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>DUDE YOUR LITTLE BORING LIFE IS JUST AS GREAT AS THE LIFE OF ALL THOSE GREAT MEN FROM THE CLASSICS
>DUDE STREAM OF CONSCIOUSNESS LMAO
Is that really it? lol, what a joke
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so, you have read the synopsis
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>>8630676
if i read ulysses without any background knowledge of the book whatsoever, i would not have make the connection to the Odyssey
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>>8630716
The connection with the Odyssey isnt really that important
Only high iq readers get what the book is really about, did you?

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what do you think of doug stanhope's comedy? anyone else read digging up mother?

>inb4 i don't know
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>>8630665
You're on the literature board

sage and report
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It's pretty good, I enjoyed it a lot. It's got one of the best chapter intros I've ever seen, too.
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>>8630665
he seems to be trying too hard to be edgy. mainly in his comedy but also in his performing in a libertarian party shirt and smoking on stage. now he dresses like some super sleazy 70s porn director.

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/lit/ I need some help

Since last year I wanted to write a story about a someone who, in an amok rage, murdered someone he knew and hated. He feels guilty and hides the body. Soon, as the plot develops, he is forced to kill more and more, making him develop a taste for murder.

But I have no idea about how to define the plot properly.

Why did he hate the first guy he murdered?
What did the guy make that made him mad enough to murder him?
What forced him to continue killing?
How will the plot end?

If you answer these questions, no matter how vague, I'll be forever thankful to you.
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What the fuck? Are you asking /lit/ to completely write a story that you're writing?

Sounds like the most basic murder plot... How do you have ZERO creativity?
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>>8630672
Yes it's a really basic plot. I could think of parts of the plot, but never as a whole, and it was always horrible. Although I find it pretty easy to create a main plot from nothing, I really can't develop it well. All my ideas sound like shit
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>>8630658

>Why did he hate the first guy he murdered?
He slept with his wife. On Christmas eve. While she was wrapping his presents.
>What forced him to continue killing?
He is a police officer, and his fellow detectives get too close to the truth.
>How will the plot end?
It was just a futuristic VR training simulation. On Mars.

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Would Bazarov be an atheist?
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>>8630604
That goes without saying
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>>8630604
Bazarov -was- an atheist, anon.
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>>8630612
Then why was religion barely mentioned at all?
>>8630617
Yes, meant *'would have been' or 'was'

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Should dead characters remain dead? What do you think of resurrection in stories? Except where symbolic, do you feel like it is a sign of shitty writing? If context matters, think a Star-Wars-esque sci-fi story.
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>think a Star-Wars-esque sci-fi story.

I would rather not think that
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If that's even a valid question you're not talking about literature you're talking about genreshit.
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>>8630603

This is the only board to discuss books, alright?

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Have any of you even heard/read "It's arlight ma (I'm only bleeding)" ?

This man was by far one of the greatest american poets, no question. No Whitman, no Melville, but surely a match for good ol' Pinecone and Dellilo

>inb4 memes
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Darkness at the break of noon
Shadows even the silver spoon
The handmade blade, the child's balloon
Eclipses both the sun and moon
To understand you know too soon
There is no sense in trying.

Pointed threats, they bluff with scorn
Suicide remarks are torn
From the fools gold mouthpiece
The hollow horn plays wasted words
Proved to warn
That he not busy being born
Is busy dying.

Temptation's page flies out the door
You follow, find yourself at war
Watch waterfalls of pity roar
You feel to moan but unlike before
You discover
That you'd just be
One more person crying.

So don't fear if you hear
A foreign sound to you ear
It's alright, Ma, I'm only sighing.

As some warn victory, some downfall
Private reasons great or small
Can be seen in the eyes of those that call
To make all that should be killed to crawl
While others say don't hate nothing at all
Except hatred.

Disillusioned words like bullets bark
As human gods aim for their marks
Made everything from toy guns that sparks
To flesh-colored Christs that glow in the dark
It's easy to see without looking too far
That not much
Is really sacred.

While preachers preach of evil fates
Teachers teach that knowledge waits
Can lead to hundred-dollar plates
Goodness hides behind its gates
But even the President of the United States
Sometimes must have
To stand naked.

An' though the rules of the road have been lodged
It's only people's games that you got to dodge
And it's alright, Ma, I can make it.

Advertising signs that con you
Into thinking you're the one
That can do what's never been done
That can win what's never been won
Meantime life outside goes on
All around you.

You loose yourself, you reappear
You suddenly find you got nothing to fear
Alone you stand without nobody near
When a trembling distant voice, unclear
Startles your sleeping ears to hear
That somebody thinks
They really found you.

A question in your nerves is lit
Yet you know there is no answer fit to satisfy
Insure you not to quit
To keep it in your mind and not forget
That it is not he or she or them or it
That you belong to.

Although the masters make the rules
For the wise men and the fools
I got nothing, Ma, to live up to.

For them that must obey authority
That they do not respect in any degree
Who despite their jobs, their destinies
Speak jealously of them that are free
Cultivate their flowers to be
Nothing more than something
They invest in.

While some on principles baptized
To strict party platforms ties
Social clubs in drag disguise
Outsiders they can freely criticize
Tell nothing except who to idolize
And then say God Bless him.

(1/2)
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>>8630571
While one who sings with his tongue on fire
Gargles in the rat race choir
Bent out of shape from society's pliers
Cares not to come up any higher
But rather get you down in the hole
That he's in.

But I mean no harm nor put fault
On anyone that lives in a vault
But it's alright, Ma, if I can't please him.

Old lady judges, watch people in pairs
Limited in sex, they dare
To push fake morals, insult and stare
While money doesn't talk, it swears
Obscenity, who really cares
Propaganda, all is phony.

While them that defend what they cannot see
With a killer's pride, security
It blows the minds most bitterly
For them that think death's honesty
Won't fall upon them naturally
Life sometimes
Must get lonely.

My eyes collide head-on with stuffed graveyards
False gods, I scuff
At pettiness which plays so rough
Walk upside-down inside handcuffs
Kick my legs to crash it off
Say okay, I have had enough
What else can you show me ?

And if my thought-dreams could been seen
They'd probably put my head in a guillotine
But it's alright, Ma, it's life, and life only.

(2/2)

http://lookingforlyrics.org/catalog/Bob%20Dylan-It's%20Alright,%20Ma%20(I'm%20Only%20Bleeding)/
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>>8630571
God-tier song writer.

Not a poet, though.

Also stop comparing him to memechon and Delillo, totally different mediums.

Also,
WHY THE FUVK DONT YOU PUT THIS IN THE TEN OTHER DYLAN THREADS??????,???????

safe and report

ITT: The scariest books and stories you've ever read.

inb4 House of Leaves, Shirley Jackson
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>>8630522
>books
>scary

Are you a gay
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>>8630534

/lit/
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>>8630534
Yes

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Is there any argument for ethics and morality?

I completely despise nihilists who don't follow any ethics and believe in nothing. But I don't see any reason to do good to others, besides doing it for your own happiness. For example, I treat my friends well, so they will continue to be my friends, therefore making me enjoy our conversations for longer. But if I realize that doing good to someone won't make me happier, than I won't do it.
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>>8630483
Social contract theory

Or the whole God thing

Pick your poison
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Pic reminds me of this japanese-enthusiast girl I see on the bus sometimes. I think she was smiling at me, sometimes looking at me briefly, but I didn't make a point of showing she'd caught my attention. Should I talk to her next time, "out of nowhere", or is that morally inadequate?
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>>8630489
>Social contract theory
Literally what I said, do good to others if it does good to you. Do not do bad things or you go to jail.

>Religion
Interesting, but doesn't count

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Language isn't real you tards. After reading Derrida and Foucault, I've concluded that all words are an illusion to convey concepts verbally. Fretting about the details of the wording in my argument proves that you're insecure.
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what
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>>8630464
Please sage when responding to shitposts
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>in my first tutorial for "Government and Politics of the Middle East"
>tutor is an Italian post-structuralist Foucault fan
>spends a good fifteen minutes explaining that all discourse is compromised by "where you come from"
>basically if you're a white man or even just born in the West you're automatically disqualified
>1/3rd of the class are white and about 2/3rds are westerners
>I put my hand up and ask why we're even discussing anything at all
>also both her and Foucault are damned by their own rules as white Europeans
>she ignores me and restricts me from speaking for the rest of the class
>she is marking my fucking essays
>mfw I have to swallow this PoMo bullshit to have a chance at getting a good degree

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I'm interested in Voltaire, where should Istart?
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>>8630432
With his refutation of the Holy Roman Empire.
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>>8630432
>Zadig
>Candide
>Treatise on Tolerance
>Philosophical Dictionary
>Letters concerning the English nation
Most of his other works are irrelevant.

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In Good Will Hunting when Will list his soul mates as: "Shakespeare, Nietzsche, Frost, O'Conner, Kant, Pope, Locke", who is O'Conner, Kant, and Pope? Really wanna read their work.
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>>8630402
alexander pope
Immanuel Kant
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>>8630416
Flannery O'Connor?
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Prob flannery o'connor, although she's a weird fit with the rest

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The golden fang conspiracy wrapped around my head like a kite on a windy day
I still don't know the boards's role in the conspiracy or why Coy had to stay there specifically
I figured the league of dentists were a spook for the cartel, a front for their money or something.
A lot of things got past me, and I felt like that was unavoidable, but one thing i'm certain of is the ending was goddamn comfy.
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>>8630400
>the ending was goddamn comfy
u wut m9

wat was the deal with the nixon nux tho
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>>8630409
>u wut m9
At the end doc is sitting in a caravan, thinking about the fog. He's daydreaming, fantasizing about what he's going to do next, there's something comfy in that last paragraph.
>nixon nux(bux?)
I guess they were intending to flood the market with nixon bills, but that doesn't make sense because they're obviously counterfeit.
The only thing I can think of (and it sounds crazy) is that nixon was going to declare himself dictator, and had already created a new form of currency for his new state.
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The point is for you not to know.

I just read this, was it good?
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every time soprano posts in chat i physically cringe and im just hoping spirit's worthless autistic ass does something good for once and bans her
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I see you're developing new linguistic habits. A commodity for awkward minds; you speak, and then you give the other an indication of what he's supposed to ask, eliminating the possibility of clueless silence.

Was it good?
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>>8630441
>and then you give the other an indication of what he's supposed to ask
I didn't intend that, I legitimately want to know if what I just read was good or not.
I don't want to bring it up in a conversation and say it was good and then seem like an idiot for liking something bad.

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Sup /lit/, new around these parts.

I've been rereading my favorite children's books, A Series of Unfortunate Events, and I have to say I'm enjoying them quite a lot.

Can we have a discussion?
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>>8630383
This is a topic belongs on one of the containment boards for low IQ manchildren e.g. /tv/, /pol/, /co/, /b/.

Please do not post here again.
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>>8630405
I see Harry Potter threads here as well as those boards.

"Please do not post here again."
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>>8630383
I want to fuck Violet.

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Thoughts on this?
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>italian cities
never again
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It's shit.
Essential slutcore.
Pseudophilosophy.
Good only if you like endless meaningless ramblings about love and the smell of pussy.
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>>8630381
gave it a shot, left it unfinished after 40 pages in
one of the few books i don't regret not finishing

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