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Time to find a new GM.

>>50351559
Seems like a GMPC would do it better, since they aren't reliant on interpreting the GM

Navi wasn't that annoying.

>>50351451
Players sold her into slavery since the slavers paid better then the king.

>>50351458
How did she feel about that?

My players killed her after they got convinced that she was possesed by daemon. I don't know if I roleplay women too bad or did I roleplay women too good.

>>50351368
Kyros IS the religion

It's called "Kyros' Law".

>>50351368
also that's Tunon

you'd need an enclosed lantern for it to be safe, and if it is your only source of light it'd get annoying quick.

but fantasy games aren't a simulation. People rarely care about marching order who who is carrying the torch in the dungeon, or where the torch goes when you are fighting the monsters

>>50350999
I still feel the need to run a proper classic dungeon crawl, where marching order is important, and you need to figure out how to haul all the crap out of the dungeon to sell it.
No pulled punches, no idiocy goes unpunished, death by stupidity is a constant danger.

>>50350999
>People rarely care about marching order who who is carrying the torch in the dungeon, or where the torch goes when you are fighting the monsters
They care if the torch goes into the monster.

It limits the mobility of the enemy and funnels them into killzones.

This super agile Eldar fuckboi? He can't go anywhere.
This super resistant Necron automaton and his friends? They can now be engaged and destroyed one at a time.

>>50350749
Containment.

An infect hive city can be surrounded by entrenchments, denied support by air/space, and shelled until its uninflected.

>>50350749
Because shockingly enough the writers behind 40k are not military strategists and don't know the first thing about war or even basic physics.

They write what sounds cool, that's it, no matter how retarded the idea seems when actually looked at for more than 5 minutes.

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FIRST FOR DARK ELDAR AREN'T DEAD BOIS

>>50350395
Fuck yes! I don't even play deldar, that was just a bullshit rule.

>>50350395

> Swerving a Raider into a sick tailspin has no effect on the passengers aim

But that's retarded.

you clearly failed the visual-spatial portion of your IQ test

>>50350287
Just because the game is told in 5ft squares doesn't mean that it's also in 5ft cubes.

>>50350363
Well on the map it says one square = 5 ft.

>>50350326
Yes.

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to this???

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from this.....

>>50350198
2 nukes?

>>50349915
Making them anything but humans would make them easy to dehumanise.
Purge non-humans.

In cases of a cat girl army that acts like Orcs it wouldn't matter if they look cute or sexy.
They're pillaging and raping the kingdom.

A kitten that acts like a lion is still a dumb kitten.

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>>50349915
Wouldn't they make better spies?

>>50349107
People are now hating on french commander and accusing it of being canadian highlander for going to 20 life, as if canadian highlander was a bad thing.

Who do people fear power?

I'll take a look at this but if Craterhoof isn't a numbered card then I'm out.
>it's not
who cares

>>50352119
Craterhoof is indeed a strong card, and the "Cradle-hoof" deck that combines it with Gaea's cradle is a significant force in the meta. But without being able to run all the tutors it likes, the deck is far from unbeatable.

7th Sea is a great system, but it's easy for the players to become way too strong. The party's tearing through Drachen and giant sea monsters like it's nothing, and the only way to make a character who isn't a pushover against the party is to make them completely broken.

When your players are cheating to help the villains you know there's a problem.

Legends of the Wulin is one of my favourite systems, but holy fuck it is so fucked up.

Beyond the core book having literally the worst editing, it also has a few bits of the system which are just broken. Core styles which can be nigh on unbeatable, aspects of the system which are outright better than others. It's still better balanced than 3.5 core, but that isn't saying much, and it requires so much damn work to get the whole thing running smoothly.

Then again, the company behind it is also a total clusterfuck. You can still buy the book but as far as can be told they're no longer making games anymore, and actually stole a lot of kickstarter money from Jenna Moran and, from what the ex-CEO said on KS, took the whole company from him and left him with nothing. So we can be sure that there'll never be any official fixes or updates for the damn thing, making getting into it at this point a huge amount of work with little chance of it getting easier. I think the payoff is worth it, but it's one of the worst barriers to entry I've ever seen.

Epic Armageddon is the best 6mm wargame GW have ever made.

Fact.

Now, I'm not saying Warmaster is bad, I'm not saying that 2nd Ed Epic was trash. I'm saying that Epic Armageddon is their best 6mm game, possibly even the best game ruleset wise they have EVER made, and that next to nobody played it when it was in production because of how badly 3rd Edition Epic had scarred the fanbase.

EA is the ONLY game by GW at least, where I have felt that it was my own decisions that have won or lost me the battle rather than how well my dice rolled.
It is the ONLY 40k game which really really nails how each army should play.
The Blast Marker mechanics are the one good thing to come out of 3rd ed and they have been improved upon here into a key mechanic that simplifies the game whilst keeping thematics wonderfully.
The victory condition system is one of the best ones I've ever played and anyone who just plays EA to kill points is a loser and a slattern who is basically only playing half the game.

Plus the models are, in the main (eldar have a few stinkers) really good.

It's awful. The Fate system is like freeform, except you get rewarded for nut-tapping yourself. It's supposed to discourage just playing a mary-sue, but the Dresden Files is built around having a Mary Sue and then just negging him constantly, so you end up with characters that are somehow even more unbearable than just a raw Mary Sue.

I've played twice, and am still wondering why I bothered trying the second time.

It's a good implementation of FATE. If you like FATE and DF, you'll like DFRPG.

>>50348148
The first edition (pre-errata or whatever they call it) was a godawful use of FATE, with everyone weighed down with 40 Aspects. Second time around was a bit better.

>>50347716
Read the setting guides for other games, you'll get the idea. These things don't pretty much all have the same things in them for no reason.

>>50347716
Depends on the setting and the system.

>>50347716
Sorry to be That Guy, but don't do it. Here is what happens to these kinds of things (in my experience):

1. Players recieve a massive set of homework to do. Just like in normal school, that shit get's tossed into a corner and never touched. (At least by some of them)

2. Game time rolls around, GM slowly realizes no one read his super special world guide, and likely gets annoyed/ass mad that all the effort in creating it went to waste.

3. Players continue to ignore the GM's picture perfect version of his world via any combination of the following:
* killing major NPCS
* Destroying major towns/cities
* Not giving a shit about major plot lines
* Getting distracted by a shiny spoon and going on a quest about the spoon

4. Eventually, either the GM changes things to deal with the players being players (Good Ending), or the game falls apart via the following steps (Bad Ending):
* The GM railroads the Players into following his idea of the world and its story
* The players either resist the railroading, or quit playing
* The GM continues his railroad tour of his setting until he is either just mentally-masturbating with some other people in the room once a week, or everyone quits and he ends up with no group to game with.

If you want to write a book about a world, write a book. If you want to know a whole bunch of world-building fluff, do it, but never force it upon your players. All they need to know from you is the crunchy stuff to get started. If tiefling's or elves or some other race has a unique fluff in your world, you can tell them, but only tell them that kind of stuff for the races they can play as, likewise give them any mechanical changes that come from that. If one of your players handed you a 500-page backstory, you probably wouldn't read it, why would you expect them to do the same. Having world documents for when player's have questions is great, it lets them engage the setting at their own pace. Don't force it.

>>50347393
Well, first, you have to figure out what their actual form of insanity. Extreme obsessive-compulsive disorder is going to produce a very different kind of character than someone who thinks that their dog is telling them to kill people.

Second, insane people have their own internal logic and reasoning for everything they do. They don't find it funny or strange. So you need to work out what that logic is, and then follow it as though it's the most normal thing in the world.

>>50347393
Yep. It's a constant.Idiot players talking about how crazy they are, that they're so psycho and outside of the norms of sanity, purely because they think it gives them any kind of interesting features or depth of character.

It doesn't. It's all about attention.

Rocks fall. Kill the spastic.

>tfw have that daki cover

D&D5e, Dungeon World, Possibly OSR games.

If you feel like breaking away from class based, Savage Worlds, Mutants and Masterminds, GURPS Dungeon Fantasy.

If you liked 4e combat and aren't afraid to put some work in for fluff, and you think your players will be on board, I'd also recommend Strike!, but only because I'm a huge fan.

>>50347114
D&D5e, FATE, Savage Worlds, M&M, The One Ring

Essentially anything but D&D 3e and it's ken will be alright for an entry level group. I made my start in 3.5e and it was rocky to say the least. You're looking for something that promotes roleplaying and isn't too based in 'game mastery'. For some options outside of the game you have in mind look at Battle Century G (mecha) and Dark Heresy (HERESY!).

>>50347114

You didn't like ORE?

If you're looking for fantasy try "Elric!", also released as "Stormbringer". If you're up for something a little more unusual, try Unknown Armies: it has an extremely straight-forward system letting you focus more on the roleplaying.