Why is it that all the best philosophers throughout history have also been mathematicians, physicists, and geometers? Aristotle, Descartes, Leibniz, Newton, all mixed metaphysics with natural sciences and abstract math. Can one have a deep understanding of philosophy without jointly studying the sciences?
there is a lot of great philosophers who weren't arithmeticians so yes
>>8791622
What did Newton and Leibniz contribute to philosophy that you would place them among the best philosophers in history?
>>8791698
this also bothered me, he's probably a stemfag
Can lyrics stand alone as poetry, or do you need to factor that lyrics were written with the intention of being couple with music?
It depends on the set of lyrics. Most of Townes Van Zandt's songs stand up on paper but he's an exception in that regard.
>>8791598
I don't understand what this question means.
There's a ton of shit poetry out there, its not exactly a strict category
They can be.
What makes it difficult is that what a lot of people, myself included, consider good lyrics are often good because of what is going on with the music. Stripped of that, and read as poetry, they lose some of their effect.
But it's possible to have both, I'm sure.
>he doesn't read Arabian books
>he's missing out on real /lit/erature
>>8791564
i do though
Nobody cares, Abu
>>8791564
But I do, I've read Cities of Salt, was pretty good
How come it's so hard to come by poetry books when buying second hand ?
Is it because people tend to 'never end reading' poetry books but just read through novels and throw them away / sell them?
Maybe it's just Spain is a shitty country (which indeed is)
>>8791471
Because hardly any people buy poetry books to begin with, and those who do are less likely to part with their books.
>>8791478
this, poetry rewards rereading in a way even the best novels frequently fail to do.
>>8791482
Thats not what I said at all
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRSe2LODPNg
>>8791458
reading it out loud is the first big step
How did you learn to appreciate prose?
Do the same thing
>>8791458
by reading it
4chanlit.wikia.com/poetry
how are the Stephen hawking books /lit/?
>>8791388
I rad A Brief History of Time in high school, when I thought I wanted to be a physicist. It's technical heavy, but if you put in the effort, and keep up with the glossary in the back, you don't have to be too smart to understand it.
I enjoyed it.
He addresses the layman well.
If you want to have complex scientific ideas explained to you in the most condescensding manner, with kiddie pictures, go ahead.
Otherwise pick an actual textbook
do any of you guys actually keep a diary desu
Thinking about starting one for any trips that I go on
>>8791301
My posts are my diary. My bantz are my soul.
>>8791301
Yes. I mostly fill it with engineering ideas and notes on articles read throughout the day. Sometimes I write about society and how people relate to each other.
Who are some good swedish authors?
>inb4 memes
I know it's tempting but please don't
Mikael Niemi
Lars Andersson
August Strindberg
Stig Dagerman is ok
What do I expect from this?
>>8791228
It's great. It's great. It's great. Leo Tolstoy is a genius author. Leo Tolstoy is a genius author. Leo Tolstoy is a genius author. You must be smart if you're reading War & Peace. You must be s
>>8791228
Expect not to get much out of it because your autism severely injures your sense of empathy, so Tolstoy's inclusive love of humanity will be lost on you.
>>8791239
What would you recommend instead?
no bully pls
Why do we fellate this old Jew?
>>8791162
We need some kind of superior who validates our lifestyle choice of only reading the least accessible books.
>>8791172
this
>>8791162
>lives the /lit/ life
>incredibly well read
>memorizes all the great poems and great prose passages
>against SJWs
>against pleb lit
>likes the good 2/3s of the meme trilogy
>has sex with his students
>scared David Duchovny out of studying lit which got him into acting
What's not to like?
Anyone else read pic related? Has it helped you through rough times in your life?
>>8791122
It sounds like an argument for Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs with self-actualization at the top. You're probably better off reading about Maslow's theory on a website that can provide you with a more succinct argument.
>>8791122
I'm a few dozen pages in.
I hope it can.
>>8791147
>You're probably better off reading about Maslow's theory on a website that can provide you with a more succinct argument.
That's boring as fuck with no personality.
The Odyssey and the Iliad by Homer (~12th - ~8th century BCE)
Major Plays of Aeschylus (456 BCE)
Major Plays of Sophocles (406 BCE)
The Holy Bible (~8th century BCE - 1st century CE)
Genesis
Exodus
Daniel
Ecclesiastes
Job
Psalms
Romans
Gospels (Matthew, Mark, John, Luke)
Revelation
Apocrypha
The Aeneid by Virgil (19 BCE)
The Divine Comedy by Dante (1307)
Don Quixiote by Miguel de Cervantes (1605)
The Complete Works of William Shakespeare (1616)
Paradise Lost by John Milton (1667)
Faust (Part I and II) by Johann Wolfgang von Goethe (1808, 1832)
Eugene Onegin by Alexander Pushkin (1833)
The Major Tales of Nikolai Gogol (1840s)
Moby Dick by Herman Melville (1851)
Madame Bovary by Gustave Flaubert (1856)
Crime and Punishment by Fyodr Dostoevsky (1866)
Major Plays of Henrik Ibsen (1870s)
Anna Karenina by Leo Tolstoy (1877)
Dubliners and Ulysses by James Joyce (1914, 1922)
The Magic Mountain by Thomas Mann (1926)
The Sound and the Fury by William Faulkner (1929)
The Aleph and Other Stories by Jorge Luis Borges (1949)
The Recognitions by William Gaddis (1955)
Pale Fire by Vladimir Nabokov (1962)
Gravity’s Rainbow by Thomas Pynchon (1973)
Zettels Traum by Arno Schmidt (1970/2016)
From that list: Homer, Divine Comedy, some Shakesman, Onegin (entire Pushkin, really), Moby Dick, C&P, Karenina, entire Borges.
I don't care about 30 different Bibles, and why the fuck would I bother reading translated greek and roman poetry (inb4 learn these meme languages), at least put Plato here
>>8790953
>Zettels Traum
>>8790953
All
HOW DO I COME UP WITH A HIGH CONCEPT CONTEMPORARY YA STORY IDEA
I'M TIRED
EVERYTHING HAS BEEN DONE
>how
Be somewhat talented
>>8790758
Not everything has been done.
Don't be afraid to go beyond. That's the best advice I can give.
Literary Innovation...try that :)
You now realise that all philosophical values are rendered meaningless by the impermanence of our universe.
>>8790753
>believing STEMtards
The Universe is infinite, its ontologically necessary for it to exist in the first place
>implying that doesn't apply to everything and not just philosophy
>implying existence doesn't echo onward into eternity in some form
>implying this is the only universe
>implying you know shit
>>8790756
This.
There are pockets of existence and pockets of destruction/nothingness. Kind of like a cosmic beehive structure. But yes, ultimately infinite and eternal. If people had more than just a sci-pop understanding and looked a little deeper into the subject they'd know this. In Inflationary theory our universe is just a little bubble of spacial expansion in an infinite sea of inflationary space.
>writing cyberpunk short story
>trying to describe virtual world/mmo pvp scene
So I want to both make it so that normies can visualize it without going full autist mode and describing every single detail like a comic book
cringe
Read some of Ulillilia's book for reference. :)
>>8790715
it's way less autistic than it sounds, this is a relatively minor scene. Which is why it's hard. I don't want to devote too much of the text to it, but I want it to be clear