>>8865027
Been a minute since I've seen you around. Stop posting this shit. It's not insightful or interesting.
>>8865066
Hmm, well you're dismissed. I always write stuff, I wrote another one recently about how I think free speech should be protected regardless of who's speaking. But I just haven't had a substantial urge to sit down and write out my thoughts in depth lately, because I feel that I had exhausted a lot of the ideas that were the basis of my writing for a while now. Sometimes this happens, I write a lot and then I go for periods of months where I don't take the time to sit down and write anything substantial. I am always writing though, because I spend a lot of time on the internet, and it's my primary form of communication, like how I'm typing to you right now. It's very relaxing to me to write.
>>8865095
Cool. I'm glad it relaxes you. But stop making these threads.
Thoughts?
>>8865013
>mfw I can't wake up
>>8865013
Spirituality without religion? I mean, you at least have to read the religious texts.
>>8865028
It's about being spiritual without the dogmatic stuff.
>oh look, anon is here.
>why dont you read us one of your poems, i saw you writing verse the other day.
>Implying women would ever initiate conversation with me
>>8864608
T-Thanks, this is a piece I wrote called Ode to Schopenhauer
how is it possible for a room to have so many unfuckable women in it
How do I de-nazify myself?
I'm reading Sartre and it's only making me madder.
try /pol/
>>8864588
This is the antidote to the red pill
>>8864588
why do people read sartre anyway
he's not that good of a writer
Hello guys.
I've had a problem bothering me for quite some time already and I'm wondering what's your take on it.
When you read texts that are ambiguous and complex in nature, be it essays and philosophy or poetry and prose, how do you deal with parts that you do not understand. I'm only 18 and haven't read as much as I'd like to, so I guess I'm inexperienced, but this really irritates me because I am afraid of missing stuff or applying my preconceived ideas/thoughts instead of extracting from the work.
I am well aware that oftentimes there are multiple meanings or that the ambiguity is intentional (surrealism, absurd theatre,...), but I face the same fears when reading stuff like the Bible, Rimbaud, many philosophers or art theorists and I've always dreamed of reading Joyce in English (I'm not a native speaker) but his writing seems to require a very fluent and well read reader.
What do you recommend?
>>8864578
>What do you recommend?
Remember that you dont need to understand everything you read for the first time.
Complicated or deep stuff like philosophy can take months to really start making sense to you. Sometimes its best to just keep reading.
>>8864609
Thank you for your answer. So if there is a certain paragraph that you don't get, you brush it off and continue reading?
Wouldn't this method prevent one from getting more knowledgeable?
>>8864616
not the same guy, but you can re-read an entire chapter infinite times if you wish to.
Also if a text as multiple meanings you don't need to get them all - not the first time you read anyway.
How do I wash this taste out of my mouth /lit/
>>8864573
By browsing reddit and leaving literature to the big boys
>>8864575
You seem more interested in the act of being interested in literature than the genuine article
>>8864613
Yeah well appearances can be decieving
today i will start writing my shitty novel.
i figured you guys would be the best people to give me some tips on how to make it a little less shit.
>you guys would be the best people
Nope
Writing a novel is not as hard as people say it is. Just let the characters speak to you and do what they want to do. Characters are funny. Just when you think you know a character, she'll surprise you with something unexpected. And you'll go, oh, I didn't know she was going to do that! These are the moments that make it all worth it. Make sure you wake up at the same time every morning, grab a cup of joe (I know I need it!), take a seat in your favorite chair, and let the magic happen.
Tips: Don't make characters/interactions drab and get a editor, they will catch things you will never see.
ITT: Moments in books that give you le chills
>You know what: I'm afraid you're a dream, a ghost sitting there in front of me." he murmured.
>There's no chost, sir, besides the two of us, sir, and some third one. No doubt he's here now, that third one, between the two of us."
>Who is it? Who is here? What third one?" Ivan Fyodorovich said fearfully, looking around, his eyes hastily searching for someone in all the corners.
>That third one is God, sir, Providence itself, sir, it's all right here with us now, sir, only don't look for it, you won't find it.
>>8864457
From The Genealogy of Morals, Essay 1, Section 16
"In an even more decisive and profound sense than then, Judea once again triumphed over
the classical ideal with the French Revolution: the last political nobility in Europe, that of the French
seventeenth and eighteenth centuries, collapsed under the ressentiment-instincts of the rabble, – the world had never
heard greater rejoicing and more uproarious enthusiasm! True, the most
dreadful and unexpected thing happened in the middle: the ancient ideal itself appeared bodily and with unheard-of splendor before the eye and
conscience of mankind, and once again, stronger, simpler and more penetrating than ever, in answer to the old, mendacious
ressentiment slogan of priority for the majority, of man’s will to baseness, abasement, leveling,
decline and decay, there rang out the terrible and enchanting counter-slogan:priority for the few!
Like a last signpost to the otherpath, Napoleon appeared as a man more unique and late-born for his times than ever a man
had been before, and in him, the problem of the noble ideal itself was made flesh – just think
what a problem that is: Napoleon, this synthesis of Unmensch (brute) and Ãœbermensch (overman) . . ."
The moment in the Bell Jar when she realises she constantly imagines different futures for herself but can't commit to any other so lives her life achieving none of them.
Too close to home senpai
>>8864900
literally every philosopher in the 18th century jacks off over nappy
Like the following
>the catcher in the rye
>stoner
>lonesome dove
>flowers for Algernon (I don't give a fuck if its pleb)
>dying inside
>one flew over the cuckoos nest.
>>8864378
OH MY GOD fucking kill yourself. This is the most stupid high school tier reading level thread I've seen in a while. saged
>>8864378
is hillz prez yet?
sage btw
(please also sage your responses to me)
>>8864378
Try Carson's "The Heart is a Lonely Hunter" and Plath's "The Bell Jar". Also, read Salinger's stories.
I want to write a book, or i just had the idea to write a book. Should i begin by researching the structure of a book? or should i just start writing? Anons who have written or are currently writing one. any tips? How long should i write for so that it's considered a legitimate book? i did some research but it's all pretty basic shit, or people that want to write books to publish in the market, i don't want any of that. i just want to tell a story and share it anonymously with anons. I also want to do this to improve my writing and how i communicate.
So, any of you guys writing anything?
I'm writing a big ol' hunk of shit for more than 6 years.
Finally got the nerve to share a piece in the critique thread and someone said it was garbage. Only feedback I've ever had.
I hate it so much but I love it and I can't stop.
What did they mean by this?
I think you mean
"Hwaet did they mean by this?"
>>8864329
"Hwaet!" = "Listen!"
>>8864358
So you think
What are some staples of classic literature that is antisemitic WITHOUT being virulent, obsessive, or politicized about it?
I'm talking about things like major 20th century authors who weren't even fascist sympathizers or obsessive Jew-haters, but who clearly saw disliking Jews as a completely normal cultural thing. Major writers for whom despising or suspecting Jews was as normal as despising or suspecting communists would become in the Cold War period.
Pic related is sort of an example, but I think Lawrence just hated everybody.
>>8864323
Why on Earth is this of interest to you?
In either case anti-semitism is always going to have an obsessive and politicized edge. Even in those who are not Far Right
>>8864323
So who are you following on goodreads and why?
>>8864272
I used to follow MJ Nichols (very British and PC-ish, but a bright fellow otherwise), J Keely (I think--this one was a haughty twat who probably posts here too, very entertaining though), Nate D (he had very sensible reviews but has been long inactive) and another guy who called himself Hadrian or something (he had a bust of the emperor as his profile picture). I haven't been there for ages though. Nowadays I only log in to mark books as read or wanted.
>tfw you've been carrying around Better Never to Have Been: The Harm of Coming Into Existence in your wallet since you were 14 "just in case"
I only follow this guy: https://www.goodreads.com/review/list/4125375
My friend and I have conceptualized an idea for a play that we're going to begin writing probably sometime in Spring and I wanted to share and hear opinions. I also want to know how you think the ideas succeed and how they fail.
So the play is called King Brad. The whole play is basically a send-up of Shakespearean tragedy/histories. King Brad consists of characters who all speak in iambic pentameter verse except for Brad, who speaks in prose. King Brad essentially is a libertarian who becomes king despite having no interest in helping the citizens of London or having power. Brad struggles with the requirements of the job, and is only interested in fencing.
Brad's hencheman, Friar Nick, is extremely ambitious and despises Brad's good luck and plots to murder him. When Brad and Nick face off, Brad completely disarms Nick. Instead of condemning or killing Nick, Brad bemoans his fortune and admits that he just wants out.
From there, Brad and Nick conspire to get Brad exiled from town so that Nick can be crowned king. However, as the plan unfolds Brad ends up listening and empathizing with his citizens. He bonds with some of the citizens who tell him their woes and beg him to alleviate their pain. He cannot say no due to guilt, so Brad has to figure out how to help the citizens before he follows through on his plan.
Meanwhile, Nick sees all of this and realizes that while Brad isn't ambitious, he's kind of heart and noble. Nick realizes how dehumanized he's become in his thirst for the throne and wonders if achieving his goal will only prove that he has no care for anything except himself.
That's all we have so far, let me have it.
I think it's a great idea that actually didn't hurt my senses reading. Good job.
Genius I can't wait till King brad enters the anals of canon.
Shakespeare is dethroned!
I just finished Marlon James' A Brief History of Seven Killings, and I gotta say, it was so refreshing. I'm no liberal-left type or anything, but reading a well-written, literary novel that dealt with mostly poor, black characters (and with some gay and women stuff too) was really nice to read. It gave me a window on a world I, white European I am, didn't really know anything about, without being preachy or too hung up on racial politics. A nice break from the overwhelming middle-class ennui of white fiction these days. And it was a pretty well-done story too, complicated and a little challenging in a good way. I heard the author was inspired by Faulkner and it shows. Has anyone else read this book? What did you guys make of it?
This sounds neat, OP. I'll try and keep it in mind.
I'm waiting for his Black Leopard, Red Wolf
>>8864210
It's a good read. A little slow at first and later on the narrative gets confusing - way more confusing than Faulkner, for me at least - but some of the Jamaican-patois prose is absolutely beautiful, and for a guy who would be championed by idpol types James knows how to write anyone from black to gay to white.
>>8864217
I'm very intrigued.