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Why didn't pic related work out? A lot of people will say the movies played it up, but after rereading the books recently, I still think this made the most sense.
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>>8627110
of course it makes the most sense

the fuck does JK know about organic storytelling
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>>8627110
Didn't it work out fine for both?
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>>8627116
No I meant in terms of the two of them ending up with each other instead of each of them ending up with a member of the Red Menace.

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This man in my country, he is nothing 。
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>>8626944
Thanks for letting us know nothing
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>>8626944

>Implying you're Japanese
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>>8626964
nobel nippon cultural the しティ カミ very laughed

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What would he hate and love of the world circa 2016?
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>>8626912
The ressentiment losers of the alt right

Now fuck off, you're on the literature board

sage and report
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Love:
Food
Music
Movies
Internet
Porn
Pokemon

Hate:
Feminists
SJWs
CNN
Reality Television
BLM
Republicans
Democrats
Muslims
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>>8626912
He'd probably write vague tweets about it and leave things undecided just like he did before.

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This is just like one of my Japanese animes
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>>8626904
Kill yourself, anime pedo autistic scum

Imagine having a son who watches anime
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>>8626908
I'd watch it with him and enlighten him on classic anime series.
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>>8626908
wow mean
>>8626904
jack vance is a hack

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Which JG Ballard book would you suggest reading first? A bunch of my different interests keep leading me to this author and I have decided it is time to read something of his. I've considered Atrocity Exhibition (ofc...) as well as Crash. I watched High Rise and liked it, but I am more interested in style atm than narrative and that sounds like a more straight-forward story than he usually does, but I might be mistaken.

What's your favorite of his books?
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Actually, maybe not Crash after seeing this trailer....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNi80K5sTco
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High-Rise is a crash course in Ballard so I typically recommend that to the curious. Crash would work too.
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>>8626902
I'll definitely consider High-Rise then. Is the book v. of Crash as cheesy as this trailer makes it seem? >>8626898
It's a 90s movie trailer so maybe it's just a product of the times, but even the philosophy of "Crashing is sexual release" sounds realy dumb.

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Just finished this and would love to have a discussion. Still chewing on it so would love input.
What do you think Dostoevsky was trying to communicate about consciousness? It seems to me that the protagonist is so quick to label everyone with mistrust that he doesn't realize how much of people mistreating him is entirely his own fault. He is so concerned with his theory of what consciousness is and what it truly means "to have advantage" that he misses every opportunity to solve his own issues. Obviously he's very lonely and the deeper he digs into himself the more he finds justification for his own brutishness which consequentially makes him even more brutish. The character is hard to pin down because of how full of contradictions he is. Its worth noting that on the very first page he notes that he needs a doctor but refuses to see one out of spite, literally harming himself even though he knows the spite won't do any good. He is so quick to convince himself that hes a terrible person that he ruins numerous chances where he could prove himself honorable by making others see him as awful.
What do you guys think though?
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>>8626867
Literally /r9k/ the book.

The main character is LITERALLY identical to those that frequent the /r9k/ board.

People who browse /r9k/ are LITERALLY the underground man.

They are exactly alike
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>>8626867
OP here, this is the translation i read
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>>8626874
I know this is a meme but you would have to be absolutely incapable of critical thought if you think the underground man is reminiscent of r9k in any way past surface level.

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>mfw studying german and spanish using tools and guidelines I see posted here all the time like immersion, Anki, vocabulary before grammar, frequency dictionaries, Lingoes, reading the same text in two languages simultaneously, etc
>mfw making progress for the first time in my life despite this being my third attempt at picking up a new language

I didn't see a languages thread so I just wanted to say how surprised I am. This could legit be the first time a 4chan-approved technique has ever worked for me.
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>>8626865
Good on you OP doing the same thing with french
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>>8626865
Could you share some of these resources please?
I'm trying to learn Russian and French, but can't seem to understand either of them at all no matter what approach I take towards them.
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>>8626865
>>8626895
OP can you enlighten us on these guidelines that you were exposed to? Would appreciate it greatly.

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What are some good comfy yet depressing books for the winter? What is the book version of pic related?
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>>8626856
American football is smiths tier. I suggest you kindly leave and ask tumblr instead.
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>>8626862
Thanks for the input, I'll take that to heart.
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>>8627000
don't listen to them anon. American Football is GOAT

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When did you realise he was a hack?

>tfw I grew out of Christopher to Peter
>tfw now I've grown out of both of them
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>"growing out" of writers and thinkers and books and films and so on
>being so hooked at something you have to "grow out" of it
>not just reading and seeing and tasting the world and having good and bad impressions that transform themselves as you go along, not identifying yourself so much with people you never even met
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>>8626839
>muh utopian longing for a time that never existed

Trash.
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>>8626839
>muh morals
He should have died instead

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Medfag who loves reading here
I feel like science has made philosophy obsolete. At least neuroscience. How can I combat this feeling? Whenever I read about some philosophers and their life views, I remember neuroscience and it's like everything they say falls apart.
What are your thoughts on this topic?
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>>8626723
Start with the pre-Socratics
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Are you fags even aware philosophy means love for knowledge?
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Try reading actual philosophy instead of what pop scientists say about philosophy

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Where do I start with U.G. Krishnamurti?
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His conversations on Youtube
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>>8626754
Any particular recommendation?
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>>8626854
No.

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Why is poetry so difficult to analyze?

I'm used to thinking about the facts.
>shit happend
>keep reading

Not deep and implied meaning.

How do you even analyze poetry?
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I feel like a lot of poetry is always entrenched in a bunch of other meanings that I don't care or know about. Just give me some god damn feels ok.
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Reminiscence of Marie A.
Bertolt Brecht

One day in blue-moon September,
Silent under a plum tree,
I held her, my silent pale love
in my arms like a fair and lovely dream.
Above us in the summer skies,
Was a cloud that caught my eye.
It was so white and high up,
and when I looked up, it was no longer there.

And since that moment, many a September
Came sailing in, then floated down the stream.
No doubt the plum trees were cut down for timber
And if you ask what happened to my dream
I shall reply: I cannot now remember
Though what you have in mind I surely know.
And yet her face: I really don’t recall it.
I just recall I kissed long ago.

Even the kiss would have been long forgotten
If that white cloud had not been in the sky.
I know the cloud, and shall know it forever,
It was pure white and, oh, so very high.
Perhaps the plum trees still are there and blooming.
Perhaps that woman has six children too.
But that white cloud bloomed only for a moment:
When I looked up, it vanished in the blue.
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Stopping by Woods on a Snowy Evening
Robert Frost

Whose woods these are I think I know.
His house is in the village though;
He will not see me stopping here
To watch his woods fill up with snow.

My little horse must think it queer
To stop without a farmhouse near
Between the woods and frozen lake
The darkest evening of the year.

He gives his harness bells a shake
To ask if there is some mistake.
The only other sound’s the sweep
Of easy wind and downy flake.

The woods are lovely, dark and deep,
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep.

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You can have dinner with any three authors, living or dead. Who would you choose? What would you discuss?
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Luther, Hitler, Céline.

Jews.
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Heidegger, Kierkegaard, Wittgenstein

Silence
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>>8626652
>autism
Ftfy

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Hello. I tried looking at the wikia, wikipedia and goodreads for Avant-Garde fiction, but I'd like a larger list, preferably chronologicaly.
You can be as avant-garde and obscure as you like.
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>>8625997
waves - virginia woolf
finnegans wake - james joyce
atrocity exhibition - jg ballard

you probably have those already but.
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>>8625997
Let me guess. You're a 16 year old that thinks himself some tasteful avant garde intellectual, that went from listening to the beatles to the most obscure avant teen stuff on /mu/ he could get his hands on. Now, you've decided you're also an intellectual reader, but can only read something when it's labeled as avant garde.

I hate tasteless poser hacks so much.
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Remember, avant-garde doesn't count unless it's NEW: Woolf literally said that herself.

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Who buys poetry?

Realistically: college graduates, maybe 40/60 male-female ratio. Mainly liberal arts majors.

But can we get more specific than this?
For example, are doctors more likely to by poetry than engineers (sex ratios aside)?

For my part, I have bought three books of poetry, none contemporary: Baudelaire's Paris Spleen, Marlowe's short poems, and Paradise Lost.
Also a few Shakespeare plays, but since the focus is on private reading, plays are arbitrarily ruled off-topic. The rest of my reading has been online sponging.
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I doubt there's any real statistics about this. I'll say this, most of the people I've met in real life who're into poetry tend to be women but the people who are more in-depth with it (ie, actually have sizable collections) are usually men; this isn't always true though.
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We can narrow it down to sentient life form.
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I have several feet of poetry on my shelves, much of which I've actually read. First picked it up as a pre-teen in the 70s and kept acquiring more even though I don't like it that much. Never did get to go to college. Blue collar and all. I expect I am atypical.

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