Why does /lit/ hate this so much?
I'm just starting it, I know that the common criticism is,
>YA shit
Just because it's set at that age range does it really mean it's meant for that audience? Are there good qualities about the novel, what do you like or dislike and why?
it's taught in high schools so it must be bad
>>8410328
Get it through your skull that /lit/ is not one person. I, for example, really liked the book. It was like reading about myself when I was about the same age as Holden. There are many good qualities about the book. It's worth reading.
which do you guys recommend: Hackett, Penguin, or OWC?
hm i'm kinda triggered bc i didn't list them in the same order as i made the image
>>8410223
I've been recommended Bloom as far as English editions go, or Hackett for a complete works of Plato
Did you look at the archive?
We probably had this exact thread a billion times
>reading translations
Can someone tell me about a book that's actually funny?
This garbo and Hitchhiker's Guide both came off dated and disappointing.
>>8409925
a confederacy of dunces
The Illuminatus! Trilogy is funny but might be dated for a few people (wasn't for me though)
I found American Psycho funny but in more of a hysterical type of way
Slaughterhouse 5 had some similar themes to your pic related
What are some other American black comedy or tragicomedy books besides Catch-22, Lolita, Infinite Jest, A Confederacy of Dunces, Gravity's Rainbow?
Could Gravity's Rainbow be considered black comedy?
Would it be safe to say that speed readers are fundamentally insecure and in order to make up for this they brag about the speed that they read as their rodomontade? Is not the very purpose of reading to absorb fully that detail that lays within literature? How can we then, not find it axiomatic or selbstverständlich that those who are 'speed readers' are utterly obtuse, pretentious, and lacking of any sense of self-awareness?
If one is to 'speed read' through a book, their understanding of the book would clearly be of inchoate nature. You cannot retain information with the diaspora-method of 'speed reading'. It is such an antediluvian and obstreperous way to experience Literature. The people who follow this feckless method, are at best pertinacious and at worse pseudo-readers who in search of a métier have found, instead, a parlous, risible, and perhaps even a condign and jejune sort of hell.
If you can read 1000 pages on a whim and retain most of it, then why not use it?
Lazy ass motherfucker
>>8409888
Reminder that serious intellectuals don't get into arguments over how fast they read,
Your image gave me cancer OP.
I'm trying to find a book I read back in 3rd or 4nd grade that I can't for the life of me remember. The only details I can vaguely remember are the title had street (or road or lane), The cover was of a dark city, I believe a doorway that lead to a different realm, and that that real was shrouded in mist created by dog or seal like creatures called mist makers. Again my memory of it is very vague and some of what I said may be off, but does it ring a bell to anyone?
Picture unrelated but it reminded me of it
Good album
>>8410237
Came into the thread just to say this.
>>8409887
No idea OP but thanks for the sauce
>Been teaching myself French for four months
>Still can't read Tintin
Will I ever make it to Proust?
>>8409872
learn french by reading proust not for reading it
>>8409882
I'm not sure this advice is entirely right...
>>8409882
you are a memester.
Best translation?
None
>>8409867
Edith's
Doesn't really matter
What does /lit/ think of zines? Ones that cater to specific subcultures? Ones that produce shocking content or controversial opinions?
Tell me, /lit/. Do you have favorite zines?
zines were the 60s-90s equivalent of MY POKEMANS, LET ME SHOW YOU THEM
imagine the colossal arrogance of thinking people care what you think about that band you like which nobody else has ever heard of.
before desk top publishing, zines were shit because people would paste newspaper headline text onto pages with typewritten gibberish. after desk top publishing, zines were shit because EVERYONE would use eight different fonts on one page.
the content was irrelevant as long as you had the zine LOOK.
>>8409847
>>8409982
Jim Goad took a huge stinky shit on zine culture in these articles:
http://www.jimgoad.net/farts.html
http://www.jimgoad.net/goadabode/issue%202/undergnd.html
I like some zines, but by and large, it was a huge throwaway culture from the '80s and '90s. It produced some genuine freaks like Mike Diana and Randall Phillip, so there's that.
On another note, check out these dope-ass skinhead zines courtesy of you-know-where:
http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/post/84906960/
http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/post/84984765/
http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/post/85053288/
http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/post/85095851/
Does anyone know Greek?
No one knows Greek. It's a myth.
Ancient Greek? On this board? 100% no, although I'm sure some will claim to.
"The greatest of wonders is work, it shines over kings, over freedom, over free passages and over relaxation" - Arrianus.
"For who can alter another’s conviction? Failing a change of conviction, we merely get men pretending to be persuaded and chafing like slaves under coercion." - Antoninus.
There you go OP.
Hey lit, wanted your advice on self publishing an ebook. I want to do it on some platforms besides amazon, which ones have the biggest royalties and respect the most freedom?
lulu
>>8409808
Thanks senpai
>>8409781
You can, but Amazon has the biggest market share by far. To the point that getting set up on other places might be more of a waste of time than just focusing on Amazon. They also have perks if you exclusively have your ebooks there. Though you can opt out of that if it doesn't work for you.
I'm not shilling or anything but as things stand now, you stand a much better chance on Amazon as a self-published author than anywhere else. The other platforms are mostly used by publishers who'll typically have their books in stores too.
Two questions for you, /lit/.
>1. Is it plebeian to be taken out of immersive writing by a single dud sentence?
>2. Can this be overcome?
I'm reading Ligotti at the moment and I knew what I signed up for. I checked my clenched anus at the door and got ready for some Lovecraft-tier writing with some Lovecraft-tier spookiness. Instead I get instances where a bouquet of flowers is referred to as 'vegetation' and multiple uses of the word 'gravid' where 'heavy' would suffice perfectly. Given the choice to use the right word or a lofty ten-dollar word he never fails to go with the latter.
Lovecraft was not a great writer, but he was not great consistently. I'd say Ligotti is the better writer overall but occasionally has such stinkers that I get knocked right of my flow. This is just a current example but it happens even in fantastic books- the best ones seem to just have huge intervals between immersion-shattering blunders.
I just want to feel spooked again, /lit/.
>>8409710
It is plebeian to write dud sentences.
>deep dish
Even when they're swimming the fatty has one thing on its mind.
>>8409710
Is it plebian to be taken out of compelling music when a performer plays something wrong? Is it plebian to be taken out of an immersive movie by a terrible shot or line reading?
You've just got to accept that a lot of writers aren't 100% perfect. Either you deal with it or stop reading.
Does knowing the ethnicity of the author color your opinion of a book?
nice pun
nah
>>8409706
The second I find out the author has any hint of non-white ancestry, I put the book in the bin.
Not even joking.
Was Schopenhauer right about Hegel being full of shit? Or was he just butthurt because Hegel got all the audience pussy?
Hegel is my nigga. Schopenpooper is a gaygay dumb dumb sadboyyy
>>8409695
Schopenhauer was mostly right.
What small morsels and titbits of Hegel that were not nonsense, or ambiguous beyond parody, pertained to the apotheosis of the state and how 'Weltgeister' (Napoleon and pretty much any emperor-like ruler) were the natural and desired result of history.
>>8409695
Hegel most certainly gets you pussy, if understood somewhat decently. No one will really know what your talking about, but you'll sounds marvelously impressive - perhaps for that very reason. If you're able to combine this with a somewhat decent appearance, you're set for life, so I've figured out over the last years. It's an honest reason to get into philosophy.
>tfw to smart for fiction
apparently not smart enough to spell
>>8409572
I also know this fell.
>>8409572
I know this is bait, but I'll never understand how some people actually believe this when books like Finnegans Wake exist.
what's next step:
1. the world is awesome :) + affirm it
2. life sux :( + deny it
3. life sux :( + but affirm it anyway lol
>>8409490
4. the world is awesome :) but deny it >:[
>>8409490
The world sucks, let us make ourselves masters over it to better ourselves
>implying the fragmentary sense-experience (you have never floated in outer space in the orbit of Jupiter, hence you haven't sense-experienced it; you haven't fought a shark with your bare hands, hence you haven't experienced it, and so on) you've gathered throughout your life gives you any license to deduce that anything outside said sense-experience is awesome--or sucks--too.