ITT: Post your /lit/ evening
>>8429732
>>8429732
are you planning on shoving that "Marpacio" up your ass?
what the fuck man
>>8429739
at least he's gonna wrap it up
stay safe kids
>>8429739
Reck
>>8429739
rude
>translated books
>>8429766
>>8429753
hahaha XD XD
>>8429772
>Not the King James Version
>>8429772
You know, I considered getting that version first, but the Lisa Ann model was calling me.
>>8429783
>not the new oxford annotated bible
Why bother?
>>8429810
>not the didache bible
lmao @ ur life
>>8429815
There's no reason for going with it.
what is this board's obsession with phallic objects
This thread is making me giggle like a damned idiot for some reason.
>>8429842
>A Void
patrician af senpai
>>8429772
Do all fleshlights make the lolwut face, or just this one?
>>8429858
Thanks man
Gonna read Revenentes next and then Life because so far A Void is turning out fucking 10/10. Kinda gimmicky and obvious at points (auditory organs, really?) but both Perec and the translator did a fantastic job of making a great book out of what could have been just a cheap novelty
>marcepan
szanuje, patrycjusz/10
>tłumaczenia z języka angielskiego
czy ty w ogóle próbujesz
>>8429858
Is it good? I avoided buying it because it looked like a gimmick. A gimmick translated into English, which is even weirder.
>>8429868
I now know how to say patrician in Consonantese
>>8429869
It's legitimately a great postmodern detective story. It's impressive but you pretty quickly forget about it except at choice parts, and the concept of something being missing but not being able to place what it is becomes a central point of the book
All in all, yes, do read it
>>8429732
a tecze grawitacji czytales? Dobre sa te tlumaczenia pynchona?
>>8429842
God tier taste t.b.h.f.a.m
>>8429874
fuuuuuuuuuuuuu
It was in a charity shop for 50p. Oh well, maybe one day I'll see it again...
>>8429890
Oh definitely, I got that Vintage copy for 6.50 at the first bookshop I went to, you'll certainly find it online even if you can't get it in person
>posting on an English forum
>still reading English books translated into your shitty language
wew, I seriously hope none of you are actually doing this.
>>8429900
Ah, but I only ever buy from charity shops. I get the thrill of the chase and starving orphans get a goat to help them build a well or whateverplus it's super cheap
>>8429732
why would you masturbate with a condom on
you fucking virgin
>>8429913
Fair enough
But fuck the orphans and their goats too and just read the damn book
(And also anything else by OuLiPo)
>>8429772
>No glasses or banana on your fleshlight
>>8429929
OuLiPo is patrician literaturę. Debate
>>8429971
No dispute from me
>>8429842
ur my fav anon of them all.
>>8429772
>tfw I have the same fleshlight
My nigga
>>8429777
>he reads Cervantes, Dante, Homer, Virgil, Ovid, Proust, Tolstoy, Dostoievski, Gombrowicz, Kafka, Goethe, Baudelaire, Bolaño, Borges, Saramago, Kawabata, Mishima, Oe, Nietzche, Assis, Stendhal, Mann, Broch, Bulgakov, Tchekov, Rosa, Camões, Seneca, Buzzati, Calvino, Pessoa, Musil, Svevo, Pavese, Tanizaki, Canetti, Flaubert, Rilke, Moliere, Carpentier, Plato, Hesiod, Petrarca, Boccaccio, Ariosto, Ibsen, Lorca, Puchkin, Cortazar, Descartes, Schopenhauer, Gide, Fontane, Kundera, Satre, Camus, Zola in english
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA pleb
>>8430056
the difference is he's posting on an english language website. no excuse for reading translated english books
>>8430116
>i don't eat swiss chocolate because i can't identify switzerland on a map
>>8430125
what the literal fuck are you talking about? if i had the ability to post on a russian website i would read Dostoyevski in russian. it boggles my mind that these people don't apply their skills
>>8429842
what do the "E"s refer to?
Happy that the children are occupied by /lite/.
>>8430131
The letter is missing throughout the book, has something the do with the jews disappearing during WW II
>>8429784
What is this Lisa Ann version of the bible you are talking about?
>>8430130
i'm sure that's the only thing stopping you from reading dostoevsky in russian
>>8429772
>>8430152
It would have been a great joke to be frank, shame you fucked it up
>>8430131
Book is written entirely without the use of the letter "e" (most frequently used letter in the English language, so kudos to the translator)
>>8430152
The King James fleshlight is GOAT
>>8430148
you are fucking dull aren't you? if i had the language skills that allowed me to write and read on a russian website, then i would use those skills to read dosto in russian.
similarly people here that have the ability to read and write in english SHOULD read english books untranslated.
i'm not going to respond again because your limit cognition skills are annoying me
>>8430116
are you a literal retard?
you better be
>>8430192
are you? if u have the skills why not fucking use them. fuck off liberal beta nu-male
>>8430196
>fuck off liberal beta nu-male
amerilards, not even once
>>8430180
>i can type simple sentences on an online forum and read maymays posted here coherently ergo i can easily read and fully understand foreign literature
what is this
>>8430213
how is liberalism even related
>>8430205
not that guy, but honestly just kys you worthless piece of trash
>>8430213
>>8430224
>its a "amerifat gets triggered because of translations" episode
>>8430230
you hate us because you aint us.
whether you're a shitskin in mexicant, some irrelevant shithole in s. america, or a literal european cuck getting raped by mudslimes, you wish you were american
>>8430234
>you wish you were american
>wishing to be obese
>ever
>>8430234
mudslimes > niggers
>>8430239
obesity is higher in central and south america.
>>8430241
>amerifailures tries to argue
>gets triggered
man, so pathetic
>>8430247
be honest, you wish you were american. its ok you're anonymous here
>>8430234
>false democracy
>worldwide exploitation
>24/7 surveillance
>hollywood
a land of obese sheep
>>8430230
I'm not American you stupid fucking mongoloid.
But America is in fact the greatest country in the world and in my opinion the greatets country of all time.
Anti-Americanism is directly correlated to Anti-Intellectualism and general stupidity but that's a topic for another post.
Just HOW did you make the conclusion that the other poster and me are Americans?
It is widely known that translations are always bad and should be avoided at all costs.
Foreign books like stuff from Dostoevsky or Proust are exceptions but luckily for us, the majority of worthwile literature was written in English.
Dubbed movies are unwatchable because the subtext gets butchered in the translation. Why shouldn't the same apply for translations of books?
>it's a "Eurotrash is mad because he is too stupid to learn English, the easiest language in the world" episode
wew
I'm sadly a German, fwiw.
>>8430263
>Anti-Americans are too stupid to read
lol
>>8430253
>a german cuck
o wow, what a shock
>>8430209
>implying dostoyevsky is any more challenging than online forums
>>8429732
American here, California to be specific.
I recently visited San Francisco and it smells like shit all the time because of homeless people defecate everywhere.
Black people are the fucking worst.
What's a good European country to move to?
>>8429842
>bottled water
What's wrong with the tap or do you like being the destroyer of worlds?
>>8430281
Why isn't trading citizenships legal, reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
So many anti-American cucks want to move out of the greatest country of all time
Meanwhile all I >>8430266 want in life is to BECOME an American
UNGRATEFUL FUCKS
SOMETIMES I WISH I COULD KILL ALL ANTI-AMERICANS
FUCK THAT WOULD FEEL SO GOOD
AMERICA
THE GREATEST COUNTRY OF ALL TIME
BY FAR
BY FAR
BY FAR
>>8430288
but how did he make the jump to Americans?
probably just typical Yuropoor inferiority complexes, heh
>>8430253
This. Anti-Americanism is the biggest indication of pseudility there is. It's predicated on lies, stereotypes, and half-truths.
>>8430277
dostoevsky is russian and irrelevant to this thread
>>8430293
did you even read the thread Anonymous?
>>8430292
thanks man
pls give me advice on how to become an American
my best plan right now is to find an American qt to marry for a green card
>>8430290
retarded people here tend to be american, sorry we're conditioned.
>>8430292
>Jeff Mangum Died For Your Sins
the irony
>>8430305
>American qt
good luck, if you are black you may have a chance tho
but I guess american women aren't used to see thin white guys, so who knows?
>>8430307
Americans are on average smarter than Europeans simply for them being more American than Eurotrash
>>8430295
they are talking about books written in english translated to other languages. the assumption is that everyone posting on an english-speaking forum already knows the language well enough to read literature written in english. no one mentioned knowing enough russian to read dostoevsky??
>>8430313
fuck off I was asking for advice from Americans, not Anti-American human waste like you
>>8430149
holy shit hahahaha
I don't understand all the hate
If you are more confortable with one language why not use it to read? Especially for more complex authors like Pynchon. You do lose some of the "poetry" in the text, but you gain a lot more because you actually understand more of the vocabulary used. If you are able to shitpost in english doesn't mean you can read fucking Joyc ein english and I see "translation hate" all the time in this board
Also, in the case of Pynchon, "imagery", structure and ideas are more important than puns and wordplay
>b-but my batman wayne
>>8430316
not the ones on the 4chans mrburger
>>8430305
It's easier if you have a family member who happens to be American (spouse included), or you've some employment opportunity in the US. Or you could just hop on a plane and come over. Congress is too cucked to approve of any mass deportation program. My cousin's husband is Irish and he was living in New York illegally for years before they got married.
>>8430334
It's a baitvsbait thread. Leave.
>>8430334
just look up every single word you don't know
how else are you gonna get better at English?
But I guess some people don't want to achieve native/near-native levels of fluency in English, they're probably Anti-American trash though
>>8430331
i am corrected. apologies
>>8430344
>they don't want to get better at my language the degenerates !!! :@@
>>8430340
I don't have a family member in the US, tfw
I think I'm gonna go full OkCupid/Tinder and also just talk to women in bars and clubs. Hopefully one or two vacations are enough to find someone.
Just hopping over is too risky for me, what if Trump becomes president and kicks me out and never lets me back in? I'd probably kill myself
>>8430352
English is my second language familio :^)
>>8430334
Shakespeare is easier for me in Spanish despite my English being better. Translations can often make works easier by translating the arcane or archaic language of the original into readable modern prose. But then you lose a lot of what makes the work special. Just try harder and improve your English.
>>8430149
FUCK
>>8430360
same here.
it's pretty retarded not knowing english well now since it's sorta a universal language and very dominant now. I guess some aren't as fortunate.
I was mainly arguing for the sake of arguing, it was great fun honestly, as much as online fun can go. Farewell, friend, I must depart.
>>8430373
> English dominant
You're not wrong in that it's up there, but Spanish and both Chinese languages are more spoken than English, IIRC, and neither of us speak those (I'm assuming on your part).
Just my two cents.
>>8430284
Tap water tastes like shit and I don't care about the planet
All joking aside it's because the tap water here is pretty filthy
>>8429732>czytanie przekładów
>>8430379
Spanish and Mandarin have more native speakers. English has the most speakers overall.
>>8430398
ay man pls give me some more tips
help a brotha out
>>8430379
It's not about the number of speakers.
I think an example is enough: you go on a trip to turkey, you don't know Turkish and you have to use another language; you won't use Spanish or Chinese, you will certainly use English. This is where dominance lies.
>>8430362
while this is true and I agrre, I should say that even on the case of Shakespeare the use of english isn't what makes him a great writter (talking about his plays), Bloom himself say little about his prose and focus on his character building
but even if that was the case you shouldn't discredit someone because he read an english book in another language, mostly because EVERYBODY here reads translations
another thing, most critics glorifies Dante, do you think Bloom read Dante in the original? Yet he haves lines and lines saying how amazing his imagery and structure is powerful, even when translated
so kids, remember, read and enjoy books, but aways ignore /lit/ when it comes to translations
>>8429732
zabij sb
>>8430284
>tap water
Enjoy your testosterone suppresion, goy.
>>8429732
Just came back from a beer.
A friend is dropping out of college, we discussed his future.
Also, philosophy and random stuff.
This thread makes me want to buy a fleshlight. Are they worth it senpai ?
>>8430445
but that's bottled water
get your meme right
>>8430404
https://travel.state.gov/content/visas/en/general/all-visa-categories.html
Click on immigrant visa categories. You're pretty much fucked unless you're married/engaged to a US citizen, or you have a job offer here already. You can maybe try your luck with the diversity visa lotto, but I think most European slots are already taken
>>8430418
>I should say that even on the case of Shakespeare the use of english isn't what makes him a great writter
Literally couldn't disagree more. Shakespeare's poetry is the closest literature has ever gotten to reading like music.
I do agree that if you otherwise couldn't read it, then a translation is better than nothing.
>>8430460
ok m800
I'm gonna try the lottery but the chances are only like 1/100
I'm just gonna find an American qt, there are like 40 Million young attractive American women, not even I can fuck this up
>>8430498
>Shakespeare's poetry is the closest literature has ever gotten to reading like music.
Shut the fuck up you colossal retard who knows absolutely nothing of meter and prosody
>>8430518
>40 Million young attractive American women
nigger there's like 40 million young american women in general. maybe like 10% of those are actually attractive. we're talking 4-5million attractive american women. and think about how many of them have chad bfs.
you're chances are dwindling, my friend
>>8430538
I mean, I know the terms and their definitions. I can tell you what a iamb is. I can tell you what quatrains and sestets are. What's the point you're trying to make?
>>8430498
>Shakespeare's poetry is the closest literature has ever gotten to reading like music.
wtf
Should I read or watch the expendables 3
I am fluent inenglish and my ablity to read in it is perfect, yet i still read translation because i am not a fucking cuck who hates his own language
>>8430878
>>8429732
Going to drink until I pass out of barely warded off suicidal impulses
I've been reading Kierkegaard lately because it's the only thing I can read that doesn't make me cry or break things at the moment
>>8430149
is this 4 real?
>>8431289
I've seen quite a few shops in my time. You can tell that this is the genuine article because of the pixels. As to the reality of why DFW chose to forgo life and become a cosplaying fleshlight; we may never know.