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Are creative writing classes a meme ?
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>learning to be creative
Honestly, if you want to become a novelist, your best bet is foregoing college and using the money you save to travel and experience the world.
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>>8859946
When I took one I wasn't even interested in literature, I was a history major who wanted to get a new perspective on hiw to write better, so keep this in mind. But I got a lot out of the class honestly, weekly workshops and reading tons of mainstream and obscure lit+poetry. The class won't teach you how to be creative obviously, or help you clarify notions about the human condition. But it will teach you formal techniques and obvious shit that should be avoided. We didn't read one sentence if critical theory either. What the class is best for though is that it lights a fire under your ass to write, you need to write each week and you better make sure that that it won't embarrass you in front of the whole class. If I took one thing away from the class is that if you want to be a writer you best damn write. I just wish that I was as passionate about lit then as I am now.
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i once talked to a professor about studying philosophy on my own. he said that if i read, say, heidegger, and then told a real philosophy prof what i thought of him i would get laughed at.
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>"The silence was deafening"
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It's a metaphor you retarded frogposter
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>The silence was very quiet
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silence does some weird shit to your ears man. total silence makes people fall over and hear their own blood.
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Comfy /lit/ Thread: Christmas Edition 2016-12-19 02:56:37 Post No.8859775
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Comfy /lit/ Thread: Christmas Edition
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Haven't been on much for a while, but I'm finally back home from college and can relax. How's everyone been?
>what are you reading?
>what are you writing?
>how was your weekend?
>looking forward to christmas?
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>The Divine Comedy
>An epic
>slow and silent
>yes, I'll finally get my copy of Wheeler's Latin and some Egyptian hieroglyphs
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>>8859810
Very nice, Purgatorio and Paradiso are underrated for sure.
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>>8859775
> independent people, by harold laxness. lots of comfy descriptions of snow and arctic landscapes mixed with mild magical realism.
> a cyberpunk novel
> pretty good. the weather is cold here for once. i walked along the beach today during the magic hour in absolute bliss because of the weather and the way the sea looked under that light.
> very much so. its my favorite time of the year.
why haven't you started writing a book yet?
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>>8859527
I'll get round to it one day
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>>8859527
Too intelligent. Not impressed enough with any thought or story to the degree that I think it deserves a book.
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I haven't read enough books. I will write my first book at 35
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How to I begin to "understand" Derrida and Fouceault? Where do I begin? Kant? The Greeks? Saussure? Marx?
I encounter them all the time in my studies (art history undergrad) and I would like to read more of their texts rather than just the small excerpts profs assign. I've heard that they're even difficult to read for grad students. History of Sexuality is more or less straightforward, but anything on semiotics or whatever, especially from Derrida is filled with theories and references I don't know
TL;DR what do I need to do to form a complete understanding of Derrida, Foucault and associated theorists
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>>8859432
Nietzsche, you dumb fat idiot
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>>8859439
how do you know he's fat?
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>>8859440
Because he hasn't read Heidegger. Only fat idiots don't do that
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/sffg/ - Science Fiction and Fantasy General: 2016-12-19 01:04:58 Post No.8859410
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/sffg/ - Science Fiction and Fantasy General:
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Fantasy
>Selected:
>https://i.imgur.com/qkz73sR.jpg
>General:
>https://i.imgur.com/igBYngL.jpg
>Flowchart:
>https://i.imgur.com/uykqKJn.jpg
Science Fiction
>Selected:
>https://i.imgur.com/A96mTQX.jpg
>https://i.imgur.com/IBs9KE8.jpg
>General:
>https://i.imgur.com/r55ODlL.jpg
>https://i.imgur.com/gNTrDmc.jpg
>NPR's Top 100 Science Fiction & Fantasy Books:
>https://i.imgur.com/IJxTQBL.jpg
Previous Thread: >>8849931
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First for Finity's End.
C.J.Cherryh's merchanter books are underrated.
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Second for Rothfuss is shit Sanderson is anime
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>>8859410
I was recommended Ready Player One by a friend, and the guy's other book, Armada. What do you guys think of these books?
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Why is contemporary far-right political philosophy so boring? Seriously the only original people who are ever brought up are Nick Land and Mencius Moldbug, apart from them it's a sea of completely predictable angry white male identity politics.
So the totality of relevant non-Leftist thought is reduced to 'accelerationism' and 'neo-cameralism' with some sprinklings of genetics-supported scientific racism
Is there seriously no other literature?
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You must be an idiot if you think all the right has to offer today is memelords like land and molbug
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>>8859337
I am an idiot, who am I supposed to be reading?
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>>8859337
This. He's forgetting our biggest hero
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I have a few bucks to spare. I already decided on what to buy in regards to political philosophy etc.. Now I want you guys to recommend me some fiction.
So far I have:
the stranger by Albert Camus
Deutschstunde (german lesson) by Siegfried Lenz
the catcher in the rye by jd salinger
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Do you have a moment to hear about our Lord and saviour, David Foster Wallace?
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>>8859113
No. He seems kinda cute tho
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>>8859113
Should I read infinite jest over Christmas break or will it take longer? Give me 3 reasons why you think its good.
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Post your profile, r8, h8, etc, etc.
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>>8859070
https://www.goodreads.com/user/show/62360068-euclides
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>>8859070
> no friends...
https://www.goodreads.com/user/show/55234283-skengrobot
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>>8859070
https://www.goodreads.com/user/show/25308096-jackinator
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>tfw only read philosophy so I can meme about it
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>tfw that's literally it's only use
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>>8858656
that's what it's there for
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>>8858656
>tfw only memeing so I can read philosophy
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If you're going to post, critique at least one work. That way, everyone wins. Enough of this no-response free-for-all; it's not a gallery.
How sweet it is to like.
How profound, pathetic,
to abase yourself in love,
forget decay and cry
for life that comes.
Your tears decompose
the dead with vigour.
Worms writhe in skulls
and lichen coats their bones.
You are their
antithesis.
Their epigone.
Even so,
there is no precedent
for this, the thing you feel.
Imitations gone before,
timid ghosts,
stumbled in their tracks
and died unnamed.
You never reach their heights
or lows, but on your night
the perfect circle closes.
With birthday candle wax
your fate is sealed.
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Just an excerpt from my crime novella
"Every stool was looser than the one before, and smelled fouler. By the time the moon came up she was shitting brown water. The more she drank the more she shat but the more she shat, the thirstier she grew"
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>>8858544
hey like not to get ahead of myself but that seems like it could be on a hbo show :>)
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>>8858529
Doesn't rhyme and I don't really feel a rhythm from the words. It's also structurally disjointed and truthfully thematically weak.
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Possible 'Count of Monte Cristo' group readthrough?' 2016-12-18 08:55:21 Post No.8858514
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Possible 'Count of Monte Cristo' group readthrough?'
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I was wondering if anyone would be interest in this?
Just as an alternative to the War & Peace readthrough, or alongside if you are hardcore. I spoke to the W&P OP in a previous thread and he didn't seem to mind.
Can /lit/ hold two doorstopper readthroughs at once? I've chopped it into chapters and it would be about 50 pages a day.
Anyway let me know what you think. I'm going to be reading it myself anyway so I just thought I'd ask.
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/r/books has a notorious hard on for this book so it may be worth trying there. Don't expect much from the conversation though
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>>8858539
I'd rather just read it alone than do that.
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>>8858514
>117 chapters
fucking Victorians
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When google searching "greatest philosophers", the first twenty to come up are (in the order of appearance)
-Plato
-Aristotle
-Socrates
-Nietzsche
-Descartes
-Kant
-Wittgenstein
-Aquinas
-Confucius
-Locke
-Marx
-Spinoza
-Sartre
-Hume
-Epicurus
-Hegel
-Heidegger
-Russell
-Schopenhauer
-Rousseau
Who deserves to be cut out? Who deserves a spot but didn't get one?
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Marx is a cuck
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>>8858515
But why?
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Schopenhauer deserves the cut. John Stuart Mill or Adam Smith or John Rawls deserves the addition.
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War and Peace Read-through: Day Two 2016-12-18 08:23:38 Post No.8858421
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War and Peace Read-through: Day Two
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W/ New And Improved Schedule As Requested
Didn’t clock that I’d set like 70 pages for today so sorry about that. If anyone had trouble making that we can probably work out some rescheduling to sort things out.
So, a lot of things happening. Still very much in the “peace” part of the novel, but with a bit more introspective stuff than yesterday’s reading, along with the focus on high society that we saw before:
>The death of Count Besukhov
>More development of the Rostov family
>Introduction to the Bolkonsky family
I think if we were to isolate a particular theme of the reading today, fathers would probably be a good one or maybe parenthood more generally. We see Pierre’s father’s death, as well as a glimpse of the kind of environment in which Andrei was raised, (and to a lesser extent, Boris’ relationship with his mother figures into this theme as well). So, to get the ball rolling with discussion (and trying not to sound like a high school teacher at the same time), what further light can be thrown on these characters based on the portraits Tolstoy is painting of their fathers?
Also, is it safe to say Pierre is well and truly /ourguy/? Other anons in yesterday’s thread were saying how much they could relate to his autism etc. Who /Andrei/ here?
Also this is the first time I've done anything like this so feedback is very much appreciated. Someone mentioned posting a family tree along with these. Would that be something most people want?
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Poll: http://www.polljunkie.com/poll/yagszq/war-and-peace
ePub for the Oxford World Classics ed:
http://www88.zippyshare.com/v/1X0E4NHw/file.html
And PDF (for page numbers):
http://www4.zippyshare.com/v/nqcT8Kt8/file.html
Gutenberg version of Maude translation. It has in-line French translations, so no need to consult footnotes, but lacks any front matter or appendix, so you still may need to consult the OWC edition:
https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/2600
Audiobook of the Maude translation
Neville Jason reading: http://esl-bits.net/ESL.English.Learning.Audiobooks/War.and.Peace/indice.html
Alexander Scourby reading (google it if you need the file): c56063307dfb59ef87f9aed222c06ef296723ebe
I think that's everything.
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>>8858421
Worth noting that like the page numbers, the chapters are only good for the OWC edition. Every edition seems to set chapters however they feel, even when using the same translation.
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>>8858459
Really? What system is there that we can all use then?
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LOL
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The first one made me chuckle.
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>>8858014
http://existentialcomics.com/comic/162
my favorite desu
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>>8858065
>While he never married, he had an active social life, including a friendship with Joseph Green, an English merchant.
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE