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>>46852973
>online game was yesterday
>GM got so drunk he got sick and left an hour into the game
>he was drinking because he was depressed

Im less annoyed than I am terribly worried.

>>46852999
I tried playing online once, but the gm just stopped playing after one session.

>>46852999
I hear pretty often about episodes like this in online gaming. Is it true or biased?

I want to cum inside Melly Sanders

She played a cleric of a vile god of gluttony. It was pretty disturbing, she just ate all kinds of stuff and by divine blessing could literally stomach it. As in, could distend her mouth to slowly eat someone if they weren't struggling, and her insides magically stored them while digesting so that she didn't look impossibly fat from it. Probably the worst, that people she ate, became incorporated into her, body and soul.

>Priest of Ogrir, God of Plunder
>Exchange healing spells for battlefield treasure
>Frequently let NPC's die if they didn't act with valour

Imagine 300ce Saxony, basically.

>>46851994
Nah. But I'm sure there are some construct-related variants lying around that should work just as well on them.

>>46851994
in the universes in which turn undead works, it wouldn't work on robots because that's not what undead means in those universes.

>>46851994
Undead are specifically individuals and beings who have been brought back from the dead. Joe's walking corpse actually has Joe's spirit/soul rattling around in it.

Uploading a mind into a robot or mainframe is effectively creating a copy of a brain pattern, not bringing a spirit back from the dead. Instead of bringing Joe back you've effectively just made Joe 2. As much as it might act like Joe 1, Joe 2 is its own entity. More importantly, Joe 2 does not originate from the land of the dead and thus does not qualify as undead.

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"Horror" describes a genre. But does it really? Is it not merely a theme that can be introduced into any genre?

Many "Horror" products do not primarily invoke feelings of being scared, helpless, revolted, or undercut. Some rely on parody, some on empowerment and action, some on mystery and investigation.

So how do the concepts of tension and relief, exposure and empowerment, the hidden and its revelation interact at the game table? How can they structure a game and how can they fail to come together?

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PCs tend to be heroic and rational. Characters in horror usually are not. Players want to dominate the story with power. Horror characters are out of their element and often stretched to the limit. How does this translate?

CoC has a "second health track" called sanity, it's just a number that counts down with each harrowing experience. So it represents a scarce resource which is taxed by the story. If you metagame it makes you avoid the adventure.

UA psychoanalyzes PCs in 5 dimensions: violence, helplessness, supernatural, self (morality), and isolation. In each of these the character can grow more unstable and more hardened, even both at the same time. This not only limits character actions by forcing them to fight, flight, or freeze on a failed roll, it also provides an easy readout of how the character might react to certain events depending on what they remind them of.

Both also feature pathologies characters suffer after repeated failed rolls, like an irrational phobia, alcoholism, or a need for control.

Dread goes a radically different route. Whether characters are able or not, who they are, how they feel, and what they have just been through all folds into one central mechanism. It isn't tracked separately, it all conforms to the tension curve. The entire party has one tool to resolve all challenges and conflicts. It is a Jenga Tower, and when it falls the character whose player was handling it dies. This puts the tension on the player, not just the character. And it allows even oblivious characters unaware of their peril to drive up the tension because the players know the danger, but not what form it takes.

ToC offers the gimmick to play insanity not for the character, but the player. On a failed roll the player is sent from the room and the other players then conspire to consistently do one irrational thing to that player, like never look at them, or pretend they always speak too quietly to understand.

What else?

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It depends a lot on the players. If they have their minds set on being heroes then anything the GM does to establish atmosphere or ambivalence will be received as railroading. Even if the group is playing a published CoC scenario, players who refuse to give their characters depth and flavor but reduce them to combat stats as a matter of course will refuse any attempt at atmosphere or tension. In fact they will understand tension as a challenge and attack it, then complain when that kills their characters.

For a moment, I thought they made a game of this old horror movie I saw a long time ago. But the name of that movie was apparently just "Horror Express".

>>46851753
It is flawed but a classic. It is long and pretty deadly, although less so than Masks. There is certainly a challenge in adapting it, and there is secondary literature to help you on the way. Horror was written at a time when there were no big narrative games, and so it relies heavily on players minmaxing their way through skill challenges and combat.

It is definitely NOT a module you can read as you go. It is vital to understand it all, be prepared for twists and turns, and to give it your own shading.

>>46852044

Yeah I could see me using that after I finish maybe masks or shadows. Definitely would give me the time to save up cash for the boxed bundle. I probably was hoping to save up for some candles, maybe some aesthetics to get a nice mood going. I'm big on theatrics of play.

I like it. I'd advise you not to get too many expansions though, they bog the game down.

No it's dumb and has zero replayability.

It doesn't have a dungeon crawly feel and it's not a fun party game.

Buy it anyway so you can support the makers of GURPS.

>>46851553
im suicidal any advice

>>46851255
That sounds more like a cursed item than a useless one.

>>46851281
Nah, it's actually incredibly useful. Just drop it on the ground next to an NPC and wait until they pick it up and put it on. Then just wait for them to die and you can loot all their stuff.

I mean, it worked for me in Arcanum, why not use the same strategy in other games?

>>46851255
The MTG player in me wants to find a way to magically shove an enemy into it during combat.

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>>46850827
Here is Nath so nobody needs to go digging. I am making an elf token spam deck with discard and sacrifice to help it make sure my opponent cant summon things that make him happy dince I can just kill a token for that.

why would you make a thread for this instead of posting to the /edh/ general? you killed another thread for this

>>46850905
Or just using google.
OP, fetchlands are a thing, as are Life from the Loam and Crucible of Worlds.

>>46850808
>It seems a little silly that these all powerful beings would create a design obviously done by humans.
rephrase in a way that makes any kind of sense

>>46850849
Totally makes sense, learn to read. He's saying they look human in design, so why would chaos gods choose them? Surely their personal representation would be more daemony?

>>46850908
Cause it's literally impossible to make something that doesn't look like it's designed by a human
Or at least it was when they made the symbols

>>46850753
yeah, but death is instantaneous
it's living, now it's dead
it's not drawn out indefinitely as a form of immortality
that shit ain't natural
muy no bueno

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>>46850786
I guess that's fair. Still a sweet concept though.

>>46850868
Druids can be evil too, they're just dominantly more neutral.
Hell, Lichs don't even need to be fully evil.

I'm imagining a druid with a vendetta against civilization, so he embraces necromancy along with his nature magic (since folk keep killing his damn forest), and decides life is too restrictive for his goals.

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>>46850626
You are not fooling anyone, ND.

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>>46850626
That looks like a fun challenge.

There are no character creation points, no classes, you just get X number of pieces to build you character. Give him a pirate body = he has pirate grog-drinking skills, samurai arms = samurai sword skills, knight's pants = armored legs etc. All abilities are inherent in the pieces used to build your character. Which again depends on what bricks you can find in whatever lego collection tour group uses.

Lets say you get Y minutes to find the parts you want and combine them in a meaningful way, with certain limitations. There's a max to how many pieces you can have, and you need some basics as laid out by the situation.

Dungeons and adventures are constructed on the spot. You have a pirate ship and some spacemen lying around? Cool, now the group are either pirates encountering spacemen or spacemen fighting off pirates. Or they could be spacemen on a pirate ship fighting off pirates in spaceships. Whatever players and GM can come up with.

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Brikwars is the name, the attached image is the game.
A super fun minature wargame based arround custom minifigures,and it can be modified for roleplay.

>>46850593
uhh...do you like warhammer?

They told you to ask US?
Are you sure you didn't mean /vg/?

This is /tg/ m8
>>>/v/

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>>46793461

This is another line of inquiry I have fielded in previous threads.

By default, Spelljammer *is* part and parcel of Planescape. Spelljammer and every other published setting (save for Ravenloft) cover what goes on in the Prime, while Planescape describes the rest of the multiverse. Planar adventurers are going to have to visit the Prime sooner or later, and for that, a GM is well within their rights to bring in Spelljammer material.

Planescape acknowledged Spelljammer a few times, such as the mentions of crystal spheres and phlogiston in page 5 of the original boxed set's Player's Guide to the Planes, page 32 of the Planewalker's Handbook, and page 160 of On Hallowed Ground.

However, the Planescape books were always reluctant to go into detail with regards to Spelljammer elements, and for a good reason: the latter product line was already dead. Thus, the integration between the two settings was minimal, even in Prime-focused elements of Planescape.

A good example of this is the initial faction overview for the Harmonium in pages 90-91 of the Factol's Manifesto. This establishes their home world of Ortho as a single Prime world. It contains no mention of crystal spheres, spelljammers, or wildspace. Canonically, the Harmonium dominates one world in the Prime, and that is it.

(Meanwhile, Dark Sun, which *was* an active product line at the time, inexplicably received plenty of spotlight in that very entry. Apparently, people in Sigil regularly compare the Harmonium to the champions of Rajaat, as if Athas's secret history was common knowledge in the Cage?)

In other words, while Spelljammer and Planescape are canonically integrated by default, the integration is minimal, and you are going to have to do the hard work of tying together setting elements yourself. (For example: Does the Harmonium have a crystal sphere empire? Does the Elven Imperial Navy stop by Arborea often? Do the illithid travel to Ilsensine's divine realm in the Outlands frequently?)

>Spelljammer and every other published setting (save for Ravenloft) cover what goes on in the Prime
The Phlogiston is distinctly not part of the Prime Material Plane.

Do you think by making the strange and wondrous mundane that the setting really suffers for it? I find myself having difficulty making compelling adventures.

>>46850413
>playing as a non-human

Fuck that noise.

>>46850640
I take it you can't think of any decent way to run a Good-aligned drow, either?

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>>46850413
This isn't exactly what you said, but I played a Drow character once like pic related. Still evil, but mostly just wanted to be alone, so he left the underdark and made a hovel in the swamp and accidentally became a folk hero to the neighboring town

Digga pls

I love Urist

Okay