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Yo Giorgio, gimme a beat

>Then name's Francis and I'm here to preach
>Determining Yahweh's existence? Outta your reach
>Atheism, it's essentially flawed
>You motherfuckers can't know that there's no God
>Have you even read Kierkegaard?
Iterum dico:
>You faggots can't know that there's no God
>Have you even read Kierkegaard?
>Where you gonna be when the rapture call
>Yo take a leap of faith nigger or I'll bust your skull
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>>5165452
Do catholics even believe in the rapture?
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>The name's Vlad and I fucked your daughter
>The po-mo bitch screamed out 'this is water!'
>But I invented that shit, ever heard of John Shade?
>Or my tryst with a nymph in a moon-lit glade?
>Like a butterfly's wings I've come to open girl's thighs
>Watch out cunts, don't get hurt by my size
>Cos I'm the meanest biggest impaler you ever heard of
>That's right kids, here comes daddy nabokov

The Catholic Reaction m8s, it's happening.

>greatest antidote to a Postmodern "there is no truth" degenerate world is a Church that has claimed to have the infallible truth for 2000 yrs
>deep theology, philosophy, metaphysics
>beautiful art
>edifying spirituality
>ancient traditions that give your life a sense of meaning/purpose, guidelines for raising a good family, etc.
>if there is any absolute truth, these guys probably have the best claim to it

feel free to add; I know there's much more but those are the basic ones.

this is happening

>Satan mad
>Protestants jelly
>Atheists euphoric
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OP here, one of my favourite passage from the Bible, from the Book of Wisdom (Protestants consider this book apocryphal):

[13] For God made not death, neither hath he pleasure in the destruction of the living. [14] For he created all things that they might be: and he made the nations of the earth for health: and there is no poison of destruction in them, nor kingdom of hell upon the earth. [15] For justice is perpetual and immortal.

[16] But the wicked with works and words have called it to them: and esteeming it a friend have fallen away, and have made a covenant with it: because they are worthy to be of the part thereof.

[1] For they have said, reasoning with themselves, but not right: The time of our life is short and tedious, and in the end of a man there is no remedy, and no man hath been known to have returned from hell: [2] For we are born of nothing, and after this we shall be as if we had not been: for the breath in our nostrils is smoke: and speech a spark to move our heart, [3] Which being put out, our body shall be ashes, and our spirit shall be poured abroad as soft air, and our life shall pass away as the trace of a cloud, and shall be dispersed as a mist, which is driven away by the beams of the sun, and overpowered with the heat thereof: [4] And our name in time shall be forgotten, and no man shall have any remembrance of our works. [5] For our time is as the passing of a shadow, and there is no going back of our end: for it is fast sealed, and no man returneth.

[6] Come therefore, and let us enjoy the good things that are present, and let us speedily use the creatures as in youth. [7] Let us fill ourselves with costly wine, and ointments: and let not the flower of the time pass by us. [8] Let us crown ourselves with roses, before they be withered: let no meadow escape our riot. [9] Let none of us go without his part in luxury: let us everywhere leave tokens of joy: for this is our portion, and this our lot. [10] Let us oppress the poor just man, and not spare the widow, nor honour the ancient grey hairs of the aged.

[11] But let our strength be the law of justice: for that which is feeble, is found to be nothing worth. [12] Let us therefore lie in wait for the just, because he is not for our turn, and he is contrary to our doings, and upbraideth us with transgressions of the law, and divulgeth against us the sins of our way of life. [13] He boasteth that he hath the knowledge of God, and calleth himself the son of God. [14] He is become a censurer of our thoughts. [15] He is grievous unto us, even to behold: for his life is not like other men' s, and his ways are very different.
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>>5151114
[16] We are esteemed by him as triflers, and he abstaineth from our ways as from filthiness, and he preferreth the latter end of the just, and glorieth that he hath God for his father. [17] Let us see then if his words be true, and let us prove what shall happen to him, and we shall know what his end shall be. [18] For if he be the true son of God, he will defend him, and will deliver him from the hands of his enemies. [19] Let us examine him by outrages and tortures, that we may know his meekness and try his patience. [20] Let us condemn him to a most shameful death: for there shall be respect had unto him by his words.

[21] These things they thought, and were deceived: for their own malice blinded them. [22] And they knew not the secrets of God, nor hoped for the wages of justice, nor esteemed the honour of holy souls. [23] For God created man incorruptible, and to the image of his own likeness he made him. [24] But by the envy of the devil, death came into the world: [25] And they follow him that are of his side.

[1] But the souls of the just are in the hand of God, and the torment of death shall not touch them. [2] In the sight of the unwise they seemed to die: and their departure was taken for misery: [3] And their going away from us, for utter destruction: but they are in peace. [4] And though in the sight of men they suffered torments, their hope is full of immortality. [5] Afflicted in few things, in many they shall be well rewarded: because God hath tried them, and found them worthy of himself.
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The thing is that postmodern assertion that there is no truth already encompasses the Catholic claim to truth. Resurgence and reaction are therefore impossible. Also I'm a fucking homo faggot who loves to suck dick and if being a giant fucking cock gobbling homo goes against infallible truth, then I want to be fallible and wrong.

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Why has science fiction declined so much over the past 2 decades?
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Because its focus has strayed away from speculation and towards Star Wars. Basically, sci-fi/fantasy is now elf-fantasy/vulcan-fantasy

That said, there are still good sci fi authors. They've just been outnumbered by the bad ones.
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>>5124355
why is she so hot

also does the culture series count as good sci-fi?
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>>5124365

Who are the good moderns?

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I want to read something erotic and/or romantic. What does /lit/ recommend?
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>>5133956

why not just be erotic and romantic with your gf? trust me it's much more satisfying and fulfilling
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De Sade
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>>5133956
Jitterbug perfume

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Write a character description of yourself.
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He sat in a miasma of burger smell and wondered how much of it was his own. He was fondling his penis through gray boxers without any clear intent to masturbate, and his beard itched from not showering in several days. He should really start studying for that exam, he thought to himself, but he had been meaning to mod up a Baldur's Gate install for weeks.

He was a total piece of shit. But it had gone on so long that it kind of worked. He would masturbate, he decided.
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>>5045732
Cheers, man. Now I don't have to write my own.
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That is one uneven jaw m8.

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What is the most bleak, nihilistic, melancholy book you have ever read or have heard of? Looking for non fiction. Nothing religious please. Maximum suffering please.
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No Longer Human by Dazai Osamu is a terrific novel and real soul-crusher. You should check it out.
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>>4990442
I heard Nausea by Jean-Paul Sartre actually makes you nauseous, or at least very depressed. One guy said he stopped reading halfway through because he didn't want to have his mood ruined by the book.

I haven't read it though, so this probably is a shitty recommendation.
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The best I've found, in terms of nonfiction, has been Ligotti's The Conspiracy Against the Human Race, and Cioran's On the Heights of Despair.

However, I find myself wanting something harder than these. Ligotti's prose is too clinical and analytical. Cioran is too adolescent "omg le despair". I want something that will destroy me.

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>in french lit class
>Teacher talks about surrealism
>"you know the major model of the surrealists was Sade, he's admired for his bravery to publish his work in such times when church had great power on society"
>"his work shows that all our morality is just a relative social construct, and that we're only being shocked because of our uniform way of thinking"
>all class goes into masturbation mode, spiting shitload of weak parallels and interpretations that they state as facts
>decide to react myself
>"Are we seriously considering Sade as a legit artist ? The thing about relativity of morals is just some made up bullshit put in prefaces to sell books, and the fact that surrealists admire him is comparable to an edgy teenager saying his role model is hitler to appear subversive. Sade had fetishes and wrote pornography for the ones like him, is there anything of reflexion in the 120 days of sodom beside people having sex in a billion different manners ?"
>everyone looks kinda angrily at me
>teacher stays silent for 20sec before answering
>anon, you have to read beyond the surface, a book has several layers..."
>she then goes in a 15 min speech to tell me I'm wrong

I knew I should have chosen economy
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>>4951518

Seems like you're mad people have different opinions.

Also,

>coming to 4chan to vent your frustration

Are you 12?
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>>4951525
>Being this much of a faggot

What is happening to this website
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Congrats, op.

You are now the Elliot Rogers of that class because you couldnt suppress your opinions

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So if there is no free will how can we be responsible for our sins?
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We can't
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We aren't in ethical terms. In practical, societal, political terms we are. At least until society is overhauled.
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>>4945805
So then by what right does God have to condemn us to hell?

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Hi /lit/ I'm looking for some novels that capture the quiet mundanity of life like the films of Yasujir? Ozu and Eric Rohmer

I've tried Henry James, George Eliot, Thomas Hardy, and Jane Austen. Hardy came closest but he Tess and Jude the Obscure were a little too heavy-handed for my tastes,
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JL Carr - A Month in the Country
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>>4949438
>quiet mundanity of life

Knausgaard maybe?
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>>4949438
The Red Pony by Steinbeck, maybe?

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Does /lit/ have a quintessential list?
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If by quintessential you mean 'read these and you're halfway up to speed' than not really. This would be the closest thing.
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>>4950750
So if you graduate from High School, you're already halfway there?
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>>4950710
Yes, the highschool curriculum

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