Some argue that money is the root of evil, that becoming ultra rich leads to corruption of one;s self and others. Do you agree or disagree? This can be viewed in the Great Gatsby as Jay Gatsby believed that money at a young age can achieve his biggest dream gaining the heart of Daisy ,but that dream died like him.
but most argue that The Great Gatsby is garbage.
some argue that money is the root of all evil, but have you ever asked what is the root of money? Money is a tool of exchange, which can’t exist unless there are goods produced and men able to produce them. Money is the material shape of the principle that men who wish to deal with one another must deal by trade and give value for value. Money is not the tool of the moochers, who claim your product by tears, or of the looters, who take it from you by force. Money is made possible only by the men who produce. Is this what you consider evil?
>>8785549
Most people on /lit/ do. In my experience, Gatsby is pretty well loved by most people. From what I can tell, a lot of people on /lit/ got a watered-down high school reading of TGG, which is unfortunate cause it is a really interesting novel.
Why did /r9k/ invade /lit/?
>He doesn't think the 2 are related on some levels
/lit/ is a /r9k/ spinn off you fucking newfag
Anyone else read/reading "The Sellout" by Paul Beatty? It's been hyped a bunch because it's the first book by a US author to win the Booker Prize (arguably not that monumental of an achievement, seeing as until recently the prize was only awarded to writers from Commonwealth countries.) I'm about a third of the way through and it's solid in terms of style and humor if not anything special as far as the larger canon of literary fiction goes.
Feel free to racist shitpost, if I wanted shallow and bitchmade meditations on context and the intersectionality of middle-class wannabe academics and actually oppressed people I'd join a book club; I'd just say if your main problem with the book is that the author is black, you might actually just illegally download it and read the first few pages and see if you don't kinda enjoy it. The main plot as far as I can tell is that a black guy in some fucked-up LA township is on trial for trying to reintroduce slavery and segregation in his neighborhood. It's obviously satirical, but it doesn't come from a place of centrist racial revisionism that I think is most offensive to the redpilled crowd; there's no pretense of white-devilry or apologetics for criminality like rich MFA students pump out into their literary echo chambers.
>>8785213
>tfw when to intelligent to read african american authors
>>8785213
i'm sellout-curious i guess, if i see an audiobook torrent i'll cop it, but when i actually have time to sit and read off a dead tree i gotta go with something more canonical
>>8785241
Fair enough friendo. If you want to get a temporary email address and post it in the thread I'll link you the .epub at least (could probably find an audiobook as well if it exists), but I get that there's only so many books to read as well.
>>8785218
I've always found it funny that the only people who refer to black people as "african-americans" are either trying to hide their power level among the easily-(racially)-agitated or are socially "liberal" folks who have never actually had black friends and wouldn't want them.
Could he have been more wrong? "I am more and more certain that a great deal of what now passes for literary study of the so-called politically correct variety will wash aside. It is a ripple. I give it five years. I have seen many fashions come and go since I first took up literary study. After forty years one begins to be able to distinguish an ephemeral surface ripple from a deeper current or an authentic change." (1991)
>>8785177
>politics and aesthetics aren't inextricably linked
Nice meme
He was only wrong about the time frame. The backlash is mainstream now, whether anons like it or not.
>>8785192
You think so?
What's that word for when you realise that you'll look back at the previous year and a half and realise it was completely wasted?
>finished a degree I hated
>worked retailcuck part time jobs
>barely read more than 5 books
>did maybe a month's worth of productive stuff in my free time
>went to the gym regularly and lifts went up but ate lots of junk food and had coffee enough to harm sleep at times
>main hobby was taking walks or driving and feeling sad about my life and telling myself I would work extremely hard to learn productive skills tomorrow
>wasted gigantic amounts of time on internet and 4chan browsing
>told myself every day that I'd start working hard and eating healthily tomorrow and having genuine false hope almost every time
Anon you sound a bit like the Knight of Infinite Resignation.
>>8785070
existentialism in the past regard
everything in the future is just as meaningless btw
We call it being.
What are some good works of literature that discuss finding meaning in a meaningless world?
How about literally anything
How about literally nothing
>>8785013
let me get this straight: you are looking for books that deal with disillusionment and finding meaning in a meaningless world?
good luck finding anything like that bro
Grab the nearest book (or if you've got an eReader then open up the book you're reading or last read), open it to page 77, then go down to the 6th line, and type the 6th word. See if we can guess the book.
>Instead
Well... that's vague as fuck... any suggestions on how to make this thread NOT suck? Pic is a hint, though doesn't narrow it down much.
>>8784917
>Furthermore
>>8784917
Better if you post a while line or sentence. A single word is almost useless.
Sharpe's Company
Sorry this thread will suck.
Thoughts on this college humor approved book infinite jest?
>>8784904
You have to start with the Greeks.
>>8784904
its the most complex book ever made, definitely not for shitters like you
>>8784904
look at those numales
>He doesn't know Latin and Greek
Whats your excuse to stay pleb /lit/?
i know the only language that matters... the language of MEMES
>>8784880
I am autodidact Greek and Latin. Fuck school.
I've heard it said sometimes that you have to have an MFA in Creative Writing, from a good school at that, to become a critically acclaimed writer.
Is this true, or is it just untalented people making excuses?
>>8784856
it's an excuse.
Lovecraft didn't finish high school, yet he has received lots of critical praise.
>>8784856
>have to have an MFA in Creative Writing,
Who on Earth says this? What authors actually have this background?
>>8784863
I suppose I meant more in terms of critical acclaim in one's own lifetime. Lovecraft died poor and starved by his mother.
thoughts on this book?
>>8784832
The pinnacle of Western thought and literature.
>>8784832
I would like a summary. I'm not reading all of that for 10 tips.
>>8784832
It's actually pretty good. I would say that it's 1/3 business advice, 1/3 autobiography and 1/3 advertising the Trump brand.
It explains who he is and how he came to be where he is (in the 80s), with some business advice sprinkled throughout.
He was a very similar person back then and using the same techniques as he used in his Presidential campaign.
>DUDE INCEST LMAO
wtf is Pynchon's problem
his cousin was probably a qt3.14 or something
>it's a Prairie's whore mom was a hippie and a bitch chapter
I liked Takeshi, Zoyd, and the fake Italian band.
anyone else think pynchon must have a daughter?
i read this book my senior year of college, like 6 years ago. i was a heavy pleb back then, but thought it was great. if i were to re-read it, what would i think? would i hate my former self?
Only college aged children like it so probably, that's why everyone on /lit/ loves it
>>8784632
I also read IJ when a raw raw pleb not that I'm still not to a certain degree. but one day I decided to check it out again and was immediately disgusted by how bloated and egotistical the work was, like why would I care what these pubescent boys were doing in the locker room? BUt then I kept reading and about ten pages later I again realized how deft his observations were and how skilled he was at connecting so many things in succession without seeming superfluous. I also started to see many references that I previously missed, especially pertaining to his many nods and jabs at continental philosophy and postmodern literature. I recommend checking it out again, the only problem is that it is quite the time investment but I do believe it was meant to be read twice
>>8784650
College-aged people are not children.
What are the best fiction books you read this year?
V
>>8784537
On the Edge by Chirbes and My Beautiful Friend are up there as well.
The bible desu
opinions on this?
>>8784513
OP's opinion sucks.
>>8784515
>>8784513
Cool.