Any Pete Dexter fans in the house?
He only wrote a handful and started after getting roughed up by a bunch of punks
>>8432056
looks like a petophile
>>8432056
I have Spooner at the top of one of my to-read piles, lent to me by a professor who got a blurb from him for his own book. Sounds pretty dope.
>>8432056
I thought Spooner was awful as a novel and made a lot more sense as a raggedy memoir. I wish my copy would have acknowledged that somewhere. paperboys was good, I think I get him confused with Pete hamill.
>be me
>26
>humanities grad
>NEET for months after college
>finally find a data entry job
>work there for two years while struggling to write
>decide to risk it all and quit to finish a novel
>rent a cheap room for three months
>move back to parents' place for anothe three months
>novel gets rejected by every publisher I contact
>now working minimum wage as a waiter
>no gf
>no f
Anybody else been in a situation like this before?
I graduated summa cum lao after 3 years of personal mentoring from the grandwizard of Oxford. Now I'm set to publish my first collection (which I wrote at age 17) in the Yorker, and my next two manuscripts, sitting on the mahogany desk from which I write with a view over Shanghai Park, are lined up for paperback release by New Directions and Loeb. So no, I'v never been in a situation like this before.
>>8432007
Kind of man. Cancelled my uni applications, joined the police aged 18, realised I wanted to study further and left after training. Decided to be an engineer, did a year of maths and physics and got a job with an engineering company to save for me and my girlfriend (a large reason I didn't go to uni in the first place) to move in together. After first year of my degree I've switched to Law and me and the aforementioned girl just broke up, so I'm leaving at the end of the year and moving to Paris for 4 months in feb on what I save until then, to focus on writing. I suppose in my situation at least if the writing doesn't pan out I'll have a Law degree to fall back on, though.
>>8432007
someone should have told you that you can't be professional writer anymore if you're not rich
unfortunate
just look for a better job op, something will come up eventually
How do I get into metaphysics? I'm mainly interested in identity, theology and consciousness. I'm not interested in the eastern, hippie shit it's related to today.
>today
First of all you'll have to let go of that absolutely plebeian view of time.
Beginner metaphysics
maryjane>mushies>LSD>DMT>chinese RCs
if you haven't developed schizophrenia by that stage you should be set to begin metaphysical texts.
My sophomore year metaphysics course at Columbia made use of:
M. J. Loux, Metaphysics: A Contemporary Introduction
M. J. Loux (ed.), Metaphysics: Contemporary Readings
>consciousness
there is no such thing as consciousness, all is one.
Did I get memed or what? Stirner can be adequately reduced to "can't tell me what to do, *". How the fuck is this a revelation to anyone?
(*mom, god, ideology, feels, morals, in-group values, memes etc.)
Much wow very eye opening.
Is this like the /lit/ version of "you lost the game"? In that case well rused and thanks for wasting my time. Whatever.
You sound a little... spooked.
>>8431971
> Stirner can be adequately reduced to "can't tell me what to do"
Why dont you try reading his one book and perhaps grasping his idea of property and power.
>>8432034
Fuck you you condescending cunt.
His "idea of property and power" is pure jargon. What I "empower" myself to I can make my "property" and do with as I please and this is the single justification I need.
In other words * has no power over me.
holy fuck lit, everything I pick up is too fucking difficult. Nausea, a rebours, notes from underground, the passion according to g h, what the fuuuuuuuuuuck. I can't find a book I can actually read.
>>8431970
the leopard
the postman always rings twice
a river runs through it
i served the king of england
>>8431970
The fucking starter pack you pleb.
>>8432075
I don't wanna read boring shit.
What are some good books on democracy?
pic unrelated
>>8431945
ahahaha epin xddddd
Should be required reading. Tocqueville criticizes the death of aristocracy in American democracy and spends most of his time talking about the tyranny of the majority. If you hate reddit you should read this book.
Do you novelists/creatives have a deep feeling that what you are writing is special/that you are one day going to be a famous author or gain some recognition. I want to ask those that are writing, what your age is, how many novels/how far in are you and out of /10 how much do you believe your writing is "special" or you are destined to write something that will bring you acclaim.
>>8431889
No-one will read what I read, it won't be a special piece of writing, the mediocrity of it will upset me initially, but ultimately I'll realize great literature is written by great people, and that I am not one of them.
I write with the intention that what I write is genuine, like I've taken a part of my thoughts or feelings and put it to paper. If I feel I've accomplished that, I don't really mind anything else.
Sure it's nice to have people like my stuff, but it's not usual. I'm not very bright either, so I have trouble explaining my writing/stories - people sometimes take it as me being pretentious, as though I'm saying "oh you won't really understand"
I've always been convinced that my works are going to become massively popular one day. It might not happen this year, it could be that they only find their audience after I'm long dead, but I'm sure that when it does happen, it's going to be big. Not necessarily because my works are somehow special. I just sincerely think what I do is exciting, and do my best to get better at conveying that experience.
So, /lit/, have you read anything by the classicist Anne Carson?
>>8431861
her diary desu
Yes. She's good.
Is he one of us?
>>8431768
Are you?
Am I?
>>8431768
an untalented nobody? yes
>>8431768
How do you not notice 4chan lingo seeps out of here like a hemmorage? Any popular slang here takes root elsewhere in about a month. Gibson went nowhere.
I just want to express that just finished this a day ago, and its shit. Can see why it gonna become a Tim Burton movie.
Opinions?
>>8431740
>I just read this
>Opinions?
"lol"
>>8431741
Yeah, your right on that.
>>8431740
im reading this right now, we gonna see
>nigga was literal chad, played sports, tall, fucked grupies, blazed it, wife, etc
>bitch ass nigga still hella depressed, nigga broke his neck
What was his fucking problem, niggas?
>>8431690
I didn't know Thug Notes browsed /lit/
>>8431690
Depression, I'd guess
>>8431693
that yt channel be based
When people say reading is good for you what do they mean?
Fiction nonfiction news stories wikipedia what?
I read about occultic religions and strange beliefs and it teaches me about the world around me.
Is reading literally anything just plain good for you?
>>8431669
No, if you're reading airport fiction you're probably not getting anything out of it. But if you consistently read more difficult or at least ideologically subversive stuff on a common basis, generally your vocabulary, critical thinking skills, and overall intellectual capacity do increase, if only by virtue of synaptic engagement.
>>8431671
If 4chan intelligent to read?
It comes both ways, but who cares, just enjoy whatever u liek to read
Why is reading for plot so looked down upon?
Style is everything.
because that would be too easy
25 y/o kv here,
What does reading for plot mean?
What is the book that you most regret spending your time on?
I'm not talking obviously BS book that you just picked up and read for a couple hours... I mean a book that you actually expected to be good.
For instance, any of the books on the top 100 list or any of /lit/'s favorite meme books... what was the one you most regret spending time on?
Ulysses.
IJ was really unfulfilling
Women And Men too
>>8431540
Ulysses is great you pleb
>>8431540
Is Ulysses really that bad? This is not the first time that I have heard someone say that they didn't like it..
I've always thought that I would enjoy it but I haven't gotten to it yet. what was so bad about it.
Also, whats unfulfilling about IJ?
Is this the best version, /lit/? Do you have a different recommendation? Thanks.
>not reading the original scripture written by caesar himself
>>8431475
I don't know Latin, boss.
>>8431492
Then why would you get the expensive parallel text edition? Just get the Oxford World Classics one if there is one.