I own the Constance Garnett translation already because I own The Great Books of The Western World set but I saw pic related (hardcover) at Goodwill. Should I get it? I also have a hunch that it's worth a bit since it's the first appearance of this translation.
>>8861763
>pevey
>volokhonsky
Pick it if you like fanfiction.
>>8861763
P&V is universally reviled.
>>8861763
McDuff or Avsey my man.
Why did the ending come out of nowhere?
>>8861645
This book is too short. Simple as that.
The main character needed more development to change into hating the society he once embraced. He isn't like Winston where he is inherntely against his world, he likes his world, he doesn't mind anything except his wife's "family" and then all of the sudden he is reading books, hiding them, throwing his life over the fucking window.
Then the bomb hits, like you said, out of nowhere. I believe this is crucial to the story tho. Trough the whole book we see how people are so bombarded by useless information, like we are, thrill seeking adh filled rats, that they don't know the real world or whats going on neither do they care. That's why the bomb comes out of nowhere, becuase in a 1984ish scenario where they are stuck in a war they can't win suddendly they lost and not evne the government is going to give up the illusion of ignorant happines that they had achieved. I think this encapsulates the whole meaning of the book, ignorance and happiness in a natural dumb human form. Not imposed. Just prefered. That's why they burn books, rewrite history and close themselves to their inner echo chambers.
>>8861958
i dunno, i recently saw the film adaptation on tv, and there, the ending is the same except theres no explosion, and it works out pretty well actually.
>>8861975
Haven't seen the movie but I insist, it was too short. It needed to develop more the MC.
A question for all /lit/ writefags. So, I am sure you have all had the experience of reading through your either material you wrote from way back, or even stuff from recently and reacting with a what-the-fuck-was-I-thinking-then horror at the awfulness of it all. Well, do you keep it as a kind of lesson to yourself or just move on get rid of it totally?
>>8861560
good band
>>8861566
Spectacular band, but they kind of ruined music a bit for me; after them nothing quite seemed to match up. The first Tame Impala album is fit to sit at the same table as them though.
>>8861560
What kind of stupid priorities do you have to care about this inconsequential shit?
Regardless I'd keep it because why the fuck not
Have you bought any books this year to give away as Christmas gifts?
No, every time I gifted a book the person smiled awkwardly and then I would see it sitting untouched in some corner of their apartment. That was back when I had friends.
>>8861484
My husband asked for a journal of writing prompts, so I'm making one for him this week. It's technically a book.
Other than that, I haven't gotten around to buying many presents yet, but books are one of the more common types of gifts in my circle of friends. One friend in particular really likes Agatha Christie lately, so I'll be looking into that...
Anyone have any Poirot novels to suggest?
>>8861484
.>giving someone homework as a gift just to prove how smart you are
I'm English and I unconsciously give every character an English accent unless their dialog is written phonetically.
I think this is because of subvocalising. Imagining an accent different to mine feels awkward and silly, as if I was reading it aloud.
Do you guys also do this? If you are American do characters speak with your accent? Or if you are reading Russian lit does every character have a Russian accent in your head?
>I'm English
I don't think in my own accent.
>subvocalising
How or why do you do this to yourself?
Do you also cast actors to roles in your head?
Fucking normies
How would you have defended Helm's Deep /lit/
From the novel The Lord of the Rings 2: The Two Towers.
10,000 Uruk-Hai vs. ~1000 Rohirrim + 300 Elves + ~600 armed peasants
What are some other memorable battles from novels that you enjoy?
I daydream about this battle almost every night, though in my version I leave Helm's Deep to rescue an isolated town which most believe to have been slaughtered already. I arrive there, rescue 200 people (50 men of fighting age and the rest citizens of Rohan) and then ride as fast as possible towards Helm's Deep. On the way we are ambushed in a forest by a company of Orcs. I and a small group of riders chase them away while the other wagons and horses ride on. Then we witness at a distance a group of Wargs raiding a group of people crossing an open plain. Rather than look after ourselves, I decide to go and help however I can and tell the others to ride on to Helm's Deep. I then ask who will ride with me and nobody replies, but as I ride away I am joined by around 25 men who help me in killing the Wargs and helping the group, who turn out to have left Helm's Deep after thinking they could make it on their own to a safer land. I return to Helms' Deep having been wounded by an arrow in my left shoulder, and people cheer as they see the group safe and also an additional 100 men altogether to defend their walls. I am weary and feverish after being wounded, and after a brief talk with Legolas and Gimli I am escorted to the field hospital, on the second floor of the main building Helm's Deep. On my way there I hear someone calling my name and it is Arwen, who sneaked away from Rivendale with the 300 Elves dispatched to assist with the defence of Helm's Deep. At first I am angry that she did that considering how likely it is that we will all be slaughtered here by a force of 10,000 Uruk-Hai, but then I soften and she nurses my wounds and we spend the afternoon before the battle talking and laughing and kissing. Before the battle we share a long embrace as thunder and the drums of the enemy are heard in the distance and their torches appear through the darkness. I bid her to go to the caves and look after the women and children there, and to escape as soon as the enemy has reached the entrance.
>>8861186
Those numbers are completely wrong. There were no Elves at the Battle of the Hornburg, there were Rohirrim, and you fail to consider the forces of Erkenbrand or that of the Huorns. That's what the fort was called btw, the Hornburg, Helms Deep is the valley it is located in.
>>8861186
By not allowing it to become a siege.
You fight a protracted insurgency in the countryside and destroy their supply lines making it impossible to mount a coherent offensive.
10:1 isn't a bad ratio for an insurgency, but it's impossible to win in a siege since most sieges have a 5:2 ratio of casualties for the attacker.
What does /lit/ think of Haruki Murakami's books?
/lit/ seems to hate him, for reasons I've never quite been able to gather.
I've only read The Wind-Up Bird Chronicle and I liked it a lot.
>>8861122
/lit/ hates authors that the guardian and Reddit wank to.
Overrated. And fuck anything to do with The Beatles
And before you call me an edgy contrarian, note that I loveboth Harry Potter and most anime
Is this really a masterpiece of American Literature? Harper Lee regarded it as a "simple love story" which is complete bullshit. There are a few instances where the intimate connection between characters are drawn upon; am I missing something? Was the love between Atticus and Maudie Atkinson? Boo and Scout?
Either she lied and was trying to be modest and wrote on equality or she had no idea how to write a love story.
>>8860974
Who gives a shit, To Kill a Mockingbird is babby's first liberal virtue-signaling book
>>8860985
i give little shits, mainly because she is one of the better female authors I have read.
>implies people of different races are not to be entertained or acknowledged as equally human
>thinks red-pill means being racist and hating on specific groups of people for traits to be found in his own race
>hates things about "other people" that have nothing at all do with his small wee-wee
>>8860992
>he fell for the "equality" meme
>muh ebil white people
>if you never risk being seen as pretentious, you'll never make anything interesting
do you agree or no?
yes and no
>>8860963
Its piss easy to be pretentious, takes no effort to anyone with half a brain.
Yes... You all agree.
Which author can you relate to the most, personality-wise?
>>8860840
David 'Faggot' Walase
Jack London and Stendhal.
>>8860840
You're nothing like Kafka, Kafka was a sweet caring, honest guy. You're an edgy little stuck up brat. Just because you're semi-autistic doesn't make you like him.
Is there something I didn't caught in this book?
First few novelas were interesting but after that it was literary the same character in the same romantic bullshit.
> Be me
> American painter in Paris
> Love a woman
> There's something weird about her
> The end
>not loving the waifu bait
>>8860838
Speak English, friend.
It's a pretty difficult read so I wouldn't be surprised if you missed quite a lot of the plot and just ended up remembering shallow details...
Though he had an over-religious mother and alcoholic father, Gass, for all intents and purposes, lived a wholesome and fulfilling life. Where exactly did he channel the intensity and sense of persecution found in The Tunnel?
Fuck this myth that artists are channeling their deepest inner emotions or whatever when creating art. NO, what the good ones ACTUALLY do is practice and become extremely good at the art, and then work very hard on making their individual art works great. They don't have to have been traumatized as a child or some bullshit. In fact, they're much more likely to become great artists if they grow up in an environment where they're allowed a lot of time and encouraged to work on their art, IE they're sufficiently wealthy and comfortable and don't have to worry about getting by
>>8860921
So you're telling me Gass was just so talented he didn't need to draw on personal experience?
>>8860741
You see, he's fat.
Really makes you think...
xD
>>8860683
That animation is so smooth
>>8860683
reminder
I want to get into some better literature. Read some of the staples. What should I read next?
>The recognitions
>Blood meridian
>J R
>This side of paradise
Do I need to read anything before J R or blood meridian to get/enjoy them?
>>8860662
Is Catch-22 any good?
>>8860681
It's fucking brilliant and hilarious.
Hi /lit/. Are there any good first-hand accounts of explorers meeting with indigenous people, and where the explorers affect their lives?
Think Star Trek, just real. I'm really interested in this kind of encounter, but I don't know where to start.
It's called anthropology
>>8860621
melville
>>8860621
Pilgrimage, Fernão Mendes Pinto