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>>8432957

I posted a picture of The Edge from U2 here the other day. He's wearing a cowboy hat and a smirk and a shirt that says something like 'Mr. The Edge." It was in a thread about The Underground Railroad by Colson Whitehead if I remember correctly. Tht image would be pretty much my response to this here, and then the text box would say 'low number/10 I responded.'

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>But since memes like cuck have apparently broken mainstream, and fucking /pol/ is a shade away from being mentioned directly in the National Review.

How did a containment board generate enough momentum to propel an outsider like Trump to within spitting distance of the Presidency?

Moot has much to answer for.

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>>8433061
oh pol's a pretty minor player I think, at least on the surface level

but they basically provided reddit's trump board with their vocabulary and memetic sensibilities

also the SPLC has said that pol's rhetorical style has pretty much been fully emulated by all the lesser white nationalist websites---shit is pretty crazy but also very funny as well I think

>>8432973
I have no idea what you are saying

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>philosopher
>her

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>>8432965
>being this delusional

who is

>Lou Salome
>Judith Butler
>Sonja Buckel
>Marta Nussbaum
>Simone de Beauvoir
>Hannah Arendt

????

>>8432993
>who is

Yeah, exactly ;P

Simone Weil is my philosofu tho

>>8432926
He misunderstands Heraclitus.

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>>8433020
this.

better move on to Hegel and Nietzsche

Op Plato is a character who stands up to repeated readings and interpretations over a lifetime. I can do no better.

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someone is going to suggest this book

you should ignore that person

>>8432912
> endorsed by GRRM
O-okay anon...

Mistborn trilogy

I wanted to be a writer for my entire youth, but now that I've had some lucky break where I apparently have the ability to put real ideas to real paper, I look back at the phase before I had this ability, and I feel real fear. Because if I hadn't had whatever epiphany or awakening it was, I would have just been an idealess retard trying to write for the sake of writing, forever.

Once you have real ideas, you're fine. It can be shit that you know no one has never said before, or some alternative perspective on an issue that makes you want to beat people over the head with it when they say the orthodox perspective. Or it can be some realist talent for seeing into the hearts of things, or some Coleridgian thing for capturing aporias. All kinds of poetic talent and philosophical insight exist. But you kind of either have that or you don't.

Once you do, you should develop it like it's going to die any second. Seriously, live in constant terror that your ideas are going to evaporate, because they will. Get your shit out there. Do all the research you need to do. You can write a bad version of something now and rewrite it when you're 30.

Some random pieces of advice:

Don't listen to anyone's critique about prose, or even about content. Shitty stylists exist and can still be good, but more importantly, shitty critics are the 99%. And the vast majority of critics on a board like /lit/ are know-nothing retards who just go "Hmmm.. Not enough adjectives.." because they want to feel like a smart dude with real opinions by affecting what they think are the mannerisms of one. If you have shit you want to say, say it.

Do your research ASAP because I guarantee you all your ideas are entry-level, bland and unshaped, and have already been done by masters. But if you can see past that failure, you will take the seed of "this is a real idea!" and develop it into something good.

>You ask whether your verses are any good. You ask me. You have asked others before this. You send them to magazines. You compare them with other poems, and you are upset when certain editors reject your work. Now (since you have said you want my advice) I beg you to stop doing that sort of thing. You are looking outside, and that is what you should most avoid right now. No one can advise or help you - no one. There is only one thing you should do. Go into yourself. Find out the reason that commands you to write; see whether it has spread its roots into the very depths of your heart; confess to yourself whether you would have to die if you were forbidden to write. This most of all: ask yourself in the most silent hour of your night: must I write? Dig into yourself for a deep answer. And if this answer rings out in assent, if you meet this solemn question with a strong, simple "I must", then build your life in accordance with this necessity; your whole life, even into its humblest and most indifferent hour, must become a sign and witness to this impulse.

>>8432842
Not exactly succinct, sorry.

Also: The chances that you will be successful as a writer are not only slim to nil, but you almost don't want to be successful as a writer, because today that means you're writing Chuck Paluhniuk Girl With the Dragon Tattoo Oprah book club shit or that you're writing war memoirs, cook books, or self-help.

That's very valuable info, thank you. My current field is primary research in a science lab, so the researching portion comes naturally and easily. My imagination is also a big driver in my daily life; I'm usually daydreaming about other things, hence why this current path is not for me I'm finding out. The ideas I have are indeed somewhat novel, or at least a new take on established themes like you said.

I've been told by others I have a way with words, both verbal and written. I would like to think some innate potential is there, but like i said until June I had never even thought about trying to write in this capacity, so I have no hard practice or background aside from some scientific papers.

Shit if you're over 19 and read more than your high school assigned reading. Could have been a decent novella with the first 100 pages and the last 50. As is, it's just an edgy unrefined "everyone sucks except me" worldview pumped out over the same abbott and costello routine repeaded ad nauseum.

>>8432863
>uses the word edgy
>uses the word repeaded

Pleb detected

>>8432873
Oh no I made a typo, I guess the book isn't juvenile tryhard shit anymore.

>>8432731
Is this Tagore?

>>8432731
you've fallen for a meme
this is just eastern fetishism
he can't be translated and even what isn't translated is reportedly not very good

>>8432749
>he can't be translated
Didn't he write at least some stuff in English?

>>8432725
He was too busy pozzing sissy neg holes to give a fuck

>>8432725
Did Allan Bloom have no shame when he was dying of AIDS? Did Saul Bellow comment on it at all?

>>8432725

He was probably too busy swallowing his words upon realizing that sex is a little more black and white than he liked to think.

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I imagine everyone in classical literature as anime characters.

This is what Raskolnikov looked like for me

You plebs actually visualize the characters? Go watch a movie.

>>8432622
Light is the nip interpretation.of Raskolnikov. Not L.

Incredible finds for a thrift store. Really beats the literal walls of Twilight and 50 Shades of Grey

>>8432568
4/10

Freshman-year pleb, nothing of lasting value

>>8432593
Wait I didn't notice the Simulacra. That one has sum lasting value. Reassessment: 4.5/10

I wish I could discuss it with you but I've read it ten years ago and don't remember much of it.
Why is my memory so shit?

All I remember is that I enjoyed it and that it was set in a military fort in the desert.

>>8432544
It's definitely something I'm going to re-read. I think if I channel these feelings of anxiety and despair into something productive I might not have to die feeling like live is a complete waste.

how long dis

Fuck dude, lurk more.

But okay.

High Fidelity by Nick Hornby.

>>8432530
Either/or will be too difficult for you right now

I found it beneficial to read some of the /lit/ starter pack. It's comprised of things that many people on here have read and will be able to recommend things based of off what you liked.

>>8432500

I imagine for the same reason you see Stephen King books in every thrift store and used book store over here. He's read a lot, but a lot of people know he's not really worth treasuring so he's easy to get rid of.

I think some books were memes never destined to become classics.

Ian Rankin too

>he hasn't completed his challenge yet
hoo boy

>>8432498
No, because I choose very difficult books and I never complete them. I've completed 7 books this year, a couple of them were cake walks. I found The Stranger extremely easy, I didn't have much trouble with the metamorphosis as well. Neither did I with a few of the other books I read.

>>8432503
>Stranger
>Metamorphosis
>Two books everyone has read by 16

Forbidden Colours, the japanese title literally means homosex

>>8432480
>Only ripped samurais can write
/lit/ btfo

>>8432552
But he could write before he was ripped, faggot-kun.