I'm looking to get into art history over the christmas break. what is a good intro book?
I'm dutch if that matters at all. Maybe a chart?
I TOO AM INTERESTED IN THIS! ONE WITH LOTS OF SAMPLES OF PAINTINGS
Bumping with Francisco Goya
>>8862361
The most popular art history books for beginners are Gombrich's but he can be frustrating at times.
To introduce yourself to art history I suggest you identify something you are interested in and start reading from there. Sculpture, a particular movement, a style, a technioque, a century, an artist, a country, etc. Why not go to a museum and see what the dutch masters painted? That would be the best introduction, in my opinion.
Hello
I am conducting a very simple survey across /sci/, /lit/ , & /ic/ .
Please take a moment of your time to answer these questions, i`ll post the results soon
>Do you carry a pen/pencil with you everyday?
> If yes, what do you use?
>Do you carry a notebook with you everyday?
> If yes, what do you use?
>In your personal opinion, what is the highest triumph of humananities achievments thus far?
(Can be anything from astronomical observations to the printing press to cheese pizza)
>What do you consider to be the high forms of art?
>The low forms?
>>8862325
>triumph of humananities achievments thus far?
You mean achievements by humans in general or from the humanities (arts and culture)?
>>8862325
The first 4 questions are going to be massively skewed by people still in school (who all need writing utensils and notebooks).
>"The characters won't do what I want them to!"
Is this autism? I see a LOT of writers who say shit like this
>>8862280
Are you a writer? A character feels the most natural when its their motives and actions pulling the story, not the author's. The author may think its cool if his big badass hero saves the day, but what if that character is founded on emotional conflict that leads to apathy in his later years. What if he hears about a burning building relativley close by but thinks its not worth the effort. That hes become more conservative in his later years and doesn't want to risk his life for something like this anymore. That would form a more genuine and interesting conflict in the end.
>>8862399
But did that character you just came up with make up itself or did you think of it?
The supposed and expected development of a character can take a left turn depending on the events of the book. If you want your character to act a certain way but it goes against the logical progression of the character then there's your dilemma.
It's the same with people; your masterfully tailored ideology clashing with the reality of life. Your ego expects life to work a certain way but life doesn't follow your suit.
What books are you plebs reading?
The Enigma of Arrival. It's excellent.
Any books that happen around Xmas suggestions? Or cozy winter novels?
Castle to Castle. It's not as good as Journey and Death on Credit, but it's still breddy gud.
>tfw Céline spends the first 150 pages complaining about his motorcycle and his dogs and his books and about not having a car and watching boats and having no money for coal and carrots because Normance was a flop
I'll also take a look at The Count of Monte Cristo.
Howl and other poems.
Do you like to listen to music while reading? I've been listening to Young Thug while reading pic related for maximum effect
I listen to rainymood sometimes. Anything with lyrics takes me out of it.
Not music, but I like audiobooks, but I don't like to hear other people's voices, I like to hear my own voice, so before I read a book, I record myself reading it (takes about a week), then I put on the recording of me reading it, and I read it in my head while following along with the recording.
>>8862255
This book is garbage.
Right lads, that’s day three and the beginning of the war section of the book. A pretty big change from the society scenes of the last two days, but in other ways not too different. So far we’ve had:
>Kuzutov inspecting the army
>The defeat ofthe Austrian army
>The purse incident
>The bridge scene
Now, the change of scene, accompanied by a change of tone, gives us a lot to talk about. We’re introduced to a whole host of new characters. What’s our read on Kutuzov for example?
There seems to be a switch from French to German being used. Is this important?
How do we feel about the shift in conversational tone between this and the last section? The vulgarity of the soldiers contrasts pretty heavily with the propriety of society conversation desu, so what do we make of that?
Also, your man OP isn’t going to be able to make a thread tomorrow night, cuz he’s got a night out on the town with some friends (No worries, we’ll tie a policeman to a bear if we can find one). Which means someone else is gonna have to do it. So it’d probably be best to sort that out in this thread.
>>8862235
Schedule
>>8862235
Handy Principal Characters and Guide to Pronunciations from the OWC ed. anon posted in the other thread
4 questions/comments to you guys:
What are some of the major themes we can see now that we’re in a War section? Nicholas Rostov’s horror at war contrasted with the peace of nature is evidently one, as is courage under fire (the other, more experienced hussars getting the stretchers, firing the bridge, etc.). Is that it?
What is the actual role of people attached to a high ranking officer? At the inspection there are some officers attached to the general(?) (of which Andrew was a part) that were laughing and joking around and talking while following him. Why?
Why would Russians have antipathy to the Austrians? ("Besides it was pleasant, after his reception by the Austrians, ... to speak [at least] with a Russian who would, he supposed, share the general Russian antipathy to the Austrians which was then particularly strong.
Where in Napoleon’s campaign are we? Is this near the beginning of his first campaign before being exiled, or in the middle? I’m guessing it’s the first because the start of the novel discusses the possibility and outbreak of the war, but was it going on before Russia got involved?
So far I'm very much enjoying it. Tolstoy is an incredible illustrator of small scenes.
>the ghosts had to use emotional manipulation and scare tactics to get him to change
>he will inevitably be worse off financially because of his new attitude
was Scrooge in the right?
>>8862194
He was about as bad off as you can be because he wouldn't spend any fucking money, he ate gruel and didn't have heat.
no, scrooge was not in the right
even with his new found generosity he was fabulous wealthy. people still owed him money he just wasn't such a cunt about it
>>8862194
heck no!
>americans using french expressions
>american trying to pronounce french names
>they get them wrong
>oh wait they are actually 'right' for them so if you use them correctly you are using them 'wrong'
pas d'commentaire...
say le vive, jean-mouloud
>tfw you speak french but force yourself to butcher the pronunciation of french names and places when speaking english because everyone will think you're a stuck up cunt if you say them right
>esl's making threads to alleviate their feelings of inferiority
Can this meme go away?
Will Soumission prove the most relevant work of the 21st century?
>>8862066
Yes, because Eurofag will continue to live in terror and be murdered by desert fanatics as they import more and more against their own interests.
>>8862116
>willfully misunderstanding a book just so you can say they agree with you
Jesus Christ, it's like you're an american evangelical christian
>>8862204
Please explain the real meaning of Soumission.
Would this book be appropriate for a child?
There's a lot of prostitutes and bad language so look out if you're giving it to you're puritan sister's kid or something. Also it isn't all lighthearted with chapters like McWatt towards the end. Other than that I'd say a lot of kids would enjoy it if they're able to keep focused.
the book is pretty grim, even though it's a comedy. i'd recommend that the kid waits a few years with it
it's only appropriate for a child :^]}
Which Shake would you Speare?
mmmmmmbad post
>>8861972
Im redpilled
>>8861972
I'm about to shake my own spear now if you know what I mean
Any good books that justify protectionism?
>>8862717
lol
>>8861970
1) Natioinal System of Political Economy - Friedrich List
2) The American System - Andrew Stewart
3) Harmony of Interests - Henry C. Carey
4) Collected Speeches and Writings - Alexander Hamilton or Abraham Lincoln (if you can find them John Quincy Adams or William McKinley)
Why doesnt /lit/ talk about this guy? He's way better than Bloom.
>structuralism
>>8861739
can you give a more specific reason why I should care about him
>>8861739
>Bloom
>people who read for a living are valid critics of books by people who did other things in their life and just happened to write
Do /lit/ sperglords hate this guy because his characters actually behave like normal humans, which confuses their autism?
>>8861734
B)
>>8861716
Something like that. They also have no sense of family/interpersonal connection, so the only books they can enjoy are the cerebral ones.
Even the books that do blend both are only memed/discussed because of their relative difficultly, never because of their more "human" themes.
>>8861716
No. His books are great and well written. I like him as an author, but I just don't like him as a person because he's a huge pleb.
Hey /lit/
I'm currently writing my memoir with the intention of writing the longest and most detailed memoir ever written. I have written 640,000 words thus far and have yet to reach my twelfth birthday (in the book). Needless to say there are what some may label "digressions" but they are all carefully articulated and included in order to benefit the work as a whole.
Are there any lengthy memoirs you have read and appreciated? Are there any literary feats similar if not equivalent to what I am attempting?
Thanks for reading.
>>8861593
who could possibly be interested in reading all that?
Christ almighty. What has happened in your life to warrant that word count? Anything even remotely exciting or readable?
>>8861613
It depends really on who they judge the author to be. My mother for example will read it regardless of any promotional effort, and perhaps a dozen people may be tempted to read around fifty pages if they find out about it and find the novelty appealing. I am considering sending it to establishing publishing houses, although the responses I have received from such publishing houses thus far has severely discouraged me from believing that publishing this via traditional means is a realistic ambition.