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How would history have developed differently if Romania and Hungary would have become slavic, linguistically speaking?
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>>1832040
Not that much. The most slavs hate each other despite speacking a related language.
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>>1832040

Not much. Language is not a barrier to cultural diffusion and culture of, let's say, Hungarians is very similar to that of Czechs or Slovaks.

Slavic languages aren't mutually intelligible by the way and Slavs have very little in common at this point aside from distantly related languages and some remnants of common traits in folk culture. Panslavism was just a meme of edgelords from bourgeois houses that evaporated the very moment said edgelords learnt what a shithole Russia is.
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>>1832044
>>1832047
Good posts.

Also, Western Slavs very distant with Russkies and Yugoslavs.

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What's THIS guy's endgame???
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>>1831959
>implying anyone on /his/ knows him
You're mostly talking to 15 - 20 years old here who think Deadliest Warrior is the greatest show on earth.
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>>1832092
If /his/ knows Zizek, there's a slight possibility they might have read THIS guy. I'll probably ask /lit/ in a couple of hours.
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>>1831959
man, the amazing atheist hasn't aged well

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How did this handsome fucker kill so many in so little time ?
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>>1831845
I ask that every time I play dota
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>>1831845
Cooking the books. It's not that there was a full ballistic matching for every fatality.
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>>1831845
Russians being incompetent.

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http://debateolavodugin.blogspot.com.br

"(...) the historic forces that today fight for power in the world arrange themselves into three projects of global dominance, which I will provisionally call the “Russian-Chinese,” the “Western” (sometimes mistakenly called “Anglo-American”) and the “Islamic” one.

Each of them has a well documented history, which shows their remote origins, the transformations they have gone through in the course of time and the present state of their implementation.

The agents that personify these projects today are respectively:

1. The ruling elite of Russia and China, especially the secret services of those two countries.

2. The Western finance elite, as represented especially in the Bilderberg Club, the Council on Foreign Relations and the Trilateral Commission.

3. The Muslim Brotherhood, the religious leaders of several Islamic countries and the some Muslim countries governments.

(...) Thus, for the first time in the history of the world, the three essential modalities of power – politico-military, economic and religious – find themselves personified in distinct supranational blocks, each of them with its own plans for world dominance and its peculiar mode of action. This does not mean that they do not act in all fronts, but only that their respective historical views and strategies are ultimately delimited by the modality of power they represent. It’s not far-fetched to say that the world today is the object of a dispute among the military, bankers and preachers"

This is some good read, anons.
I assure you will not waste your time.
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>>1831741
>br
Also the russia-chinese friendship meme
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>>1831761
Not an argument.
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>>1831741
>Islamic
>global dominance

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, no.

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Has a finer meme ever been produced?
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>>1831551
All German history and """"""""""culture""""""""""""
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Third Reich super science.
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>>1831551
Kaiser Wilhelm II

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What would be the geopolitical implications of Douglas Macarther being allowed to use nuclear weapons against the PRC during the Chinese offensive in Korea?
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>>1831509
>Plain of Jars

I read a book called "The Ravens" about CIA operations using Bronco observation planes in that area. Supposedly if you got shot down, your chances of survival were immensely low.
We weren't legally or officially allowed to be there. The information about our operations in north Laos for the Hmong were not released until 1998.
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>>1831509
Oh as for your question, probably not much. It'd take more nukes than the US had to even kill half of China.

Also, it'd be asking for the Soviets to intervene fully in Korea. Maybe spark a ground war in Europe.
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>>1831509
the USSR would probably openly join the war, possibly using their own nukes in tactical strikes on the UN or invading Europe to split the American forces

Where did he go wrong?
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>>1831503
Glasnost and becoming a Capitalist Roader.
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>>1831503
he broke down the wall and let all of the improvised soviets flee to the west.
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Has Poland ever done anything bad? Antisemitism doesn't count.
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They bullied Russia.
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Concentration Camps were located in Poland

I wonder who was behind the six gojillian
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>>1831471
They stole German bullets one at a time.

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http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/russia-says-it-never-invaded-poland-1939-18017
October 12, 2016

Russia Says It Never Invaded Poland in 1939

Did you know that Hitler invaded China in 1956? Or that America dropped the first atomic bomb on Paris in 1924?

You didn't? Well, that's because these are taradiddles. Historical events that never actually happened. Yet it is also a lie -- and a crime -- to state that the Soviet Union invaded Poland in 1939, according to a Russian court.

The history books -- you know, the ones that try to tell us that NASA really landed on the Moon -- also claim that Hitler and Stalin made a secret agreement in August 1939. Nazi troops seized western Poland, while the Red Army grabbed the eastern half.

Not true, says the Russian court which fined a blogger 200,000 rubles (US$3,089) for claiming otherwise. The Perm regional court convicted Vladimir Luzgin under a Russian law that forbids glorification of Nazism.

cont.
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>>1831454

Luzgin had posted a blog on Ukrainian nationalist leader Stepan Bandera and Ukrainian nationalist fighters who fought against (and sometimes collaborated with) the Nazis, while battling the Soviets, and, incidentally massacring Jews and Poles. Admittedly, by eulogizing Bandera (who was assassinated by the KGB in the 1950s), Luzgin wasn't likely to endear himself to a Russian court, or many other people for that matter.

However, what really got Luzgin in trouble was writing this passage:

“The communists and Germany jointly invaded Poland, sparking off the Second World War. That is, communism and Nazism closely collaborated, yet for some reason they blame Bandera who was in a German concentration camp for declaring Ukrainian independence”.

Luzgin was prosecuted under a law, signed by President Vladimir Putin in May 2014, that criminalizes "the denial of the facts" established at the Nuremberg war crimes trials, as well as the "dissemination of deliberately false information on the activities of the Soviet Union during the Second World War."

In other words, the Nuremberg tribunals never ruled that the Soviet Union had invaded Poland, and thus to claim there was an invasion is to defame Soviet actions during what Russians call the Great Patriotic War.

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>>1831456

Let's leave aside the fact that the Nuremberg trials focused on Nazi war crimes. Because the Soviet Union was on the winning side, it therefore participated as a member of the prosecution, even though some decried the irony of Stalin's men judging others for committing atrocities.

What's crucial is every history book I'm familiar with says that the Soviet Union really did invade Poland. Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union signed a non-aggression treaty in August 1939 in which each side pledged not to attack the other. A secret protocol to the Nazi-Soviet Pact divided Eastern Europe into spheres of influence, under which Germany and the Soviet Union divvied up Poland. Poland had not asked for Soviet troops on its territory; in fact, Polish opposition to the Red Army passing through Poland had scuppered any chance that the Soviet Union would come to Czechoslovakia's aid during the Munich crisis of 1938.

Nonetheless, after the German invasion on September 1, 1939, the Soviet government declared that Poland no longer existed as a nation and that such a vacuum threatened Soviet security. On September 17, the Red Army crossed the border into eastern Poland, annexing territory that the Soviets had long considered their own. Their feelings toward Poland would later be seen in the Katyn massacre of 1940, when the Soviet NKVD secret police murdered 22,000 Polish military officers, policemen and educated professionals. After years of claiming that the Nazis did it, in 2010 the Russian Duma voted to blame Stalin for the killings.

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>>1831459

Even when it comes to signing a treaty with a Nazi maniac who expressly swore to rid the world of "Jewish Bolshevism," one can argue that the Soviet Union was cynical but not irrational. After Britain and France had dithered for months in half-hearted negotiations to form an anti-Nazi alliance with the Soviet Union, it was obvious that they secretly hoped that the Germans and Soviets would kill each other and leave the West alone. So why shouldn't Stalin sign an agreement with Hitler to remain neutral while his Nazi and capitalist enemies annihilated each other, leaving the Red Army to eventually pick up the pieces?

Nor is it unprecedented for history to be criminalized. Germany banned sales of Mein Kampf until recently, and some form of law against Holocaust denial exists in 22 nations. Whether banning opinions on history, no matter how hideous or wrong the opinion, actually serves a purpose is another question. On the other hand, while to Americans this smacks of censorship, those people who suffered from fascism might understandably be sensitive to its depiction.

However, it would be one thing if today's Russian government acknowledged that the Soviet Union had illegally seized Polish territory, and then pointed out that the Soviet state no longer exists, and that Russia has moved on from Stalin's day. Yet by attempting to stamp out criticism of Soviet aggression, Russia is essentially announcing that it accepts responsibility for the historical legacy of the Soviet Union.

FIN

Is it true that under Tito workers in Yugoslavia actually enjoyed a large amount of independence and self-management? Or is this just a meme?
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Yes only problem is factory jobs were hard to come by and most people were rural peasants well into the 70s.
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Self management didn't really work, de facto only a few bureaucrats were really involved in the decision making process. In spite of the fact that officially the workers themselves were in charge, there were still numerous strikes in Yugoslavia.
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I would be very sceptical about every positive thing you hear about Tito on the internet

>I must unite 6 different nations and 3 different faiths under one flag

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I TRIED SO HARD
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MY FATHER TOOK ME TO THE CITY
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>No Iceland

Shit map, tbqh
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This just had me realise

The Ottomans were pretty much Byzantine 2.0

The even ruled most of the former Roman territory

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The caucasians are the descendants of the Gog and Magog. That is why they are evil. Look at the history of white men from then until now. The mass murders of Red Indians, enslaving blacks, invading and colonizing most of the world, bombing Hiroshima and Nagasaki, invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan, invading the Palestine and giving it to the Ashkenazi Jews as if their own, lies like 9/11, Al Qaeda, ISIS. We used to live peacefully before.

THEN CAME THE WHITE PEOPLE.

WE ARE ON TO YOU PEOPLE OF THE GOG AND MAGOG.

Non-whites you can look this up. The evidence are everywhere now. And it makes sense.

White people, YOUR ARGUMENTS ARE INVALID
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>>1831308
lolno white people were invented by yakub a black person

everything white people have done is actually black peoples fault
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>>1831308
Oh god, are you even familiar with Islamic history. The saudis didn't stop taking black people as slaves (women as sex slaves and the men were castrated and put to work, not just eunuchs).

Plus, didn't whites champion the abolishment of slavery? Aren't you nig nogs still taking each other as slaves in various african countries? Don't black folk kill each other at massive rates? You can't blame everything on whitey. Plus, why are asians and hispanics so successful?
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>>1831665
>hispanics so successful?

kek

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Why are murder rates in East Asia so low? And crime in general?
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Extremely strong families and respect for authority.

http://articles.latimes.com/2007/nov/09/world/fg-autopsy9

That and systematic under-reporting.
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>>1831297
Because corrupt government and police cover it up. Don't fall for the authoritarian meme.
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>>1831321
literally this

chinks and gooks have so much national pride they doctor their statistics just to prove it

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What are some good movies that portray the fucked up excess of the vietnam war? Asking here instead of /tv/ because I want historical movies not 'it aint me' genre shit
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>Paint It Black starts playing

Also Apocalypse Now
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Apocalypse Now is a great film but it´s also based on Joseph Conrad´s Heart of Darkness, that makes it an arty film more than an historical one
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Platoon is good. Especially if you want a movie to capture what it was really like the for average private. Though in recent times people starting shutting on it for some reason.

I think we're long overdue for a new crop of Vietnam movies. There's a lot of mysticism to the whole war that should be explored more often.

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>Psalm 110
>[1] The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.
>[4] The Lord hath sworn, and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchizedek.

>Genesis 14
>[18] And Melchizedek king of Salem brought forth bread and wine: and he was the priest of the most high God.
>[19] And he blessed him, and said, Blessed be Abram of the most high God, possessor of heaven and earth:
>[20] And blessed be the most high God, which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand. And he gave him tithes of all.

These five verses from the Old Testament, the supposed Jewish part of the Bible, completely BTFO the myth that Judaism existed before Christianity.

This notion that God is a singular entity is a Talmudic one, taught by Rabbis, who created the religion of Judaism during the Second Temple period. It is not a belief reflected in the Old Testament, as shown with the Psalm.

Also, Christ is said to be the high priest after the order of Melchizedek. Being the high priest, he brought forth bread and wine. There is no bread and wine in Judaism.

The Trinity and the Eucharist are concepts that have literally existed for thousands of years before Judaism was created.
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This is why when Jesus resurrected he had to "open the scriptures" for the apostles because they didn't realize who he was and how the OT revolves around him basically.

Judaism was a mistake.
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I fully suspect this is bait but
>there is no bread and wine in Judaism?
Nigga what? Sacramental wine and bread
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>>1830955
All this autism over spooks.

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