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What do you guys think of Krasznahorkai? I've discovered him only recently and I'm considering getting Satantango for Christmas. Seeing it was his first book, do you think it would be a good intro into his work?
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I read The Last Wolf and Hermann over the weekend (New Directions just published the two short stories together) and loved them both, Hermann especially. I'd pick that up and give it a read if you're totally unfamiliar with his work.

I'd like to read either Satantango or the book he wrote which one the man booker in 2015 for best international + translation. He's heavily indebted to Bernhard.
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>>8787049
Thanks! I was also considering getting "From the North by Hill, From the South by Lake, From the West by Roads, From the East by River" (what a title btw) as it got praised in the press but I'll definitely give Hermann and LW a shot
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>>8786734

Correct me if I'm wrong but does anyone else feel like Satantango is basically Hungarian 1984? It feels incredibly similar to it except a more, bleak and depressing outcome. They can't change the system because the system wins them over in the end but because it's so utterly hopeless there's fuck all point in doing so and everything will continue the way it is as the village sinks further into oblivion.

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Holy shit this book is so damn good written

How is his other books the last 20 years so amateurish compared to his old books, like this one that was written in the 80s?

Did he write any other books that is as good or better as this one?
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>>8786705
>so damn good written
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>>8786705
I am aware of the fact that this is not a literary confession thread, but 'IT' got me into reading.

Now I am an average English major in Germany and living the dream till I die full of regrets and bitter hate for Stephen King.
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>>8786718
this, my mom sorta bought it for me on a whim in third grade since I was "running out of" kids books.

Terrible parenting on her part, but I kept reading. Tried going back to it, it was shit.

>>8786705
>Holy shit this book is so damn good written

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Fantasy
>Selected:
>https://i.imgur.com/r688cPe.jpg
>General:
>https://i.imgur.com/igBYngL.jpg
>Flowchart:
>https://i.imgur.com/uykqKJn.jpg
>Beginner's Guide to Fantasy:
>https://i.imgur.com/fOGNfWK.jpg

Science Fiction
>Selected:
>https://i.imgur.com/A96mTQX.jpg
>https://i.imgur.com/IBs9KE8.jpg
>General:
>https://i.imgur.com/r55ODlL.jpg
>https://i.imgur.com/gNTrDmc.jpg
>NPR's Top 100 Science Fiction & Fantasy Books:
>https://i.imgur.com/IJxTQBL.jpg

Previous Thread: >>8778842
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The Buried Giant.
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Can we have "To Kill a God" added to the charts
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>>8786629
>can a book that no one read be put on the charts
>p-plz
>it's not like you are jewing for me or anything like that

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Oh my god.

/lit/

Last night I was unable to sleep and took a walk around my neighborhood long after dark. I have been trying to write a novel but it's going nowhere and it has left me feeling very downcast.

However.

As I was walking last night I stopped to look at the moon appearing behind thick cloud and I had an idea. It struck me so strongly that I was overwhelmed and had to quickly return home to write it down. It took me 15 minutes to get home and in that time much of the plot and central characters came to me.

Is anyone here willing to let me know what they think about it?

It's intended for children.
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>>8786546

Go ahead
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As long as it isn't some dumb reddit meme
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>>8786549
>>8786550
A young boy lives in poverty with his mother and younger sister. Due to the cramped apartment the small boy sleeps in the bathtub while his little sister occupies the remaining bed, where she suffers intense nightmares night after night. He routinely has to wake up and console her.

On the television there is news about children all over the country suffering intense nightmares and getting little to no sleep as a result. Doctors suggest a change of diet, moralists suggest less violent video games, etc.

The boy then discovers the existence of a battle which is taking place between the guardians of dreams and the evil forces which are causing such nightmares and attempting to take over the minds of the young sleepers.

The boy is initiated into the sleeping world, and along with other children his age he secretly changes into the necessary uniform each night before climbing into bed and whispers the spell, which is an obscure and long-forgotten lullaby, which will cause him to enter the sleeping world where he and others fight to protect the dreams of sleepers everywhere and defeat the monsters and evil figures which are causing the nightmares. By day he attends a brutal school and attempts to keep his family afloat, but by night he enters a different world where he is tasked with protecting children everywhere from nightmares.

Eventually we discover that his own mother was once a protector of dreams too, but that after a certain age one loses the imagination necessary to become one. His sister's nightmares pass.

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What does literature say and the great philosophies about lonliness?
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that it's spelt with an "e"
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>>8786535
shut the fuck up you cunt and answer the god damn fucking question !
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>>8786544
He is correct though, which is the thing that matters most of all.

Also; it tends to be fatal.

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I'm taking a class next semester on James Joyce, and the plan is to read all of Dubliners, Portrait, and Ulysses by the end. I've never read Joyce. What am I in for? Is it even possible to read all of those books in one semester?
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>>8786500
>wondering if you can read three books in a semester
Your degree must not be literature related at all.
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>>8786532
Of fucking course it is. The thing is that I hear all three of those books are extremely dense and require a lot of time and effort to get a full sense of their brilliance. My question, more specifically, was: is it possible, in a semester, to fully grasp all of these books, without skimming, half assing, etc.
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>>8786645
>Read the books
>Read the critics
>Read the Joyce fanatics for some less popular interpretations
A month, tops, of extensive reading and you too can boast having read and understood Joyce among your elitist friends.

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Just ordered my first kindle and subscribled to amazon unlimited.

Post must-read books that I can get for free using unlimited, and if you want to, give them a short review. Any genre is fine.
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>>8786473
The art of the deal
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>subscribed to amazon unlimited
>I can get for free
>for free
>free
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>>8786493
>literally being this autistic

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What are some lesser known doorstoppers?

>inb4 Zettels Traum
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Bumping for interest.
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>>8786450
The Dionysiaca of Nonnus
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>>8786450
The doll by boleslaw prus
It's the polish war and peace

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~~~~~~~ HARRY POTTER ~~~~~~~

What is your coziest memory in the Harry Potter series?

What things would you do if you had to spend Christmas at Hogwarts?

Which Harry Potter character would you hope to kiss beneath the mistletoe?

__________

SORTING HAT RULES

0 - 1: Gryffindor
2 - 3: Ravenclaw
4 -5: Hufflepuff
6 - 7: Slytherin
8 - 9: SQUIB!

__________
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>I don't really have any because I was 11
>shitpost in the dorms
>Cho
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>>8786298
>shitpost in the dorms

No muggle technology is allowed at Hogwarts!
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>>8786300
probably kill myself then

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What are the best books with "lyrical prose?" i.e. lighthearted, playful, musical prose. Besides Joyce, who is probably the master of it.
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>>8786291
b-b-b-b-b-u-u-u-u-u-m-m-m-p-p-p-p-p
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>>8786291
Tropic of Cancer
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>>8786291
I have a feeling you'll love Dickens' orphan novels.

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what does /lit/ think of house of leaves? any books like this to recommend?
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is it like a comic book or something
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>>8786265
I can take it or House of Leaves it.
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>>8786267
it's a book that requires the reader to think in new ways, to decipher codes that are hidden in plain sight but are invisible at the same time. it has unique ways of visualizing the story by twisting the text

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What's your opinion on From the Earth to the Moon?
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Posting some pretty pictures meanwhile.
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does anybody here know where a penniless wretch may procure classic or otherwise noteworthy books in pdf form?
>I'm not trying to pay a publisher for reprinting a dead persons work.
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>>8786019
gen.lib.rus.ec
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literally google name of book + pdf
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Try a library, seriously

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What does your daily schedule look like, /lit/? I want to know where you put your time to read.

>age
>occupation
>daily/best schedule for lit
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>21
>neet
>wake up
>read
>sleep
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>>8786005
/thread
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>23
>neet
>wake up
>eat breakfast
>spend the entire morning reading
>eat lunch
>spend the entire afternoon working on my novel
>eat dinner
>jerk off
>listen to music, shitpost, or watch degenerate anime until I go to sleep
>repeat

One of these days I'll make it and be known as the eccentric genius. One of these days.

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How many of you have actually engaged with all the philosophical texts you use as examples or arguments when discussing philosophy. I'm going to be lenient here and say translations also count as direct engagement, but nothing beyond a published book that does not purport itself to be anything beyond a translation.
Is one being a psued if they haven't directly engaged with the philosophical texts, or are relatively brief (5000-10000 word long online articles (seen here http://www.iep.utm.edu/egoism/)) enough to suffice?
As Max Stirner would put it (according to this article I read), wanting to directly engage with a philosophical work could be in and of itself a spook, since the reader may be attempting to act as a "Philosopher" instead of in their own self-interest (which in this case would be learning about egoism and max stirner)

Others arguments could conclude that since philosophical works are so eclectic and hard to follow anyway it is better to read an accurate summary than the book itself since it may allow the reader to more fully comprehend the philosophical concepts. The core of this line of thinking revolves around the idea that philosophical concepts, like scientific concepts, are somewhat universal and do not need to be expressed by the original philosopher to be understood.
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Honestly any article is going to be a reduction that misses at best nuance, at worst entire concepts.
Stirner is a bad example because his book is so easy to read and well written. Even then, I had read articles and a book worth of Stirner shitposts, and his philosophy wasn't crystal until I read Ego and his Own.
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>>8785969
Well yes, but at the same time I was writing today about how humans constantly fight to suppress vice through agency and came to the conclusion that instead of following older ideals (follow god to go to heaven) or new ideals (follow money to achieve a state of bliss equitable to heaven), to instead only work towards your own goals and agencies, to essentially become self-driven. I had at once realized that I was not the first person to come up with this or discover this concept, yet I still understood it fully through my own reasoning. Since all philosophical concepts stem from logical lines of thought, then when one writes a book about one is similar to a scientist discovering something. In our system of logic these concepts already existed, we just didn't know about them yet. Therefore all philosophical concepts can justifiably be detached from whomever first wrote about them, and we no longer have to study philosophy in terms of its most famous authors.
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>>8785957
>wanting to directly engage with a philosophical work could be in and of itself a spook
No. A desire can't be a spook. A desire can be influenced by spooks (like thinking you need to be a "real /lit/ philosopher" so you need to read everything in it's original language). /lit/ is a spook, so don't let "/lit/" tell you what to do.

>since the reader may be attempting to act as a "Philosopher" instead of in their own self-interest
Yeah, kind of. But avoiding doing something for the sake of avoiding labels sounds spooky to me.

From one Ego to another: I can tell you that I myself find value in reading original works (in translation if need be). An article is going to be an interpretation, and while the author of an article may have good points, you would probably get more out of them if you're familiar with the source.

You can certainly use articles and websites like the one you linked as a tool, to see if you like an idea enough to read it in more detail.

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