What do people in the US make of Deuter packs? I see them commonly worn in Europe, and I know they are sold in the States, but it seems to me that americans can't stop the dick-measuring between Gregory and Osprey.
>>900908
They are pretty common here. I have one.
Deuter makes decent packs, but there are definitely brands they have better designs and construction.
When I was /out/fitting I definitely sold mostly Gregory and Osprey, but I'd say a close third was Deuter. I sold a LOT of Act Lite 65+10s. I liked that they're a full pound lighter than and $60-$80 cheaper than similar osprey/Gregory packs by virtue of having a simpler design with fewer extraneous features.
The harness wasn't the most comfortable, but the OS adjustability was handy because I could fit it to just about anybody.
It was my favorite pack for customers who wanted a solid, modern pack but didn't want to get lost in spec sheets and feature lists.
Anyone know a decent knife I can get for £30 or under?
I got a Whitby, nothing fancy but it holds a good edge and is pretty tough, I'm on the coast so stainless steel and the right size was all I wanted, pleasantly surprised, €30 I payed but UK is cheaper
>>899273
>less than 20 quid
they're a meme for a reason anon, for the price it will serve you very good.
Anyone here do the Baja winter thing?
I am planning on car camping all the way down baj for most of the winter.
Looking for free or very cheap beach campsites and great fishing spots.
Any tips?
Anyone want to come?
We could have a 4chan caravan!
get your will squared away and take out a huge life insurance policy for when you get decapitated by a drug cartel.
>>895484
This danger is way overblown .
Mexicans are mostly very nice
>>895562
Anon dont you know its your duty as a white middle class male to propagate the fear culture surrounding freedom in the US? Dont let them know its not scary, they might quit their jobs and stop making the rich richer!
I didn't see a hunting thread in the catalog, so I'm gonna go ahead and start one up.
Where/What are y'all hunting this year?
Any new gear?
Any success so far?
Feel free to post pics of your prey/crazy situations and share hunting stories.
Also hunting general thread.
Me:
>Hunting public land in Texas, got lucky and got drawn for a standby slot for an archery only deer hunt which goes til January 1. Also has a decent rabbit and hog population.
> Using a Bear Cruzer bow at 70 lb draw.
>Gonna be hunting out of a summit climber and doing some spot and stalk.
Also I'm a newb at hunting so any advice is appreciated.
I'm also a bit of a noob, even though I've been on a few hunting trips. I shot my first moose a week ago. Sorry about low resolution, the guy that took the photo with his phone sent it to me, I just got this low res shit.
It was 5/5 bretty good though. Awesome hobby.
>>877179
Good job killing that magnificent creature for no reason at all. I hope you feel way more manly now.
>>877197
>no reason at all
the landowner was very greatful, it's part of his income to sell the meat to the butcher
This is the new /out/ meetup thread.
615 TN. I am convinced I am the only one to represent TN which sucks because I am /out/ newbie.
North Georgia checking in. Want to check out the abandoned nuke site in the Dawson Forest.
Riverside Ca. reporting in. Looking for urbex spots and non-pussys to join me.
/out/ cooking.
Guys I'm thinking about buying from Russia this to make meals in. I appreciate the design, but dislike that it's made of aluminum. Also that it usually takes months for anything from Russia to arrive...
Can anyone recommend a sturdy, stainless steel pot/pan/flask set similar to this?
What do you guys cook with?
>>906804
The Swedish mess kit is nearly identical, but steel, not aluminium. The Swede is also different in that it is symmetrical, not curved to one side, and slightly bigger. Was issued one, never used it because of weight - lid+pot is 870 grams.
There is also a very similar NVA (East german) kit, which is aluminium - I have used one for a couple of years, sturdy enough, and light. Also comes with a smaller cup insert in the lid - so you get 3 bits, the insert, the lid, and the pot. Lid+pot is 358 grams.
Or - soup, main course, and tea, as we're fed.
And finally there is also a West German variation, which is again similar - because these all derive from the German WWI mess kit, if memory serves correctly. Have not used this.
GSI bottle cup and/or MSR stowaway pot
>>906804
Now I use a flask cup+1L US flask for brewing coffee in the field.
NB! Look for flask cups where the handle bolts do not pierce the cup itself - those are crap & leak.
I'm moving to northern Michigan soon and really want to be prepared. I need a nice, warm windproof coat. I prefer the workwear look, any recommendations?
Currently I'm considering something like pic related.
http://www.duluthtrading.com/store/mens/mens-outerwear/mens-work-jackets/32526.aspx?processor=content
Stop calling a jacket a coat.
Michigan being cold is a spook. I'm from Tennessee and went to Michigan for a week in December and it was the exact same fucking temperature as where I came from.
Share tips on how to save your energy/muscles/feet/whatever.
stay home with mama
>>906490
Save it from what exactly?
>>906490
Get out and toughen yourself up.
I'm going camping for the first time on Friday, what should I expect?
Details:
>driving and hiking to location on Friday, coming back Sunday
>me and 3 other guys
>in North Carolina at Eno River (pic related)
>don't know what to pack
>will be swimming
I'm a bit of a shut in and have very little experience /out/ so I'm honestly pretty nervous
1. How experienced are they?
2. Weather expectations?
3. How far from a trail?
>>906424
Too cold to swim. You have to pay to camp at the primitive sites about a mile from the parking lot. You can't camp anywhere apart from the marked sites.
It's a nice area albeit limited. You should be able to hike all the trails in 2 days with ease.
>>906443
1. None of go out much but all of them have been camping at least once
2. It's not supposed to rain (43 - 45 F)
3. Pretty close since we're walking up a trail to get to where we are setting up
Hello friends,
In the past few days this rash has appeared on my body.
The thing is, I've done nothing but sit around in my apartment for the past week. Last weekend, I moved some firewood out in the forest. Does poison ivy commonly take a week to show up?
This picture is of my lower back. It started out as a few bumps on the right side, similar to the ones on the left, but then progressed into the continuous inflamed shit. It itches like crazy and is making me want to peel my skin off.
I'm just worried that if it isn't poison ivy, I have some kind of bug infestation in my apartment.
>>906361
it's probably AIDS
smoke weed while you still can
>>906361
>The thing is, I've done nothing but sit around in my apartment for the past week
Bed sore. Get /out/ moar.
>>906377
I was ready to meme this too but it's fucked up when something in your body is not right.
It's probably nothing but if it continues then go see a doctor, mate
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I haven't made a tracking thread in a while
In summary I'm trained to look for missing persons.
> track
> what to look for when tracking.
> how to look when tracking.
> identifying sign
> determining age
> identifying counter tracking
Ask me anything.
what's the best way to fuck up somebody tracking you
how do you get your job
>>906360
>what's the best way to fuck up somebody tracking you
There are plenty of ways you can try and shake off a tracker and lead them chasing ghosts. But a lot has to play in your favor, like weather and fatigue, especially if the tracker has no relief to take over.
In essence you want to buy time, make a larger gap, leave less sign, deceive convincingly and to not be predictable (which is probably the most important)
My instructors tell me that lot of the military blokes like the SAS would break off or "explode" where they just split up and meet at a predetermined point, some 15-20kms away.
Which doesn't make your job easy if in a similar scenario, because you either have to split your resources, or wait for backup or be smart and deduce which track to follow.
In the meanwhile, they make ground and time.
I won't divulge how to "fuck up" someone though.
>how do you get your job
Depends where you are from, but since places like America have a strong hunting culture the skill is still employed and has a following.
There are institutions in Texas such as the police or rangers (I cant remember exactly) who are well versed in mantracking because of illegal border crossers in the badlands.
Personally, it isn't a job of mine.
I got into volunteering when I was in uni, and we occasionally got called to look for missing people.
The way we did it was a bit ineffective, so I decided to seek knowledge and find instructors and learn. I practice and employ my skills when I can.
>>906381
>uh well I volunteered for search and rescue a few times
>I've found 0 people so far but some other volunteers told me some stuff
>AMA
why is it so hard to find water proof light boots and light gloves?
where I live the winters don't get blow freezing, often. So I just want some light boots and gloves for those day between 40 and 70 degrees and wet.
yet the merrell moab waterproof boots, aren't. the $60 gloves I just got at REI, that claimed waterproof, aren't. They can't even keep my feet and hands dry in a light rain.
>>906352
why the fuck did you think merrell moabs would be waterproof?
its goretex you dumb ass
if you want them more waterproof get a spray treatment.
or if you really want waterproof bootsies get some rubber boots
>>906352
got a "waterproof drybag" manufactured by sea to summit, sold by REI, friend's phone was ruined. Pretty pathetic, had bought a bag a few years earlier and worked just fine.
>>906352
Goretex is NOT waterproof. It's great if you're just hiking in the rain or whatever, but anything more and it can get wet. Once Goretex gets wet, have fun drying it cause that shit sucks dick.
Some of you guys alright. Don't go hiking tomorrow if you are in the forest.
knife thread will be posted tomorrow morning
so long you Pepsi drinking faggots
>>906333
Take your shooting spree garbage to /k/ you autist. /out/ is a gun-free board.
>>906333
Czech'd
>>906333
those are some white teeth
Is seersucker good for /out/? This fabric is different from other types of cotton. It's tough and dries rather quickly. It's also pretty warm and cozy and looks aesthetic as fuck.
>>906192
Well.
>>906186
seersucker is for hot weather, as long as you wear it for that, then you are fine.
Post personal pics from nature outside. I got a decent amount from Maine this summer
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