This is going to sound like I am a troll, but I'm actually being serious here.
So I am an English and German American but I am obsessed with Greece and Rome. I feel a tremendous amount of pride when I study Greece. I feel as if my people were Greeks.
Obviously since I am German/English, I am in no way Greek. Is it therefore wrong for me to feel this way? The Germans and English definitely contributed a lot to Western civilization, probably more to the modern state of it than the Greeks or Romans, so how should I react to learning about Greece and Rome? Is it wrong for me to feel pride? Especially since the Germans contributed to the downfall of the WRE.
Anyone else like this?
P.S. Fuck you if you think Westerners shouldn't be proud, you're retarded.
>>1830889
This is probably bait but whatever
>P.S. Fuck you if you think Westerners shouldn't be proud, you're retarded.
Being proud of being 'Western' is fucking retarded, because its' an extremely arbitrary categorisation that has no precedent other than by retarded and disproven pre-Victorian ethnographer
Nobody cares or gets annoyed if you're proud of being Spanish, German, Italian, American or whatever, but if you're proud of being 'Western' it's clear you're both a pseud and highly insecure
You shouldn't expect someone from Madrid, someone from Berlin, someone from Dublin and someone from Novgorod to be proud of the same categorisation the same way you shouldn't expect someone from Lhasa, someone from Saigon, someone from Beijing and someone from Tokyo to be proud of the same 'Eastern' categorisation
>>1830889
>As a German
Why do you feel proud over the thing your ancestors tried to destroy for thousand years?
>>1830899
Ok so you deny that there are common attributes that all Westerners share? If you do not then I see no problem with being proud of those common attributes. How does this make me a pseud and insecure?
Here's the problem. Many of those common attributes were created by the Greeks and the Romans, not the Germans, but I am still proud of them for some reason. Idk maybe I am not really and I just like what the Greeks and Romans did.
>*anime runs at you*
>you try shooting
>*bullets bounce off hitting your fellow soldiers in the head*
>"eh notthing personal kid"
>Not "nothing personnel kid"
You had one job.
>teleports behind him
"heh, you're ten years too young to face us kaffir"
>slices him in half
>jumps into air and behead him
>lands and sheaths katana before pieces hit ground
"psh, nothin personel infidels"
>>1830878
>be member of Society of Righteous and Harmonious Fists
>get shot
What if Oswald Mosley became the leader of Great Britain instead of Churchill?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTZG6kBSuBI
Instead of Kikehill? Well it'd be a better place.
How and in what circumstances?
aw hell yeah
I saw Enrico Dandolo at a marketplace in Venice yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for economic advice or anything.
He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?”
I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out of the plaza with like fifteen jewels in his hands without paying.
The girl at the stand was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the stand.
When she took the jewels and started appraising them as a whole, he stopped her and told her to price them each individually “to prevent any misappraisal,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she appraised each jewel and put them in a pouch and started to fill out the business forms, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.
>>1830747
I enjoy this meme.
>>1830747
>At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her,
0/10, It should be written that he can't see her.
>>1830747
>1107-1205
I want to know what wizardry he used to do this.
What is the most realistic medieval movie?
>>1830733
this is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHXTr0s-yOo
you're welcome
>>1830733
The Seventh Seal.
[Based off of another post]
When one investigates modern religions (As early as the reformation but most apparent in the 19th Century onwards) beyond the surface levels they quickly appear to be fabrications or human creations no matter how well meaning the creators intent; being very arbitrary and lacking a connection to the divine.
Because of issues like this religions from ancient times seem to be far more pure, consistent and in touch with the divine.
However when I looked into religions like apostolic Christianity and Theravada Buddhism (which I was initially very keen on ) I was eventually put off by the troubles that face ancient historians.
This is because the seemingly objective purity, consistency and divinity of it was illusory. For the idea that the teachings of groups like the Church Fathers for Christians or the Elders for the Th. Buddhists represent the unchanging consensus of the ideas of their times. However what they do represent is simply the ideas that were able to and most importantly allowed to be preserved.
Very very very little documentation remains from these times even liked and uncontroversial works like the biography of Cicero or the actual works of figures from the Helenistic schools. Christian religion becomes more complicated in that whichever group was politically dominant would literally destroy the works they deemed heretical or false and sometimes this would even go back and forth between groups.
So in the end aside from when we find works that were either hidden away and forgotten or dug out of garbage we are only left with the documents that the politically dominant group decided to and at great expense and effort were able to keep.
[P1}
>>1830618
[P2]
The most damming evidence around modern religions tends to be found in third party evidence - particularly regarding their founders and key figures lives and reports from ex members from their hierarchies and these documents simply do not exist in any great number or quality from ancient times. At best you have tiny snippets or a letter that were sourced from a longer document seeking to refute them - hence its kind of like trying to understand a book from the quotes in a polemic essay.
For modern religions there is no great veil of time and likewise writing and record keeping is no longer a cloistered activity which can be dominated to prevent counter narratives - hence why modern religions - seem impure and corrupted by default.
I was curious if anyone else has had thoughts on this issue.
You're too intelligent for 4chan
The writings of the church fathers were retreads by the church and its irish monks
Americans
Did your family support the Civil Rights Movement or were against it?.
My family supported George Wallace for president, Leander Perez and were members of the White Citizens' Councils in Lousiana
My grandparents did, and they are white
>>1830591
my grandparents lynched blacks, and they were black.
why was he such an ameriboo?
>>1830569
Because America is objectively the richest and most industrious country in history
cause he loved his mummy
>>1830569
He was American
What does /his know about the Nestorians. It seems like info on them especially in China is hard to find
>>1830536
The Nestorian legacy lives on in the Church of the East although by now they've renounced some of the elements which could be deemed 'Nestorian'. Their vestments and imagery are taken straight out of ancient Assyrian culture just like most other churches adapted some of their pre-Christian imagery.
https://youtu.be/NpQSLGQ4pnw
https://youtu.be/svjBl5Mh93I
https://youtu.be/tZRKbThHPYw
Sup /his/,
I'm writing a play I want part of it to involve a Chinese warship from the early 1900s (likely something that was used during the Boxer Rebellion). The problem is that I can't really find much info about Chinese naval vessels, though I do know at some points they used ships from the West.
Was there ever a ship within the last century that the Chinese could call their own? And does anyone here care to share some specs for the ships, or point me to some free PDFs I can grab at? I really want to be able to research the topic so I can give a loyal description.
>>1830434
>writing a play
how many dicks have you taken my man
>>1830434
(most of the junks I'm looking at right now deal with trading / mercantilism)
>>1830443
About a tenth of what your mom can on a good night.
>I'm a proud Christian
Oh fucking shit i'm laffin
>>1830421
What are you doing showing this whole board our plans, goyim?!
St-stop it now!
While I do agree that Christianity is bullshit, your post is wrong.
Christianity is only superficially Jewish: upon closer inspection, it has little to no understanding of Jewish theology or concepts. Actually, the scholarly opinion is that Christianity is mostly derived from Hellenic ideas, such as neo-Platonism and Greek paganism/mystery religion.
Why did the Great Leap Forward fail? I understand why the steel production failed but agriculturally, China's exceptionally fertile and besides the fact every man, woman and child was crammed into a commune I don't know much more about the movement. Why were there so many famines?
>>1830391
>but agriculturally, China's exceptionally fertile
Per capita China has very little arable land.
Also,
>why so many famines
Stupid commie shit + Chinese actually loved Mao and wouldn't tell him he was going full retard + what I said above
1) Centralised planning is dogshit
2) Mao was untouchable at this point and there was no one to argue against him and balance his overly zealous policies
3) It had some accomplishments. Mao still managed an impressive 5% growth rate and did rapidly industralise a largely agricultural country whilst raising the average life expectancy and literacy rates
So good and bad I guess.
>hey guise how about instead of a main smelting factory we have a bunch of tiny ones in homes?
Pants on head retard.
what kept the rockefeller republicans and the conservatives under one party structure for so long? why didn't they split sooner?
>>1830346
Nixon helped bridge the gap between the two. He endorsed Goldwater in '64, pursued the Southern Strategy in '68, and was a middle-class westerner, like the conservatives. However, he was far more moderate than the conservatives, wishing to preserve the New Deal state, if not expand it (created the EPA). He supported all of Ike's civil rights efforts
>>1830388
>southern strategy
>let's go and ensure racists doesn't have the ability to do their racists acts
>i'm sure the southern racists will love us for it
>>1830625
>if we crack down on niggers, but we don't say it's because of niggers, the racists will like us, and the liberals won't care
t. every US president since the civil rights movement
Post a historic military march song from your country
I start: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwX7nC-LpKs
Original
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXcK5L9dVYA
Modern German version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsSfTwT5EMM
SS French version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRMClsOTz10
Foreign legion version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DF6PenFuZOk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NViBxp1W__w
Does this count?
>Modern Arts
Ahh yes, very good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkZLl1CUT9s
Why do retards like you who sit on the internet all day think the most popular stuff in music/art today is in any way recognized by actual academics or critics?
Have you ever read a history of art book, retard? Have you ever seen a documentary of a rich person's collection?
No one cares about western mass produced crap, its actually places like the netherlands which are most acclaimed now in things like architecture and modern design
Please kill yourself and get off the internet, you're allowing it to shape your view of the world, i doubt you've been to a gallery in the past year
>>1830267
I actually own a copy of walls fall out so fuck off mate
>>1830267