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Just translated this text I wrote yesterday from German to English. What do you think?:

Realize your true potenial. Be yourself. Emancipation! Are the mantra of our time. The American Century of the Self is all pervasive with its idelogogy of self-optimization and self-display becoming increasingly the meaning of life. Your are priviliged and have every opportunity to seize life. So act! Apart from the possibility, that this can be perceived as a huge burden, I am of course priviliged as a white central-European male and a potential Master of the Universe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0nlygb1Qfw

But I ask myself, whether i can really live freely as a passenger. What about the train driver, the attendants, the smoking ban and my ticket. This background is always suppressed by the seemingly absolute freedom, that Property and Liberalism promise. So i find myself facing a choice: Coffee with or without milk? Do I want remain a poor, marginalized activist or do I want to ascend the career ladder? But i want coffee without cream, wirthout hidden implications. Here, an analogy to the theory of violence comes into mind. Of course i reject violence on the basis, that voilence doesn't happen. But here aswell an ideological screen masks structual violence, that is perpetated millionfold on a daily basis by police, military and corporation in the name of freedom and capital.
I have been told, that I just have to contribute a fair share to society and will in return receive an adequate ticket and rules, lake the ban on smoking, have to be obeyed.
„He's just emittered, that he himself isn't the train driver, but if he joins a party, he may well become one.,“ is the obvious response to my dissaffection with current affairs. But I don't want to lead anyone. I don't have the prentense to tell anyone how he/she should live. I this case I'm more liberal than a libertarian. Globally people find themselves in different religions, cultures and civilisatory and technological milieus. You can't force your way of life upon others. We have made this experience abundantly over and over again with Nazism, Communism and more recently with the Iraq and Afghanist wars.
I take liberertarianism, carried to the extremes by Objectivism of an Ayn Rand, more serious than it takes itsel, which is, considering the fact, that surpluses are privatized and debts socialized and subsidies here and tariff slashing there, not particularly difficult. But I take it even more seriously than it takes itself on paper and stick to Max Stirner: „Whoever will be free must make himself free. Freedom is no fairy gift to fall into a man's lap. What is freedom? To have the will to be responsible for one's self.“
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>>8408245
cont.

Even if you made me leader, I would still be dependent on the switchman, on the corporation, that pays my salary and diverts my taxes. Even if I'd get the train attendants under control, there would be police and military, EU and NATO, wating for me on the outside. I want to free my potential, but you don't let me. I don't have any demands and wouln't know who to point them at. I want to step out, but as i try to set my foot on the platform, I slide into free fall. There is only this one train, you tell me.
How can I develop freely and be myself then? Ich can cope with requests, but only if they are serious. Are you serious? Than take yourself serious, or I will.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsWzfGXmJaI

The world is your oyster and I am a pearl. If the world won't mature I will break its shell.
„Then go into the woods or Thailand's beaches“
No, I will stay here, and I am not alone.
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>>8408245
bump for freedom
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>>8408245
shameless self bump

I want some suggestions of deeply metaphorical and poetic poems, plays, novels, short stories, etc: in short, it can be either verse or prose, but with lots of imagery.

I want to read things in the same style of the Shakespearean language. I have some finginds of my own that I would like to give as examples: some are more bold and exuberant, some more classical, but all of them quite poetic. Here:

>Lolita
>Moby Dick
>Memoirs of Hadrian
>Some short stories of Isaac babel
>Aeschylus plays
>Some of Neruda poems
>Some of Coleridge poems
>Baker’s The Peregrine
>Some passages of Homer

Sophocles, Euripides, Pindar, Virgil, Dante, Pynchon, most of Joyce apart from some brilliant excerpts, Faulkner, all of them have been disappointments for me, because I expected a much more metaphorical and image-colored language. Not saying they are bad writers, not at all, just that they are not quite what I was looking for.
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Under The Volcano - Malcolm Lowry
The poetry of Cesar Vallejo.
Flowers of Evil - Charles Baudelaire.
Suttree, Blood Meridian - Charles McCarthyite.
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>>8408065
Read Nightwood by Djuna Barnes
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>>8408105

Nightwood is a 1936 novel by Djuna Barnes first published in London by Faber and Faber.

Nightwood is one of the earliest prominent novels to portray explicit homosexuality between women, and can be considered lesbian literature.[1][2]

It is also notable for its intense, gothic prose style.[2] The novel employs modernist techniques such as its unusual form or narrative and can be considered metafiction,[3] and it was praised by other modernist authors including T. S. Eliot, who wrote an introduction included in the 1937 edition published by Harcourt, Brace.

Eliot wrote in his introduction that "... it is so good a novel that only sensibilities trained on poetry can wholly appreciate it."

seems very good ;)

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Hi e/lit/ists, I am considering to join School of Life's seminar on How to Change the World. It sounds interesting, but it costs quite a lot (43 Euro).

For those who had been following one of School of Life's seminar? how was it? How do they approach the problem?

Link for the seminar:
http://www.theschooloflife.com/amsterdam/shop/classroom/how-to-change-the-world-english.html
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>joining a cult
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>>8408113
This. It's basically the political left quasi-religious cult with a trendy reading list to make you feel superior to those around you. Everybody I've run into who has anything to do with it is a pretentious asshole.
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>>8408059
>How to Change the World?

Why would I want to do a thing like that?

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What did he write that's worth reading?
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>>8408029
the rape of the little girl then getting thrown off the roof was hot as fuck mayne
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>>8408029
libra and that's about it. hes shit. read coover.
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Underworld is very good. It's a beautifully written story, but it is sort of dry. White Noise is fun and funny, but I don't remember how well written it was cause it's been a while.

Underworld's a favorite, I've been reading it for the past three months and only have 40 pages left!

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I need help. Im tryng to find a stephen king novel i used to read when a i was a kid, i only know a few things hope it helps.

So, it was a bout a average guy. He had a family, wife and a few kids (i think). He worked in a office type job and he played tennis or the there was a scene about tennis or a racket.

I think a women in the job flirt with him or something, and there's was a scene where he fucked his wife.

And i stopped reading there, i got bored. But all was boiling for this guy to have psychotic episode a murder all his family or something. Please help me find it. Thanks.
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I don't remember but I think I've read it before, hope that helps.
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how long ago did you read it? it'll help to narrow down his body of work. i've read basically everything he published through about 2002, and while your description sounds vaguely familiar, in a quick run through his bibliography nothing i didn't catch anything that matched in my memory.
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>>8408020
Between 2000 and 2005. It was a one word title. i clearly remember the sex scene with the wife.

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>comfortable
>cum for table
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>posting help helper aka the Finnish cäncer frog on /lit/
That's it, I'm leaving
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>spelled "com-for-ta-ble"
>said like "comf-tra-ble"
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Why isn't every language letter-by-letter pronunciation like the slavs?

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favorite book you've read this year the year of our current year 2016?

mason and dixon or J R
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>>8407898
I just read Gaddis's entire oeuvre over these past three months. J R is his best, but Agapē Agape was the one I connected most with. All of his books are great though.
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Moby-Dick or Absalom, Absalom! An unexpected favorite from me this year was Sabbath's Theater
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Mrs. Dalloway.

honorable mention to Blood Meridian.

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Is you or isn't you an writer? me is.
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Is you is, or, is you ain't, my baby?
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>>8407858
> be me
> can't remember anything more than the rough outline of a book's plot a few months after reading
> immediately link this line to a Tom & Jerry cartoon where Tom is thumping on a double bass and serenading a qt3.14 gril cat that I watched at least 15 years ago

why?
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>>8407870
Maybe you should sing the books you read.

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So niggas, how old where you when you grow out of the "In order to comprehend x, first you should start with y" meme and start to actually reading books simply and easy?
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The only thing simple and easy around here is your mom, kiddo.
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>>8407833

Op's mom is a strong independent woman. She tells me that every time I fuck her in the ass.
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>>8407977
>tfw 23 and never got fucked in the ass

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Finished this last night and understood most of it, am I a patrician now?
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Honestly, no
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no. isn't this an American highschool book?
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>>8407821
Not even close.

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Is minimalism an excuse for lazy, uncreative writing?
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>>8407746
No: just like maximalism, minimalism is simply another way to communicate.
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It just means that the writer wanted to express a message clearly, without having his readers distracted. If there is no such message, then the answer is yes.
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>>8407752
so clear communication is the only thing that matters? isn't the form important?

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Yesterday i opened a thread asking for opinions about this book. Well, im 100 pages in and i can tell that this book is one of the best things i've ever read, just wanted to recommend it to you guys, specially if you love Iceland or Nordic culture and landscapes.
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What is it about? I'm interested.
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OP, I really praise you for trying to start new discussions here.
Yesterday I was watching that thread, I didn't commented because I haven't read the book. And probably other anons were also interested and didn't commented for the same reason.

Here in /lit/ we are trapped to discuss memebooks only, and that's sad.
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>>8407691
>Independent People (original title: Sjálfstætt Fólk) is the tragedy of a man who is proud enough to sacrifice everything. It tells the story of Bjartur of Summerhouses, his family (especially his daughter, Ásta Sóllilja) and the 'world war' they wage against the harsh Icelandic landscape in which they live and the demons, imaginary or otherwise, that inhabit it. Bjartur has spent 18 years scraping together enough money to buy his own croft (a croft that is supposedly haunted by a ghost destined to bring failure to all who try and farm there) and is determined at all costs that he and his new wife Rósa will live as independent people. He is stoical beyond belief, often frustrating the reader to tears with his stubborn refusal to deviate from his principles, to the detriment of his wives and children.

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"The Illuminatus! Trilogy is more important than Ulysses or Finnegans Wake" - Timothy Leary, Phd
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>>8407539
DUDE WEED LMAO
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>>8407539
leary made a profession out of never growing up and selling that same dream to people who were probably never going to be in positions where they could never grow up. ur pics appropriate
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And he's right, you know.

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Should I write my MA thesis on YeCrthy? Bad idea?

*spits*
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>>8407519
He wrote on.
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I'd write it about someone in semi-obscurity. Makes more sense overall in the long run.
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>>8407519
write about DFW, that way you'll get audience pussy and impress your teacher. or write about a contemporary black writer. you wont get pussy but no matter how shitty your paper is you'll get diversity points.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qh7rdCYCQ_U

What are the best historical fiction books about the fall of Rome?
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>>8407485
Twitter.com
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I'd have a reasonable answer but I won't give it because >>/his/ and shitty OP

Please thank me for putting in this effort to improve the quality of this board
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>>8407485
I, Claudius by Robert Graves.

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