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well since the falling of rome occurred slowly over hundreds of years, including fracturing into the eastern empire which got sacked around 1453, it's kinda hard to reverse all that history and have any clear view of what might have been. so like, you mean if the visigoths never sacked rome or if the pax romana just continued post-augustus and none of the shiddy emperors ruined everything?

i suppose if they never faltered they would keep developing technology and eventually have romanized the world i guess.

That's an incredibly stupid question for a bunch of reasons. The fall of the Western Roman Empire (assuming that's what you're talking about) wasn't some cataclysmic event, it was a very slow, very gradual decline. You'd have to examine thousands of factors across two and a half hundred years and determine which of them, exactly, would have to be removed from the equation to allow the Western Empire to continue existing.

>>1434086
What economic reforms prevents the Fall of Rome in this fantasy?

5000 yari ashigaru

Knights

>>1428833
All dismounted too.

they were mostly educated
humans are always curious of the world, regardless of the time period
look up inventions from the dark ages and you'll realize that not everyone was a babbling retarded
it's considered "dark" because of the rising influence of the church over the state and the lack of a unified european state like there was with rome

>>1432343
any good articles on this? ideally not from stormfront or some shit?

>>1432333
Basically western civilization collapsed and Europe was ruled by barbarism and superstition for a thousand years. Many intellectual pursuits like 'science' and art and philosophy literally regressed thanks to a certain jewish death cult.

Towards the end of this period shit started getting better, and since not everything was lost in the meantime, recently some historical revisionists have argued that the dark ages are a meme. They're wrong and they use deceptive methods to argue this by either redefining the 'dark ages' as either just a short period of time before the renaissance, or talking about how that small length of time actually wasn't so bad and then implying that means the entire period of time since the fall of western civilization was just as good. If you consider the entire period to claim that Europe didn't go backwards and remain essentially a backwater shithole for a long ass period of time is factually incorrect.

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TL;DR

Sola Fide, by faith alone.
Sola Scriptura, by Scripture alone.
Solus Christus, through Christ alone.
Sola Gratia, by grace alone.
Soli Deo Gloria, glory to God alone.

>>1436096
All Five Sola's are equally important for every Christian.

You need to have faith.

You need to read Scripture, at least the New Testament, mainly the Gospel.

You need Christ. Christ will show you.

You need grace from God.

You need to glorify the Lord, God.

>>1436163
basically
protestants : christians :: wahhabism : islam
>but protestantism is correct while those other people are devil-worshippers
protestants were/are inconoclasts who purified their version of abrahamism and removed ritual, cultural, sensual elements, often involving violence, replacing the "corrupt" traditions with literalist autism. its close enough

Western imperialism be keeping a Muslim bruda down! True answer is Islam. It's always Islam.

There's a certain innate Western inferiority complex that has led Westerners since the Renaissance to identify themselves with ancient Greco-Romans, because they thought that was the only kind of true civilisation there ever was, and believed Western accomplishments to be inferior.

The truth is Western civilisation is separate from Greco-Roman even if it has taken some inspiration from it, just as Near Eastern civilisation has.

>>1433435
Morality is subjective

>>1436766

They didn't. You have bought into a leftist meme.

>>1436773
>democrats during civil war
Fuck niggers!

>republicans during civil war
Maybe don't fuck the niggers so hard!

>democrats now
Elect niggers!

>republicans now
Fuck niggers, spics and homos!

???????

Civil Rights.

Before Civil Rights the south was solidly Democrat. After that and until Reagan they were anybody's game. When Reagan brought in the Social Conservatives to the party the south went to being solidly Republican, but also meant the Republicans needed to pander & solicit the southern vote.

As an English person, i'm fucking disgusted at my country and frightened at the current climate of toxicity and hate caused by the brexiteers.

Morality is subjective

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>>1433517
cucked

I'm a #MohammadM8 now

I like the first quote.
Not sure what to think about the rest.

>Everyone in the middle east and north Africa is an Arab
Mkay
The Phoenicians were a completely different identity from the Egyptians and so on and so forth. The reason why those living in N Africa and the middle east share any sort of common identity is Islam.
Its like talking about Europe and sweeping everyone together as white.

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They all have something in common...

No...

why is the meek old traditional social democrat considered some aggressive and radical communist/socialist

>>1439408
"Once you pop, you can't stop" -Napoleon Buonaparte

Britain not only had more ships, theyre navy men were worth 100 french navy men. France could not compete without so they attacked russian in some last ditch attempt to starve a global empire.

>>1439408

You can't build a navy just like that and Napoleon could have beaten Russia, the whole unbeatable Russia is a meme, just because both Napoleon and Hitler conquered Europe spendidly and fucked up the Russian invasion.

It doesn't mean that much. In WW1 the Eastern front collapsed and the Western didn't. The Mongols crushed the Russian principalities, Poland and Hungary but were beaten in Bulgaria and never stood a chance against the HRE.

Napoleon made serious mistakes during his invasion, but that doesn't mean he couldn't have pulled it off at all and install a friendlier regime that would have been targeting British India just like Paul intended to before his death and drive Britain even more into the corner by joining the embargo.

He was an ambitious man he never intended to put a limit on how powerful he can become.

vienna

>>1439242
In later period yes, but in earlier, wouldn't it be Prague most of the times?

>>1439250
I guess so. There isn't one and only definitive place because we're talking about very dynamic centuries of existance.

Catholics knew they would lose their authority if they allowed common people to read scripture

>>1439028
Besides the reformation movements that led to massive religious wars in Germany and France vicariously leading to shit like 30 years war killing millions and millions, nothing I guess

>>1439036
Yeah, that's it Paco, Catholicism is a religion of peace!

I think your average peasant knew very little about the world more than 10 miles from their home. Tell them there is a king and he's wonderful and god approves, and they'll accept that's just the way things are. "It is known."

>>1438635
Well considering that the "working class" has been dumb as fuck for most of human history they probably did.
And even if they didnt it wouldnt matter, they have no education and spent their entire lives moving dirt around in one tiny village.

>>1438635
>Were all peasants as brainwashed by religion and their current ruler propaganda as we think?
Yes,although in pre-enlightenment societies thee were considered normal and positive acts.

>>1438496
>Why are the Romans portrayed as invincible when they got BTFO so many times?

>>1438496
>I choose to ignore the fact their btfo/btfo'd ratio heavily favors them and cherry pick these times they didn't win and present it as evidence that they weren't all that
That's real fucking neat-o, senpai

>>1438677
OP is a cuck

Jews domesticated us humans though

>>1438127
Adults domesticate their children into the system their parents domesticated them in.

>>1438127
>Are humans wild animals?
No, even the most wild human societies are more socially complex than most wild animals.