William Tyndale

Catholics knew they would lose their authority if they allowed common people to read scripture

>>1439028
Besides the reformation movements that led to massive religious wars in Germany and France vicariously leading to shit like 30 years war killing millions and millions, nothing I guess

>>1439036
Yeah, that's it Paco, Catholicism is a religion of peace!

>>1439040
Yes, that's it Hans, protestants dindu nuffin, dey all good boys

>>1439036
But that is a political argument. But William Tyndale was tried for heresy...? What's so heretical about translating the Bible?

>>1439044
Let's ignore for a moment that your post is complete bullshit, if it were true it would imply the Catholic church is atheist, because they were more concerned with peace than spiritual truth

>>1439054
I don't care about theology in the slightest, you can't deny that Luther, translating the bible etc was the catalyst of everything that followed
If you had told him then what his "spiritual truth" would eventually lead to, do you think he would have still done it?

Even Erasmus at the time didn't think it was necessarily a good thing to open Christianity to interpretation of just everyone, and that's a dude who's known to be a great humanitarian philosophist

>>1439069
>you can't deny that Luther, translating the bible etc was the catalyst of everything that followed
Except that fact that in ALL the violence the Catholics started the war?

Here's a good biopic about him
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVOrQg8Wq0M

>>1439074
The protestant reform in itself was already an attack on Catholicism
You start undermining my business, I'll take action

Was it worth it though? So that some German barley farmer could know what it said exactly (according to one translation) in the Bible

>>1439085
>The protestant reform in itself was already an attack on Catholicism
Ahahahahahahah
>You start undermining my business, I'll take action
So the church is a business now?
>Was it worth it though?
Yep
Considering Catholics started all the war, you're basically making an argument for cuckoldry

>>1439085
You sound like a secular political "realist".

I'd like hear the Catholic justification of this.

>>1439094
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Peasants%27_War
Literally the first conflict listed in wikipedia less than a decade after Martin Luther's thesis

>>1439106
Do you even know what Luther said about that?
He always opposed it

>>1439106
Meanwhile the thirty years war, the bloodiest event until WW1, was started by a Catholic emperor trying to destroy Protestantism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirty_Years%27_War#Origins_of_the_war

>>1439113
Makes no difference, he still started it

>>1439094
>So the church is a business now?
Also, yes
Both a secular business and a spiritual business
They had this whole soul saving thing figured out at least according to them and then some yuppie comes along and starts shouting it's a corrupt unethical shitty business, here's how I'd change it and you should agree for the sake of your soul

>>1439124
>he still started it
No, Carlstadt did
>Both a secular business and a spiritual business
>They had this whole soul saving thing figured out at least according to them and then some yuppie comes along and starts shouting it's a corrupt unethical shitty business, here's how I'd change it and you should agree for the sake of your soul
Lad, it's time to stop posting

>>1439134
Y-you too, when all you can come up is memes

>>1439124
That is quite a machiavellian world view. "I need to protect the ignorant peasants from knowing the truth, and from what they'll do to themselves once they know the truth."

>>1439137
Irony

>>1439143
You mean orwellian

>>1439036
>>1439044
>>1439069
>>1439085
>>1439124
>>1439137
Yes, yes very good Papists. Just taking care of church business, eh? I get it. Very good indeed.

HOWEVER

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIlmZKOirwU

>>1439180

You posted some music at them?

>>1439028
Early bible translations were opposed because church official considered them to twist the meaning of Bible. That's why they didn't like "independent" printers printing their bibles too.

And seriously, back in early modern era being bilingual was fairly common and so was learning latin. If somebody was literate he likely could learn himself latin if he wanted to read the bible.

>>1439514
Bullshit
The only way to learn Latin was through the Church, that's why there's such a thing as "eccliesiastical Latin"