post WWI + II

Nah, brah. We tight, yo.

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>>30975102

Heavy Mortars would be brought back in as well alongside the 155mm's. Fire Shadow likely would have taken off more properly. Typhoon production would be made British only, given they are the only involved country capable of making them independantly, just only farming it out to cut expenses, and the other countries could just suck it up or buy British. It would be a fully British aircraft now. They'd have the money to force it.

Lastly, I think what we'd eventually see is heavier kit in each of the main countries or their forward bases as prepositioned. Then the expeditionary and airborne naval and air assets would be focused around light to medium rapid deployment to support and supplement the heavy arms already in defensive location, with a small heavy subset ready for foreign deployment ahead of a larger logistics effort being garnered. Likely the UK would have three carrier groups, while Canada and Australia would have one each based to them. Singapore, HK and New Zealand can have LHDs.

With simple and easy to make escorts like Venator ships (pictured) to handle the sea-ways now the budget is free to have high end AND constabulary ships, allies like the US would have the pressure eased a little. If this could be held diplomatically between the US and the British, then it would be a fucking golden age of security and stability worldwide, at the very least on the high seas, with so many ships available to flow around and protect things.

With all that, there's not a threat in the world short of an unthinkable war with the US that would be able to assail the UK or its territories.

It actually is a lot of interesting thought to imagine if the UK still had Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Singapore, Hong Kong, South Africa and Ireland.

Just thinking of all the integrated weapons and vehicles between global and local builds for needs and commonality is amazing.

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If Nigel gets his empire back, I want mine too.

>>30975382

>British handling South and Eastern Africa
>French handling East and Central Africa in their own empire

Holy fuck this would solve so many problems.