What's the right order to read Aristotle?
https://www.amazon.com/Aristotle-Desire-Understand-Jonathan-Lear/dp/0521347629
>>8409302
I said Aristotle
>>8409281
you don't.
t. john green
what's the most obscure novel you know of?
Andromache's Bedsprings, by David Andrew Clayton
go on. just try to find it.
>>8409991
you should be obligated to prove it exists
The one my grandpa wrote.
>Giant Spider
What did he mean by this?
He was referring to himself.
>>8409070
DUDE INTERESTING IDEAS RUINED BY BAD ENDINGS LMAO
>>8409070
isnt the spider only in the dumb movie? its been a while since i read the book but i have no memory of a spider in the book
>b8
How much do you read a day, anon?
>>8409040
Around 30-50 pages. I don't read much, btw.
I try to read around 30 pages at least.
5-6 hours, I work and I read, that's it
>tfw no social life
Don't you guys ever get the urge to make a blog or a youtube channel to talk about books?
With all those channels that only talk about YA isn't there a place on YT for discussion about serious books, isn't there a demographic for this? And I'm not really talking about academic level of discussion, just channels were people don't read just infantile shit, I mean, I can't find ONE channel that talks about Milton or Kafka in a more casual way.
Do people that read great books become more self-aware and, therefore, more afraid to receive critics for talking about more deep works?
What do you guys think about this?
Do it
Avoid being a psuedo intellectual
Learn to edit
Keep them under 10mins and post weekly or bi-weekly
I look forward to the memes and shitposting that will someday be based on you, anon
>youtube channel
Gay.
>>8408862
Maybe if english was my 1st language, my accent would be so thick that I doubt anyone would understand anything
Why is the lit community so afraid to embrace de plebeian way of having fun with the media? Are we more afraid of being exposed by the frauds we are than people that focus on music and cinema?
So a few weeks ago, an anon linked a new project for a book:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DsS1icqEhvB3e9C6-1wt_Y0WOdcWUUYs5-_trQaRxaY/edit?usp=sharing
From the looks of it, the book looks finished. So what's happening with it? If the original OP that made this is hear, I'd like to know.
First and only bump
A more recent, somewhat-edited version is here. A few people have editing privileges, but otherwise you have to submit editing requests.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pt7yVtCLdPQ287uPO1An2tpKqXm9TP6ERuMeuV_qVak/edit
I stopped making topics because they only got 6-7 posts so I figured people lost interest.
Anybody publish it?
Is there any other procedurally generated books I should be aware of?
>>8408821
>procedurally generated
What did he meme by this?
>>8408821
hypersphere
>>8408821
>procedurally generated
It may be interesting for you to read Lem, "Perfect Vacuum". A part about "Gigamesh" is dedicated to Joyce.
>Tolstoy is better than Dostoevsky
>Ayn Rand is better than Friedrich Hayek
>lets argue about inane preferences without providing arguments or point of views
let this meme board die please
>>8408816
>Arguments and point of views are better than inane preferences
So we've got gibbons history of the decline and fall of the roman empire for a beautiful history of the empire, but what is it there for learning about the history of the roman republic?
Plutarch
>>8408569
SPQR: A History of Ancient Rome by Mary Beard is a good quick read covering the history and historicity of the founding of Rome to the late republic and early empire.
The Catiline Conspiracy is briefly examined and holds as a kind of binding moral through the book, and if you know latin literature you won't miss any references.
>>8408569
I don't know of any secondary sources that match the fame of Gibbon, and so much of the early history (founding to the Gallic sack) is basically unrecorded and left to legend that it's hard to write a decent history of it.
With that said, there are some great primary sources on the monarchy (753-509BC) and the republic. Livy is the most popular source for the earliest years, and is only one of two that has a continuous narrative of the monarchy and the early republic. The other is Dionysius of Halicarnassus, who is okay and has some interesting moments, but largely lacks sense of proportion, spending too much time on certain things, and ultimately ends up bogging the story down with tons of rhetoric which, from what I've read, is largely ripped off from earlier rhetoricians. Also he's only published in 7 Loeb volumes which will run you about $200 total.
Polybius has a great history of the Punic wars. He's not as "exciting" as Livy, but is a better historian and a great teacher of history. Also provides a wider perspective on the Punic wars, since only Livy's account of the Second war exists; the whole range of Polybius exists, although much of it is fragmented.
Appian is like a worse Polybius with a broader focus, and his earlier books (not the commonly found ones on the civil wars) are a great source on the Republic. He's the only complete source for the Third Punic war, and certainly has his moments as a writer.
Sallust's histories only explicitly talk about very narrow events of the late Republic, but he's indispensable in capturing the political and social zeitgeist of a Rome corrupted after the fall of Carthage. Very short, extremely fun, well worth the read.
Plutarch may fill some gaps in the history of Rome before the empire, but it's often debated whether he's a "real" historian or just a storyteller. Definitely worth checking out, but back him up with some other sources.
Dio Cassius also has some existing, but fragmented, books on early Rome, but they're not great and can't really be read in place of a cohesive, if fictionalized, account like Livy.
Also Diodorus wrote at the very end of the Republic (~60-30BC), but is basically a Greek historian. Very little about Rome, and for good reason: He properly contextualizes a Rome which only recently had become important on a world scale in a hitherto Greek world. Not worth reading as a Roman history beyond assigning Rome in her place as I just described.
What got you into literature?
CHING CHONG CHING CHANG BANG GONG BWONG
>>8408515
crushing depression
stoner desu
Are the Witcher books actually good? and if they are, do I read be order of release or chronologically?
>>8408497
The two short story collections are OK. Not in terms of writing quality, but it's an interesting world.
The novels are total trash and should never be read.
>>8408497
>>>/sffg/
>>8408506
>reading translations
I got a degree in English but I only graduated with a 2.8 GPA because of depression and blah blah blah the other shit people always say.
I have zero interest in going back to university.
What do you guys do for work?
>inb4 NEET
Have a picture of the Chopin statue in Warsawa I took.
>>8408444
Still studying, so cant help you, but thanks for the pic.
Love Chopin and didnt know this statue existed.
>>8408453
No problem, glad you like it. It's much more beautiful in person
LOL 2.8 GPA
It doesn't actually matter, but it makes me suspect you're a fucking retard so just kys
Anybody interested in learning more about the life of Ted Kaczynski AKA The Unabomber?
In this thread I'll post quotations about:
>his childhood
>his relationship with women
>his relationship with his family
>his time in college
>his life after dropping out of society
>his favorite books, and reading habits
>the way acquaintances perceived him
If there's anything you want to know I'll try and find the relevant quotations.
leaving this tab open for later after some dev.
i know that he was a genius and wrote a manifesto prior to the bombing but thats it.
>>8408188
>his relationship with women
Was he a beta cuck or a chad?
>>8408194
On Ted's attitude towards girls as a young man
>"Lorin De Young played trombone with Kaczynski in the school band [...] He was quiet, immature, very bright in math and science. He was just a whiz," he said. "But he was socially inept ... he wasn't interested in girls, he didn't play sports, he wasn't much of a musician."
__________
On Ted's romantic / sexual experiences
>"aside from his mother, who doted on him as a boy, there appears to have been no substantive relationship with a woman in all his life"
__________
On Ted's affection for his female factory supervisor
>"His supervisor was Ellen Tarmichael, a soft-spoken but no-nonsense woman [...] Ted Kaczynski became interested in late July 1978. He was 36, and she was 29. [...] They had two dates, Ms. Tarmichael recalled. She said he seemed intelligent and quiet, and she accepted a dinner invitation in late July. It was a French restaurant, David said, and Ted "ordered wine and he smelled it, he made a big deal of it." David added, "He had a good time." [...] Two weeks later, they went apple-picking and afterward went to his parents' home and baked a pie. That was when she told him she did not want to see him again. "I felt we didn't have much in common besides our employment," she said. "Ted did a total shutdown," retreating into his room, David said. He also wrote an insulting limerick about Ms. Tarmichael, made copies and posted them in lavatories and on walls around the factory. He did not sign the limerick, but his relationship with the woman was known."
__________
On Ted's sole date with a girl
>"In her first public comments, Ellen Tarmichael said she dated Kaczynski twice, sharing dinner with him at a restaurant and picking apples and baking an apple pie another time. She said that while baking the pie at Kaczynski's parents' house, she told him she didn't want to see him again"
__________
Cont...
Proposed Rules on Writing a K-mart realist/Diet Pepsi minimalist Short Story"
- at least two consumer products have to be mentioned by name
- all characters must consumer a minimum of 1 drug (smoking, drinks, pot)
- a minimum of 2 characters, maximum of 4
- someone has to turn on a TV
- sentences can't be longer than 20 words
- no character can be rich
- no problems are made extremely explicit
Want to help add or subtract to my list?
ok one bump for the evening crowd (est)
>>8407777
Every time I go on long drives through middle America I encounter countless towns that look almost indistinguishable from the one in that pic. I'd rather see mud huts.
...Does K-Mart even exist anymore?
>tfw grandma is more /lit/ than you
my grandma is dead
>>8406922
that makes her /lit/ as fuck though
>>8406951
are you implying that I wasn't bragging about the very notion that you had just insinuated my anonymous friend?