Did the Arabs really preserve ancient philosophy? Would it have been lost without them? I want the truth.
Videos and articles would be helpful, but let's also see those shitposts.
And is the "Islamic Golden Age" real either?
>>8789067
They looted ancient philosophy from people who did. Then translated it into Arabic. That's literally it.
>>8789067
>>8789175
It's arguable that without Arabic literary culture which translated, studied, and commented on Greek philosophy that they would have been "lost", as least in some part. When the Catholics returned to Greek pagan thinkers it was through translations from the Arabic. But the Muslims didn't simply preserve the philosophies but expanded on them and adapted them to Islam. Note that Aquinas refers to Ibn Sina as "the commentator," not "the translator," and the clear importance of the Muslims' attitude of natural theology, realizing that they could and should draw truth from any source, including pagan, and how that's reflected in later Christian thought.
Yes, the establishment of the caliphate did in fact instigate new developments in science, maths, philosophy, art, architecture, etc. First, the unitary state brought together a plethora of previously divided people (e.g., Egyptians, Persians, Turks, Arabs, Greeks, Slavs, etc.). Second, this unitary state instituted a non-racial meritocracy that allowed non-Arabs and non-Muslims to participate in all but the highest echelon of society and freely intermingle with each other. This allowed a large wealth of untapped human resources to come together and make a new and advanced civilization. Cynical revisionists like the above anon won't want to attribute this to the Arabs because they, they claim, it involves non-Arabs labor, but this ignores the fact that this labor didn't happen without the Arabs (1) and that Arabs were obviously involved in these projects (2).
Been feeling alienated from everyone. Family, friends, housemates.
What are some good books on the philosophy of alienation and existential alienation?
I've read The Plague and I don't think I would enjoy philosophy as soft as Camus'. I think I'd like something more challenging, but not Hegel challenging.
Also open to novels about alienation.
And yeah, I know. Check the wiki. I'm making a thread because I'd like some less cold than browsing through a wiki. Some dialogue is nice every once in a while.
>>8789029
My diary desu
>>8789029
something*
Not entirely what you described but Kafka certainly comes to mind.
Thoughts on Nietzsche?
very cool dude. bit of a fag tho innit
>>8789021
very difficult philosopher. I say this because hes so easy to misinterpret. Once you really "get him" though hes actually one of the greatest minds of our time. ("our time")
>>8789021
redpilled about women
Be honest guys, how hard i am about to get memed?
Not even a meme.
negligible/10
Why would you think this book is a meme?
>>8789132
i found in an anime
Which is the better option: sending a book out to dozens of agents, to have them all reject it, or to self-publish a book and have all of a dozen people buy and read it?
>>8788968
You do both, create a popular web serial/novel, publish a "serious" book under a pen name after receiving offers to publish more YA shit.
>>8789001
What if I don't have the energy to do all that?
>>8789023
You have to write a really mediocre fantasy book that hooks in plebeians through tropes and "muh magic system" then string them along for years.
Ludwig Wittgenstein: "What inclines even me to believe in Christ's resurrection? I play as it were with the thought.–If he did not rise from the dead, then he decomposed in the grave like every human being. He is dead & decomposed. In that case he is a teacher, like any other & can no longer help; & we are once more orphaned & alone. And have to make do with wisdom & speculation. It is as though we are in a hell, where we can only dream & are shut out from heaven, roofed in as it were. But if I am to be REALLY redeemed,– I need certainty–not wisdom, dreams, speculation–and this certainty is faith. And faith is faith in what my heart, my soul, needs, not my speculative intellect. For my soul, with its passions, as it were with its flesh and blood, must be redeemed, not my abstract mind. Perhaps one may say: Only love can believe the Resurrection. Or: it is love that believes the Resurrection."
What are ya'll guys' thoughts?
"We might say: Redeeming love believes even in the Resurrection; holds fast even to the Resurrection. What combats doubt is, as it were, redemption. Holding fast to this must be holding fast to that belief. So what that means is: first you must be redeemed and hold on to your redemption (keep hold of your redemption) - then you will see that you are holding fast to this belief. So this can come about only if you no longer rest your weight on the earth but suspend yourself from heaven. Then EVERYTHING will be different and it will be 'no wonder' if you can do things that you cannot do now. (A man who is suspended looks the same as one who is standing, but the interplay of forces within him is nevertheless quite different, so that he can act quite differently than can a standing man.)"
I think he was lucky he was handsome.
>If he did not rise from the dead, then he decomposed in the grave like every human being. He is dead & decomposed.
Reminds me very much of The Idiot.
Just finished re-reading it and what surprised me is how little the vampire has changed. Has anyone read a good variation of the creature?
>>8788901
>what surprised me is how little the vampire has changed
That's probably because it's the same book as last time you read it?
>>8788920
Made me laugh desu
maybe try pratchet's carpe jugulum, the vampires in that were pretty interesting.
What is the most /lit/ architectural style? Neo-Byzantine has my vote.
Brutalism
>>8788885
You picked the only wrong answer.
>>8788895
Explain why
>starting with the Greeks
>not starting with Greek
You're not gonna make it.
>not starting with Linear A
Just give up.
What the shit is going on with that passage
>>8788773
Were the Greeks redpilled?
We're living in a Romantic period of literature. What is the most common type of novel sold and made in the USA? Romance novels, mostly for women. Readers today mostly enjoy reading self insert fantasy fiction. People want to be rescued from the awfulness of reality and turn to escapism.
The most awful examples of film, music, and literature are fantasies where people can burrow into and hide from reality. Many people killed themselves after watching the film Avatar because it seemed so much nicer to their own lives. There is also a global epidemic of opiods sweeping the Western and Eastern world, the drug of choice for people who want to leave reality. In the USA the highest concentrations of opiod users are in MidWest regions with that have been hit hardest by the economic decisions of the late 20th century.
And what is the latest Coastal trend in media? Virtual Reality and being a wageslave.
Who is writing about this?
>>8788660
>MOMS GONNA FREAK!
>>8788660
>Romantic movement
>anything to do with romance
Just stop posting
>>8788660
What is "this"
Did he ever say even one thing remotley intelligent or worth pondering? As far as I can tell his entire audience is
>LOL I JUST DID MUSHROOMS FOR THE FIRST TIME AND I DONT KNOW TO PROCESS THE EXPERIENCE SO IT MUST BE ALIENS OR MACHINE ELVES RIGHT?
Hes someone desperate to find meaning in psychedelics since he couldnt find it anywhere else. Thats the curse of psychedelics, you always feel as if youre right on the edge of cracking the code, figuring it all out, but in the end you never reach it. It analagous to the purple dragon videogame in South Park
No
Everything he said that could even be scientifically challenged was utterly torn apart, its chopra tier
>>8788657
He repeats good ideas he learned from other people, but anything he brings to the table is hogwash. There was a video of him discussing Finnegans Wake floating around here a while ago, prime example. He read a study guide, so his interpretations were excellent. Then he tried to compare FW to a psychedelic experience and intellectually shat the bed.
>>8788667
Chasing the dragon is a heroin reference, but I guess you have a point all the same.
ITT we post first lines, can be from books you've read, books you've made or just off the top of your head.
Can be as attention grabbing as you like, or as utterly shit as you like, just be creative.
I'll start with something I just made up.
>The downpour outside splattered across the windows like a crowd against a market stall. Or at least it did on half of the house, the other half lacking such a luxury as intact glass.
>Waking up to a loud crash rarely means something good is happening. It’s never “CRASH! Mom made pancakes!” or “CRASH! We decided to adopt a Golden Retriever!”
Here they come, marching into American sunlight.
what does /lit/ think of Hemingway?
Just read The Sun Also Rises, really liked it.
Um....anything else you want to know?
>>8788623
when I was a kid I thought he was writing about adventures and shit, like books for kids, turns out I was right all along.
>>8788642
do you think Brett really loved him?
When people say start with the greeks which one do they mean? Plato or Socrates?
I want to level up my reading skills so I can read the apex of literature like Spooks and Musashi, right now I'm reading basic stuff like Dracula, Lolita, and Steppenwolf.
>>8788564
>Plato or Socrates?
If you researched the topic for five minutes you would realize how stupid this question is.
>>8788571
Start with Homer and Hesiod
Then read a few tragedies
Then Plato then Aristotle then whatever you want
>>8788564
>Iliad
>Odyssey
>Aeschylus
>Sophocles
>Euripides
>Aristophanes
>Herodotus
>Thucydides
>Plato (Socrates is the star in his dialogues you dumb niggers)
Is any part of this book salvageable, or is it all terribly written?
It's good. He explains his views without muddying his words like intellectuals.
>>8788567
Honestly this.
As you've probably seen in the political evolution thread you'll find that we are a sizable contingent of redpilled NatSocs, and I think I speak on behalf of all of us when I say that Mein Kampf is a really well-written work that ought to resonate with most people today
>>8788563
What made Hitler truly scary was that in reality he was very charismatic, he became leader of Germany through his own guile and plots and it shines through in the book. You have to be careful not to be persuaded when reading it. Good thing he wasn't as good a military commander.