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>>8429824
>[old dead smart guy] --->[old dead smart guy] --->[old dead smart guy] --->[old dead smart guy]....

why do we have to do this everyday

>>8429824
Read Magee's 'The Story of philosophy'
It's a short book that comprises the most important thinkers and their works
You won't learn shit about actual philosophy but you'll get a good idea what's all about

>>8429824
get a solid history of philosophy book and then read what you want

>at the very least I'd like to know why.

well for one you're blogging about it on an anonymouse burmese carpentry imageboard

>taking a class taught by a nigger

I had a class where tweeting a line from the nights reading at the teacher was 10% of the grade. I ended up getting around an 85 in the class because I never tweeted, it was bull.

Fun & prose

>>8429800
Dude's fun, but his prose can be a little dry at times.

inb4 my fav author pasta

>>8429770

What does that label matter?

>>8429770

No he was a god among men

>>8429770
>"Well, it was a picture representing Goethe, the poet Goethe, you know. But it was not in the least as he really looked. That, of course, nobody can know exactly. He has been dead a hundred years. However, some artist of today had painted his portrait as he imagined him to have been and prettified him, and this picture annoyed me. It made me perfectly sick. I don't know whether you can understand that."

REEE! Yes, Goethe is clearly a meme. Imagine walking into normalfag's house and seeing a bust of a wise and benevolent Pepe gazing down on the dinner table.

infinite jest

>>8429736
>/lit/ starter pack
Check the /lit/ starter pack
Also what a rare Warren Beatty

>>8429736

All those books you did in high school but you didn't actually read? Go read those. Do that now.

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>>8429732

>>8429732
are you planning on shoving that "Marpacio" up your ass?

what the fuck man

>>8429739
at least he's gonna wrap it up

stay safe kids

>>8429731

The division you're making seems rather arbitrary and based on semantics. Development just means that the more we experience the character the more we come to understand and/or relate to them, in whatever way that is accomplished.

Past exposition and origin stories are just that: backstories. Maybe that's the vocab word you wanna use there.

The truth is character development just means that a character is fleshed out as the story progresses. It can be either allowing them to grow/change over the plot of a story arc as events influence them, or exploring their past and having them already "developed" and revealing how their development got them to now and seeing how their background influences their actions.

Stories criticized for not having good character development can mean anything from the character not responding realistically or in accordance with what the events that happened to them would imply, that they follow incredibly basic tropes and remain static in order to follow templates of former successful media, that their motivations and ideas remain unexplored so they simply act as plot devices to further the story along for the sole sake of progression and nothing else, or that their motivations fall into the infamous "telling and not showing" criticism via bland expository dialogue or something. I'm sure there's tons of other examples I'm missing.

What I'm trying to say is there's no one way to do it. Character development is successfully crafting an experience that allows the audience to understand the character more and more as the story moves forward. Some character's don't need to change in order for this to occur. Some do.

>>8429731
Who cares? You don't need these cliché technical terms, and they can even get in the way of your writing and critical thinking.

>>8429731
It is both though.

Don't make it more complex than it needs to be. Character development - developing your character. You do this by providing details, or demonstration through context and action. Changes a character goes through over a story is simply one way to immerse the reader and make your character and story feel alive. How you do any of this depends on your story and character.

>>8429721
Kierkegaard's Fear and Trembling is a good book for the "leap of faith" concept.

>>8429726
Is it a hard read? Im quite new to reading in a "serious" way, and I understand most philosophical works require some level of previous understanding.

>>8429738
Like many philosophical works, it is difficult to read and fully understand. I'd suggest picking up a copy and at least becoming familiar with the language, even if you don't fully understand its conclusions. I picked it up when I was younger and, although I didn't quite understand its conclusions, it helped me to inhabit the language necessary for understanding philosophy. If you want to start with philosophy as a subject, then read the histories of either Russell or Durant. If you want something more in depth that tackles Kierkegaard specifically, look at Volume 7 of Copleston's history of philosophy. There isn't any substitute, though, for reading philosophy when it comes to understanding the language of philosophy.

>>8429661
shove a banana in your butthole t b h

>>8429661
u have to gimme the succ

Do what Wallace did, claim you never read Pynchon; say you read others that may have influenced Pynchon.

W/o "an"

>>8429598
>Alex’s way of thinking about life could be considered anachronistic.

>>8429609
>>8429610
Thanks ppl! english aint my first language

>>8429565
Being a Marxist implies you have read and follow Marx's writings. Marx outlines clearly how he believes a socialist revolution would take place. You wouldn't be a very good Marxist if you thought otherwise

because they're Marxists
it's an entire belief system lad

>>8429565
No idea. Imho Kapital vol. 1 is a really solid critique, but then the next two (possibly because of the higher Engels-to-Marx ratio) just shit it all up.

>>8429599
>you either agree with everything he said or none of it meme

>>8429564
I've heard.. it drags on.. I've read some of the classics in original text, "dreams of the red chambers", but that's also not in literary or classical Chinese. For that, I'm picking up Zhuangzi, which editon is still in consideration. I'm also interested in Taiwanese literature, as I'm living here, I've exhausted Pai Hsien-yung, and I'm not sure where to go from here.

W U X I A
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If only there was somebody with decent prose to actually translate them, right now most of the 4 Chinese classics are close to unbearable in English.

Just write everything down and figure it out later

>>8429520
I just started out with a few bullet points in a word file, then eventually expanded the ideas and characters into a rough outline of each chapter (approx. 3-5 sentences for each one).

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>>8429520
Having structure. Read any books or watch a movie for you to see it faster. Let me take The Fault in Our Stars as an example.

>desire
>conflict
>resolution

First of all, you need a scene to hook up the readers and setup the character (he / she needs to be relatable or at least make us care for him / her).

John Green introduces Hazel Grace Lancaster early on in the novel, a young independant smart girl who is sick (makes us feel sorry and care for her) and lonely because no boyfriend (makes us relate to her because book readers are just people who lack sexual activity).

She meets fellow cancer survival Augustus. They both want to know the ending of this book that a /r9k/ writer is prepping in his comfy Amsterdam apartment.

But her implicit desire is to get laid with a hot Chad from /fit/ so her life has some gratification.

>conflict

Hazel gets sick all of a sudden and it makes her feel like she's a grenade that will blow up and ruin Chad's life. She doesn't want that and becomes sad.

They fight off the problem and prove that love survives everything.

But then in the end of the second act, Augustus (Chad) reveals that he is the one who is sick and is going to die. So we need to keep reading this shitty book.

>resolution

Augustus dies but Hazel realizes that despite of everything, she got gratification enough and that he was super great and the best person ever. And then she improves and becomes more mature herself (this is called an arch, when a character changes).

See, it's not so hard. Bravo, John Green!

I'm at the second book of Prince of Nothing.

I like it so far, lots of random namedrop but whatever.

Question, is there any other fantasy book with a perfect main character that pretty much wins every time, everyone loves him, is always the smartest and strongest and generally is simply godlike?

I love Kellhus desu and I'm not even gay.

>>8429427
>I love kellhus

Wew lad I am fucking triggered

>>8429332
Bashrag were mentioned often, but didnt show up until The Judging Eye

>>8429415
Last two threads have been nothing but genre trash, seems it will stay that way. Plebieans have overrun this place, OP being one of them.
For discussion on non-autistic, non-power fantasy we'll probably have to go back to specific threads.

i'd cut out the first two paragraphs. boring and unnecessary; start the novel with your third paragrapth.

>>8429414

Seconded

>>8429414
If you don't want to do this, at least put it somewhere else.