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>>8857708

The case with Murakami is that he is sort of the perfect blend between artistic literature and genre fiction. This frustrates the high brow crowd, especially when he puts banal platitudes in the mouth of his characters, trying to be deep. But his style and feel and sometimes the plot can make up for it. For some people, at least.

Think of him as the film Inception. Some good ideas with the intent of being more than just entertainment, executed fairly well with it's music and tone. But the characters were card board cut-outs and the dialogue terrible. The dialogue about love being a constant force made even /tv/ with it's pleb taste lash out, and turned it into a meme. Now is it a good or bad film? Depends on the viewer, what he prefers, and if the good outweighs the bad. I personally found Inception to be bad, but I did enjoy at least 2 of Murakami's novels. Although, I read them ages ago, and have probably matured since then.

Basically, he's hit or miss and could serve as good gateway author to more serious stuff. But he should not be hailed as a more than that, and the fact that he is by "normies" makes /lit/ automatically adverse to his books.

>>8857708
while i'm reading him, i love him
when the novel finishes, i still love him
after some weeks, i hate him
i have no idea if hes good enough to win a nobel as some people say, i'll probably say i love him because all characters he write are me

>>8857918
So if you already read "highbrow" stuff he's basically trite?

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>>8857438

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>>8857439
This year starts with Der Wehrwolf.

Particular favourites (with the exception of books by the authors i already mentioned) were the following:
>Salammbo
>Illusiones perdu
>Le Rouge et le Noir
>Die Zerissenen Jahre
>A supposedly fun thing i'll never do again
>Libra
>Brief Interviews with hideous men
>Byung-Chul Han
>Schopenhauer
>Deutschland, Ein Wintermärchen
>Euripides in general

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>>8857450
>>Byung-Chul Han
nice

ulysses and illuminatus are good throw the rest in the fuckin trash

read ulysses before illuminatus RAW is a big joyce fan

The Long Ships is so fucking enjoyable.

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What I had lying by my bed.

It's wrong

>>8855046
I think it's sound. You exist because you are a thinking being. You can't be certain of others' existence, or even the world around you, but you can be certain that you are a thinking being that thinks, therefore, your mind that thinks, at the very least, has to exist.

>>8855055
Care to explain why?

>>8853717
that screencap alone does not paint a very pleasing picture
am I right to assume it's a bunch of special snowflakes who think they're the shit because they read books outside of the YA Fiction section at their local BaN?

>>8853723
>they read books outside of the YA Fiction section at their local BaN?

hahahahahahaha

>>8853723
No it is even worse than that. It is 20-30 somethings who read and collect YA exclusively.

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How do I shot web?

Why haven't you read Baudolino yet?

is it ok to simultaneously read 2 novels with tons of characters each?

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No, not even close.

yes, deal with it

His nose looks like a plastic surgery nose.

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>>8852544
You didn't read that book, anon.

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Based Hayek

>>8852544
Das Kapital

>>8849965
is that the central theme? i thought it was that salvation can reach anyone, even/especially nonbelievers, by the grace of god. nothing can be done to earn salvation yet it must be accepted.

i guess the book highlights the fact that raskie was descending into the state of nihilistic "rationalism," but given that his name means "cleaved in two," the dual aspect of fall and restoration are critical to the theme.

so yes, given the above and the fact that sophia was a prostitute out of necessity, i strongly agree with his theme.

>>8849965
within the context of the book, yes I think it's remarkably accurate.
by which I mean I don't think it's strictly impossible to live in rational nihilism and not be selfish and destructive, but that would take some real psychological gymnastics.
I think Peter and Svidrigailov were very true to life and the psychological insight to their characters was brutally accurate

>>8849965
I thought it argued that the so called great men were really mass murderers but I don't even recall how it ends.

>>8849331
I haven't read anything by him but I plan to. What's the best entry point, op? What's his best work overall?

>>8849886
>What's his best work overall?

Extinction

Correction>The Loser>Woodcutters>The Lime Works>Extinction

that being said, Correction puts a huge shadow on the rest of his books imo

My favourites (i haven´t read all great writers, so i wouldn´t know who are the greatest of all time).

Borges
Pessoa
García Márquez
Baudelaire
Rimbaud
Joyce
Whitman
Faulkner
De Maupassant
Zola

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>>8847463
>Borges
>Garcia Marquez
>Joyce
>Faulkner

Kys, you hopeless pleb.

>>8847417
MY PERSONAL FAVORITES

Coover
Barthelme
Gallant
Maugham
pynchon
Gass
Mcelroy
Federman
Gaddis
Barth

my wife's son

All I need in life is a King sized mattress to lay on and nice warm covers and I'd be content

There isnt anything "comfy" about what is in my mind
How can I cure that?

Evola, desu

>>8862032
>religious fundamentalists, who believe in divine revelation, are a product of scientism
Did religious fundamentalism only appear after Bacon's writings on the philosophy of science?

The world would still be a shithole

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I avoided Discworld for like half a decade because I was put off by the godawful cover art.

Better teach your kid elvish then

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The sad thing is, the 70s edition covers were already faithful, you just can't find them, and when you do they're far too expensive. It's not as if I'm a collector, or a Moomin fan, I'm not paying mad money just for the good cover.

I also don't like the new titles. Why does Moomin's name need to be shoved into all of them? Even onto the names of his family members? This all makes the series look more soft and cuddly, geared toward toddlers, than it was probably supposed to be. "Comet" "The Magician's Hat" "Midsummer Madness" "Trollwinter" "Tales from the valley" and "Late in November" would have been fine titles.

England totally shit the bed when these things were being localized.

>>8861849
I like

___?

Not that I'm an authority, but he seems to be the most overinterpreted writer since Shakespeare. That's not to say overrated. I think he wrote great stories that have a unique tone and brilliantly create a feeling of nightmarish tension and doom. But they don't seem to me to be about all the things critics say they're about.