Hey guys do you have some amazing classics that are good to read? And i mean by that books that relly are worth reading and that make you think. Thanks
everything dostoyevski
>>8434079
catcher in the rye
as i lay dying
ritual by nooteboom
>>8434079
marcus aurelius' "meditations"
Hello friends, do you have any good readings on tenderness?
Send it this way please.
From Barthes 'A Lover's Discourse':
"There is not only need for tenderness, there is also need to be tender for the other: we shut ourselves up in a mutual kindness, we mother each other reciprocally; we return to the root of all relations, where need and desire join. The tender gesture says: ask me anything that can put your body to sleep, but also do not forget that I desire you--a little, lightly, without trying to seize anything right away.
Sexual pleasure is not metonymic: once taken, it is cut off: it was the Feast, always terminated and instituted only by a temporary, supervised lifting of the prohibition. Tenderness, on the contrary, is nothing but an infinite, insatiable metonymy; the gesture, the episode of tenderness (the delicious harmony of an evening) can only be interrupted with laceration: everything seems called into question once again: return of rhythm--vritti--disappearance of nirvana."
>>8434068
One of the most tender passages ive ever read has little to do with love but on old age. Cicero On Old Age is like a soothing hand comforting you on your inevitable fate, and assuring you that it wont be that bad if you take it with the right attitude. I watch my grandfather sit and stare at fox news as he withers away and cannot but see that cicero was completely right.
>>8434078
Thank you, i'll be sure to give that a read
works of love
What's the most /r9k/ tier book?
>>8434018
book of disquiet obviously
>>8434018
Book of Disquiet or any Sabato book
>>8434018
50 shades of grey
HOLY SHIT
>>8433999
Wow there satan that guy from wikileaks is surely getting old lol
How did he get the edgy atheist look down so well?
He has nothing worth reading but dem digits.
Lol, "Ecce Homo" by Nietzsche is listed as an autobiography
http://4chanlit.wikia.com/wiki/Recommended_Reading/Non-fiction
Okay?
>>8434001
it was always misunderstood as an autobiographical standpoint, it isnĀ“t by the way, nietzsche describes his own morals and way of life and as a part of his own life reflects on his own work, but not in an autobiographical way, how he became what he is.
>>8433991
>ecce homo
>the gay science
Did Nietzsche emulate more than just virtue from the Greeks?
Do you agree?
When is it appropriate to use them?
>>8433969
When they're in parentheses(!)
But in all honesty, essentially never.
>>8433969
I don't agree, at all. Exclamation points definitely have their place in writing.
They're an important tool for fleshing out characters, in dialogue, especially.
It's just like the Hemingway meme about adverbs (or was it Orwell?)
Adverbs and exclamation points are not the problem. People who don't know how and when to use them are. So instead of pointing out the best way to use them, they just decide to disregard them without firther consideration. Of course, that's just stylistic preference, a matter of taste if you will; but what is useful for someone may not be useful for another person.
Novels about an unseen christ-like figure. Sort of an every day messiah, but on a small scale. A man who's nice to his wife, even though he's having a horrible day himself, because someone ate his Hershey's bar.
^ that kind of thing
Prayer for Owen Meany
how to be good - nick hornby
Fellowship of the Ring's Tom Bombadil
Holy shit this was absolutely based. Why didn't you tell me /lit/?
>dat Judge
>dat Toadvine'
>dat everything
>>8433892
You gotta learn how to read between the memes.
man do u have anything worthwhile to start a discussion about or is this just clutter
>>8433910
Sure. Did anybody else find McCarthy's descriptions of scenery to be a bit overwrought? I know that's half the point but after the fifth description of how shadow's stretch across the ground it gets a bit much.
Hey guys, I need to read Siddhartha before the end of next week, so not much time at all.
I don't have a physical book and was trying to read it online and even tried an audio book.
The book bored me to death and some shit was weird or difficult to understand.
How can I read the book?! It literally bored me to death, I don't like it at all.
What are some things that I can do? Literally not even half way through The Son Of The Brahman section.
Gonna get tested and asked a bunch of questions about the book.
Should I just read many summaries or some shit? Please help.
>>8433871
You could try to get good.
I read that book make in high school, it's not that hard.
>>8433877
What?
Just use sparknotes or something
Just finished this, what did you guys take from it?
>>8433854
you start.
gregor couldn't get out of bed...
such is life
It's about shame and letting down your family
if not, what should i read instead?
It's a good book. Probably the best Pynchon-lite book. It's still a Pynchon-lite book, though.
The movie was also pretty great, probably one of the better films of 2014.
>>8433846
is x even worth the read?
if not, what should i read instead?
it's like his 3rd worst book. then vineland then bleeding edge. so read everything before that you fucking retard. or read it. I don't give a shit.
You probably daydream about being a successful author.
Describe that daydream. What would be your subject matter? What would the names of your novels be?
>>8433841
>subject matter
Subjectivity of historical accounts, clash of morality and ethics, separation of academia and civilized world from lower classes, death of the rural community, and in addition just mash anything Faulkner with anything Marquez
>names
In a trilogy:
Independenta
Quadnaglia
The User
>>8433841
i wouldn't publish novels, i would publish poetry.
I write it every single day. because i need to.
i've thought about publication, although i am not sure how i feel about it: is it selfish? if so, is that okay? what would really be my reasons for publishing? what would it accomplish? would i be okay with simply publishing, regardless of whether or not it was successful? etc etc.
poetry is what my inner life is about but i'm forced to live an existence focused on everything else. how many others endure the same?
If /lit/ has any wisdom to impart i would be grateful.
i have no idea what to do desu
>>8433841
Coming of Age
>half the characters serve no purpose at all
>anecdotes and pages-long rants that don't lead anywhere (Hippolit)
>best moments in the novel are what is spoken about, not what is seen (Liev talking about a man about to be beheaded in France. I want to read THAT book, not this one)
>subplot that do not lead anywhere (the mystery of Liev's father)
>the second part is 85% filler (after Parfen tries to kill Liev, everything after is filler)
>the ending is universally hated (and for good motive)
The real Idiot is who spent so much time reading this.
>>8433836
>The real Idiot is who spent so much time reading this.
bravo
>>8433836
Demons was worse
>>8434695
Kirilov's suicide and the At Tokhin's chapter though
I've heard very much about it, as it is seen as a classic. What's so great about it?
>>8433834
It's style is impeccably gorgeous, hilarious, ironic, and horrifying all at once; it's the most famous, accessible and also one of the best transgressive novels ever.
>>8433834
I could relate to Humbert
I found it interesting that Humbert's obsession ,once fuffilled,turns into dullness and apathy. Too often what we want in life are built from gossamer walls of wish fulfilment and are whisked away by the reality of attainment.
What's some litrachure that the middle-class will never understand? Provide a sentence detailing why if possible.
>>8433711
Well, my novella has been read by many people in the middle-class and none of them understand it. One even asked me to leave his house immediately.
>>8433742
You're the guy who wrote Agony in Pink?!?!
Well, first tell us what you mean.
"The middle class will never understand" - collectively or individually? There will always be a middle class person who will understand whatever. But as a whole, not so...