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normal student
>take humanities class
>wake up with 20 minutes to class, it's a 10 minute walk
>get there 4 minutes late without showering
>look at slides on laptop
>note what the slide says because you're a fucking retard instead of listening to the actual meaning/content/explanation by the professor
>occasionally lapse and check facebook or some other retard site
>at the end of the class your notes look like a scattered copy of the powerpoint, with a few out of place quotes from the professor because you have no deeper appreciation of the subject or material so when he stresses something all you can do is quote it in bold and put question marks next to it
>skip several classes based on whether petty socialising overrides them
>"party" like a white bread piece of shit at hipster get-togethers where people with man buns discuss east coast rap
>do some/most/none of the readings depending on your constitution (either way, comprehend nothing due to lack of enthusiasm)
>go to final exam
>cram beforehand from barely readable notes, just trying to glean soundbites and gists
>take exam
>north american grade inflation gives you something in the B range
>say "like, i know, right? oh my god im so happy i got a B, haha i did NOOOOOO studying haha this class was too harrrrdddddddddd"
>go to starbucks
>graduate with a B~ average, maybe A- if you're a keener
>paradoxically, talk enthusiastically about how you're a little junior professional/intellectual
>jerk off for a year on daddy's money
>wait until daddy gives you a daddysmoney job
>rule over wageslaves until dead
>OPTIONAL: go to grad school
>be just as worthless in grad school
>focus in on tiny narrow purview with no passion but pretend it's your all-consuming passion
>continually post on facebook shit like #JUSTPHILOSOPHYTHINGS #JUSTCLASSICSTHINGS HAHA #WHENTHELATININTHEMOVIEISWRONG LMAO LOLLLLL WHERE MY CLASSICS BUDS ATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT WE'RE GETTING DRINKS AT [OVERPRICEDBAR] DADDY'S MONEY IS PAYING
>clog academia by treating it like a sinecure

0.00000000000001% minority of passionate students
>go to class
>surrounded by these well-dressed nothings 24/7
>can't befriend them because they're all rich vacuous niggers
>develop drinking problem
>try to remember why you love scholarship through a nonstop 10-year winter of being surrounded by overfed white noise
>possibly behead classmates

>>8408799
normal student writes a paper
>UMMMM HOW MANY SOURCES DO WE HAVE TO USE :S WHAT'S THE MINIMUM FOR A B, LOL??

normal student discusses student life
>omggggg i can't go anywhere without my coffee lol XD i'm DYING i took too many courses and my family is only giving me one vacation in europe this semester :/ *buys $16 designer cheetos with daddy's credit card*

>>8408799
>be shit at socializing
>think you understand everything better than everyone else
>spend too much time looking around and passing express, petty judgment on others (I'm an observer XD) and autistically worry about how you appear to them despite the fact that they don't give a shit
>be insufferable to be around because of your superiority complex
ftfy

>>8408759
Just get penguins or oxfords like a normal person.

>>8408759
Define worth it?
Broadly, yes. The paper and binding make them more durable than most large series. Plus they often collect several works together that you'd either have to buy separately or, in some cases are currently out of print and you'd have to obtain in less than new edition. The ones that are translations are often - but not always, you'll have to do individual searches to find out each time - relatively new and of top-tier (but not unanimously tops o fall time) quality.
All that said, the notes and secondary materials tend to be of very limited scope in most volumes - because the idea is books for reading rather than scholarly editions - so, outside of an author and contemporary (with the book) chronology they always include, you often end up better with the newer penguins or oxfords that tend to aim at the lightly scholarly college intro class reading format.

>>8408759
For American authors, you should try to find used Library of America anthologies. Those are probably the cheapest hardcovers on the market and usually have at least 3 of an author's books per volume,

For others, I don't think there's any cheaper alternative except something lolworthy like wordsworth.

>>8408746
So you were a pleb all along...

Only people I've known who read him were dumbfucks

>>8408746
I've only read choke but i fucking hated it honestly it was so ham fisted with its ideas and I haven't read fight club but I've seen the movie and it's basically the same story

>>8408676
prove it

Some brave Twitter soul is going to have to take the plunge and link him here.

Honestly I think he'd love /lit/, not even memeing. I think he would appreciate our discourse, our dialectic, and not just because we like to post him a lot.

>>8408684
/r/GamerGhazi:

http://thephilosophicalsalon.com/a-reply-to-my-critics/#_edn4

One of the twitter people he singled out went through and annotated his essay:

http://genius.it/10242802/thephilosophicalsalon.com/reply-to-my-critics-part-two

>>8408689
I think he would prefer /pol/

>>8408673
Rabelais sounds interesting but he's very rarely mentioned these days so I'm not surprised that no one here (myself included) has actually read anything by him yet. I want to rectify this at some point, but there's so much other shit I want to read too that I have no idea when I'll get around to it.

can I just read the first two books and skip the rest?

>>8408720

I'd say Books 3 and 4 might even be better than 1 and 2. Every books is fairly distinct but there's a big difference between the first two and the last three. One of the things that bothered me about the first two books were these long lists (like: "Being of this age, his father ordained to have clothes made to him in his own livery, which was white and blue. To work then went the tailors, and with great expedition were those clothes made, cut, and sewed, according to the fashion that was then in request. I find by the ancient records or pancarts, to be seen in the chamber of accounts, or court of the exchequer at Montsoreau, that he was accoutred in manner as followeth. To make him every shirt of his were taken up nine hundred ells of Chasteleraud linen, and two hundred for the gussets, in manner of cushions, which they put under his armpits. His shirt was not gathered nor plaited, for the plaiting of shirts was not found out till the seamstresses (when the point of their needle (Besongner du cul, Englished The eye of the needle.) was broken) began to work and occupy with the tail. There were taken up for his doublet, eight hundred and thirteen ells of white satin, and for his points fifteen hundred and nine dogs' skins and a half. Then was it that men began to tie their breeches to their doublets, and not their doublets to their breeches: for it is against nature, as hath most amply been showed by Ockham upon the exponibles of Master Haultechaussade.
For his breeches were taken up eleven hundred and five ells and a third of white broadcloth. They were cut in the form of pillars, chamfered, channelled and pinked behind that they might not over-heat his reins: and were, within the panes, puffed out with the lining of as much blue damask as was needful: and remark, that he had very good leg-harness, proportionable to the rest of his stature.
For his codpiece were used sixteen ells and a quarter of the same cloth, and it was fashioned on the top like unto a triumphant arch, most gallantly fastened with two enamelled clasps, in each of which was set a great emerald, as big as an orange; for, as says Orpheus, lib. de lapidibus, and Plinius, libro ultimo, it hath an erective virtue and comfortative of the natural member. The exiture, outjecting or outstanding, of his codpiece was of the length of a yard, jagged and pinked, and withal bagging, and strutting out with the blue damask lining, after the manner of his breeches. But had you seen the fair embroidery of the small needlework purl, and the curiously interlaced knots, by the goldsmith's art set out and trimmed with rich diamonds, precious rubies, fine turquoises, costly emeralds, and Persian pearls" etc. etc. etc., on and on and on will passages like that go.

I haven't even read the fifth one yet, I just finished the fourth today. But I hear it's totally pseudepigraphical.

>>8408610
Greeks. Read the sticky and get the fuck off my board.

>>8408631
>le chronology meme
go fuck yourself

Spinoza and Nietzsche

Hahahaha I hate black people

Chuckled
Savin'

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>>8408593

>>8408337
>I was particularly inspired after seeing Franco's adaptation of the gunpowder scene
sauce?

>>8408337
>>8408348
also you're video is very good

>>8408337
is it being narrated by bane?

Decide as a group to openly masturbate in our cells ceaselessly.

>>8408268
I suspect you've misunderstood the panopticon.

>coming to

I guess you haven't been paying attention lately.

>>8408248
I'm actually writing something like this, but it's more like a demon and a dude who has a pact with her which involves doing various horrible things and being fucked to exhaustion by her (he becomes emaciated and perpetually exhausted early on because of her sheer insatiability) in exchange for supernatural powers. Also it's set in the near future and isn't strictly written as genre fiction despite having potboilerish elements.

>>8408309
Is it just some normal guy? I dont want it to be le funny harem protagonist guy.
I like stoic characters.

Is there a way to read what youre writing?

>>8408309
sounds like shitty fetish self insert fic

kys

>>8408027
you didn't like it and felt like you wasted your time

>>8408055
I've actually been enjoying it quite a bit so far.

>>8408075
no you haven't

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>read book
>think "so it goes" is an ironic phrase and satirizing people's cold-heartedness to violence and trauma
>mfw apparently everyone takes it seriously

I bet those people think the aliens are real and Billy's really unstuck in time and it's not all a hallucination.

>Record scratch.

I heard someone pronounce it 'Vonne-goo' the other day, is that right? I've been saying 'Vonne-gut' this whole time

>Giliam D. Waldis
Wew

Does Plato really rhyme with tomato and are the Ainu really hairy?

never heard of it, is it a fun story?

If you have to ask you'll never know desu

>>8407835

Read Shelley's A Defense of Poetry

bump because I want answers

>>8407749
Aristotelianism. Even if some of the conclusions Aristotle came to were wrong, he was primarily operating on information obtained through the senses. His method and system are almost flawless and I've yet to encounter a better ethical system.

>>8407759
This, and to follow up, Thomism.

>>8407759
How come virtue ethics was so marginal for several centuries? The recent explosion of literature since Anscombe's essay is really interesting, I have a hard time taking deontological or consequentialist models seriously.