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I think I may have found the perfect place for ManCamp.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SX2MvCnyRTo

There is even a fjord

This is my /out/ fantasy. Anyone else?
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>>642690
>ghost town
>working street lights

That would freak the shit out of me.
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Jesus christo that presenter is a big fat blob. How does an obese person get a job where people have to look at it.
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>>642760

This is the same town that went an urbexer went to take a peek around, he found the lights in the library were still on 30 years later. Also, florescents last a long time.

>>642690
I love stumbling on abandoned stuff when I am /out/ and about but it can be creepy sometimes.

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Hello I tried posting this thread on /diy/ but perhaps this board is more appropriate.

I want to buy a book on vegetable/herb/fruit growing since its something I want to get into. Ideally it should be one huge tome full of everything I need but one introductory book + one advanced seems reasonable too.

I have tried googling some recommendations but have not found anything that I like, most books seem to be full of pictures but little useful information. Can anyone suggest anything?
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>>656275
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>>654914

Also nothing like that exists per se. Also, most books are pushing only 1 type of gardening technique. It is better to get your info from a great range of books or simply from online. It needs to be tailored to your vegetables, climate/environment, and scale.
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>>656275
The Encyclopedia of Country Living.
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You can find a .pdf of John Seymour's The complete book of self-sufficiency.

It's a little old fashioned but an interesting read, and covers all the basis so you have a good working knowledge of the whole system and the interplay between different elements.

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Ok so I after spending a lot of years playing vidya I want to get out more but having had photography as a hobby I kind of sense that all the gear that outdoor stores try to sell you might be a bit uncessesary

What I'm considering buying
>outdoor pants
all I have are tight jeans and they're just not comfy enough for hiking
do I need to buy an outdoor brand or would a pair of work cargo chinos suffice?

>boots
I have a pair that are very warm and comfy, but they're not by an outdoor brand. should I just walk em out until they fall apart or buy proper outdoor boots right away?

>outdoor stove
how long do you usually go out without packing one of these? I figure I could just bring some sandwitches and fruit to hold me over for at least 24 hours

general tips about gear for a newbie is greatly appreciated
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>>654718
Try to wander as deep into the forest as possible to be safest from soceity

A pleb would tell you to bring a compass but its 2016 now!

Travel light
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For day trips, you shouldn't need much beyond extra layers, a first aid kit, your camera and any extra lenses or whatever you need, a knife and some cord and maybe a tarp if you're really scared about getting lost, and a raincoat and backpack to hold it all in. If you're sticking to a pretty beaten and established trail system (like 90% of the ccfpd if you're near chicago like me), a map and compass shouldn't be necessary.

I don't really know what to tell you about pants, because i've worn slim jeans on day trips and been fine, but something pretty loose and ideally a synthetic material is ideal. For your boots, it really depends on if the ones you have now are hiking boots or combat/work/snow/other boots. Wear them on your first trip, see how they feel. Don't forget that hiking socks are amazing and if you can't get them high socks are still a must.

It's a day trip, you don't NEED a stove at all. You probably wouldn't need one until you start multi-night trips, but warm food can make being /out/ feel a lot nicer, especially if it's chilly or rainy.
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>>654718
You mean, going out at the morning and getting back the same day?

Man, you need absolutely nothing.
Get a 1L plastic bottle of water and a sandwich it an old bag, and you are set. If you are not following a trail, add a map. You don't need anything else.

>outdoor pant
Fuck that. Yes, a jeans is fine. It used to be the clothes of sailors, lumberjacks and miners.
Velvet pants are good too.
Modern technical clothes are better, but for a day hike, you don't want to spend that money.
Milsup will make you look like a fool.

>boot
They must fit your foot. You are the only one who can say if yours are okay for a few hours trip.

>stove
Start with the sandwich. Then try other things you can just eat. If you want to start to get some gear and want an alcohol, small wood, or solid fuel stove, all of them are equally bad. Do your own if you want a nice one.
Cooking the food is for when dry food and mess kit are lighter than MRE. If you don't stay out at least 48 hours, don't take one.

tip of the day: check your itinerary on google earth and check the weather just before you go.

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Just like the title says.
From 20 to about -40 F, are there any viable alternatives to using a sleeping bag?

I was reading up on Surplus color weather gear and someone was saying that the Lv7 ECWCS trousers and jacket could be worn instead of using a sleeping bag because they are rated to -40. Theoretically this would allow you to get up and see what that dump was quicker, and they pack smaller than most comparably warm sleeping bags.

-this is assuming you are sleeping in a 4 season tent, with a reflective space blanket beneath you to bounce your heat back on you.-

Picture is the suit in question. It is over sized, so even if it gets really bad or if it doesn't work as well as it says, I could layer up.
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This stuff looks pretty hardcore:

http://www.fortressclothing.com/all-products


Their normal stuff is -30F rated and their extreme stuff is up to -68F
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>>654599
That's actually a pretty nice sounding idea, considering I usually have to get up like 5 times when doing overnights.

http://www.kommandostore.com/new/austrian-sniper-sleeping-bag.html

Maybe not what you're looking for, but it's still a cool alternative.
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>>654599
You have to be extremely careful about wearing clothing while sleeping in very cold conditions. It is very easy to cut off circulation while you are sleeping and have very bad frostbite set in. Something as simple as socks that are a bit too tight can do this and you can end up losing toes. This can happen even in -40 equipment simply because there's nothing heating it when the circulation is too low or cut off.

I'm not joking about this shit either.

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Pretty amazing weather we've been having in the USA! Hope everyone is safe.

I saw the radar this morning and thought it was pretty interesting. To think it is snowing in Texas and raining everywhere else! Wow!

Post your weather related content here.
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>>654082
>fuckeverything.jpg

It is raining here. 76F

THERE'S SUPPOSED TO BE SNOW!!!!

Instead I'm in shorts with a fan in the window trying to keep cool. What the fuck man?
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>>654082
Late spring weather at the turn of the year?

Climate change.
Israel.
Isreal.
Itsreal
It's real.
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>>654325
Either that or the el nino (which isn't to say its not caused by or influenced by climate change, but who really knows) its definitely unusual weather.

While everyone is pretty much aware of our individual insignificance in trying to slow climate change and those who do understand it have a feeling of resignation, I think we take solace in the fact that a warmer climate (I write as someone in the eastern US) is going to be more enjoyable for us to live in, despite the economic, agricultural, environmental costs, etc. I don't think anyone realized it would mean cool, wet weather for months which is just shitty in general.

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Is there a modern guide to being homeless? I'd imagine its a lot easier now with advancements in technology and new resources like gps and various apps. Had would a person go about traveling safely back and forth across the US?
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>how
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Check out the van dwelling culture/community
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>>653965

I'm more interested in know about on foot travel.
Is it dangerous what safety precautions can be taken? would it be good to find a safe place to sleep during the day and travel during the night?

What's the best /out/ country?

I would have to say either Canada or Russia due to the massive amounts of wilderness.

What do you guys think?
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US because permafrost and peatlands aren't the nicest /out/tings.
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>>650465
Canada and Russia are the best I'd you REALLY want to leave civilization, but I wouldn't say that's the only definition of being /out/.

If I had to pick a country, it would be one that's most diverse. The USA is probably the most diverse country geographically on the planet.

USA has arid desert, high snow covered peaks, vast plains of grasslands, temperate forests, rocky cold coastline, tropical islands, warm Sandy beaches, artic tundra.... a huge selection of stuff to go /out/ in.

Other countries that may come close would be Brazil due to the huge rainforests, Argentina with its mountains, plains, and coast, Australia with the vast outback and coastlines, even China with its varied terrain.
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>>650530
Confirmed for not being the most diverse, google will tell you this.

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Basically I'm just some crazy kid who likes plants but doesn't know much about growing them. What I want to do is find some small little plant, or a seed. And plant it in this, what do I need? Can I just use dirt from outside? Do I need specific soil or some shit? Help plz
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>>656517

from seeds, plants take a while depending on the breed to actually shoot and become strong. In the meantime they are incredibly weak (some anyway) and they generally need alot of effort for no long term visual feedback.

Now cuttings, that shit is cash. learn how to maintain cuttings from older plants and skip the shoot phase of seedlings.

I would advise some better containers with holes in the bottom for better chance of not overwatering a young plant. Though I see the appeal of the jar itself.

I dont have the conditions where I live, but I would love to grow a redwood from a seed that I could find inside one of its pinecones. Those things require strange tempature conditions to germinate however, but they grow so fast.... imagine showing your grandchildren some 60 ft tall redwood and saying "I planted that when it was just a pinecone"
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Are your parents going to be mad when they catch you growing marijuanas?
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Seriously op i shit you not i was in your exact position like 2-3 months ago.

Id just seen the movie the martian, id allways wanted to grow things and i had this moment where i was like "if matt damon can do it on mars with just what he had, surely i can do it on earth".

So i scooped out several seeds from a butternut squash while i was preparing it to cook and put them to one side, i found a small plastic container with a screw on lid, similar to yours in size, i wend and dug up some dirt from outside, put it in the container, pressed the seeds in about an inch, i planted 3 of them btw, watered it well then screwed the lid on and left it on a windowsill, id open it for like 10-15 mins a day and give it a splash of water when it was looking a little dry, and you know what...

After about a week, They sprouted, they grew, overnight they went from little "hey there might be something going on" to alive, a shoot with two round leaves...it was such a happy feeling.

Ive still got those sprouts, theyve survived 2 serious pot size upgrades and now live outside in partial sun, theyre growing well and are about due for another pot upsize.

Pic related is them, maybe a week after they sprouted, they were droopy so i supported them with some metal skewers and some cotton tied gently around the stalks in loops.

So op, in summary, dirt from your backyard is fine, that container is fine, all you need is a seed to plant and to water it each day.

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So I thought it might be worth it just for the hell of it to have an urban disaster survival thread for the sake of the pacific northwesterners on the board. I happen to be a seismologist but not an earthquake seismologist. Still I know some things.

earthquakes work on a logarithmic scale. so each digit up is 10 times worse than the last. the following is a rough guide based on how long it lasts:

1 minute - 7s
2 minutes - 8s
3 minutes - high 8s
4 minutes - 9s

your area isn't really ready for an earthquake. A lot of buildings are not really built well enough. There will probably be a lot of falling glass and debris. get under something sturdy or get out and to the open if you can do it safely. If you have a bug out bag now is the time to grab it. most of your standard stuff.

After it's over could be 10s of minutes before a tsunami hits. Watch out if you are around rivers or streams as they could flood substantially upstream. water would likely be sucked out initially but will flood back heavily. Either get inside a sturdy building with at least a second floor or get to higher ground. You could be trapped for a night out there so having a flashlight, lighter, wool blanket, poncho, water ...could be key.

If you made it past that point likely you're looking at about 2 months of no power/water/utilities. Bleach is a readily available long term water purification solution. 2-4 drops per liter/quart depending on how cold/dirty it is. paint thinner can be used as zippo fuel and new flints can be obtained from spent bics. watch out for collapsing buildings (aftershocks will happen). You could end up with no gear, no home, no nothing and in that case the info (I'm hoping will be posted) in this thread could be very useful.

In regard to warnings, if you ever notice animals going nuts all at once just try to be ready for something to happen. There is a faster seismic wave that animals can pick up on (basically the sound wave in the ground).
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>>655865
to be explicit this is just info for surviving a massive earthquake scenario, during and after.
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>>655865
You forgot liquefaction.
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Pretty sure the government would just step in and provide food and shelter.
I wouldn't worry about it.

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I'm going /out/ on a week long camping trip again for new years.

And I've always struggled to know what food to even take every time. Sometimes its been easy with cold meats for the first day or two, but then its tinned tomatoes and carrots for the rest.

This year its a pretty stationary camping trip.

My problem is that because of the extreme heats for most of it, there will likely be state-wide fire bans, so cooking shit is going to be totally out of the question, which sucks because I'd just gotten a new camp stove for christmas.

What are some good foods to sustain someone for a week without the need to cook anything?
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For a week hike I once packed:

1 stick of pepperoni
4 bagels
4 snack sized peanut butter packs
4 bananas

8 pouches of flavored tuna
5 cups of brown rice

12 packets assorted flavored oatmeal
6 scoops of protein powder to be added to oatmeal

2 large ziploc bags of trail mix consisting of: peanuts, almonds, soy nuts, banana chips, yogurt covered raisins, cherries.

3, two serving mountain house dehydrated meals assorted flavors/meals

6 cliff bars


The bananas got a little squished but I ate them quickly.

I got sick of oatmeal for breakfasts but would add 2 handfuls of the trailmix to spice it up.

Lunch was usually a bagel with peanut butter and some pepperoni stick

Dinner was usually 2 tuna packets with rice or a mountain house meal

I would snack on cliff bars or the trail mix during the day.

Overall I packed a good amount for about 6-7 days.
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>>652144
Even with a fire ban, can't you just use a propane stove?

I mean a little isobutune stove to boil water isn't the same thing as having a fire. Even with a fire ban you should still be able to cook. Even just a charcoal stove should be fine.

Load up a cooler with beef, chicken, anything really and cook like you normally would grill at home.
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>>652149

Forgot to mention some of my items require a small MSR pocket rocket stove and pot for boiling water but that's it.

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Anyone else /out/ there psyched for this movie?

Also /out/ movies general I guess.
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>>649125
So stoked. I'm thinking a spiritual successor to Jeremiah Johnson? If you want /out/ movies...
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/tv/ says innaritu is a meme director - what do they mean by this?
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>>649134
/tv/ doesn't like any movies.

I have yet to see them all say. Something is good. They will find the smallest things to sperg about.

My family hates that I do solo hikes around Wisconsin. They say that I am asking to be murdered by going hiking alone. There have been a couple famous murders with hikers being killed on trails, and bodies are found every once in a while trails around the state.

Do you think that solo hiking is dangerous, as far as other humans are concerned?
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Solo hiking? Christ, your family must be ultra paranoid or watch too much Fox News. I could understand if you were camping alone but are you seriously supposed to limit yourself from going outside because of the fear that someone might want to kill you? That's such backwards logic that I'm legit shocked.

Buy some pepper spray if it makes you feel safe, but the truth is you're probably way safer taking a hike than you are driving a car, walking down a busy street, going to any public place, etc. the chances of something bad happening are so small they're not worth fretting about, and the sad truth is it just comes down to wrong place at the wrong time which is totally out of your control. The best you can be is prepared, so buy some sort of self defense item to carry with you.
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>>655760
how easy is it to get a pistol in Wisconsin?
buy a .22 pistol and practice with it. shooting cans with a .22 is the shit
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>>655763
I've been wanting to buy a handgun, but just don't have the money for it right now. I just bring a baseball bat with me.

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Rate my multitool
Is this crap?
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Pic with it closed
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Well its giving me the giggles so its good for that!
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>>652997
I have no idea OP, but I see those around and I've never gotten to handle one.
I'm excited to hear feedback and am monitoring this thread.
Merry christmas.

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Hello /out/, I am really new to weapons and specially hunting, but I'm still really interested, but I find it really hard to find good tutorials on hunting (anything from hares to deer). Most tutorials are on more advanced shit like what type of scent killer to use, whether you should smear yourself in Internet deer shit or not, or what kind of camera to buy. I just want to know the bare basics. Speak to me like I'm retarded. I just got off the truck, what's the first thing I should do?
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First step is to read and understand your State's/country's regulations regarding hunting
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>>652477
this. truly this.
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>>652476
First you need to pick what type of hunting you want to do. There is scrape hunting, stalk hunting, and stand hunting and many other varieties of techniques. Each has their own pro's and cons.

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Do you camp places you're strictly not suppose to camp?
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no
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>>646526
No but I've camped and not paid several times. They don't want to collect the money, I don't pay.
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Yes and yes.

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