Why do 19th century Russian writers only have socially inept fags as MCs?
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>>8783650
because OP is a fag
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>>8783650
this guy's haircut bothers me
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>>8783654
so hot
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>he only reads fiction
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yeah but lisa
ive read :) gravitys rainbow :)
and thus :) sprach :) zarathustra :)
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>>8783644
Speaking as one of these people, I can tell you that I read for escapism, for heightening my connection to others and their experiences, living one thousand lives that I never could.
I never bothered with nonfiction (incl. phil, history, politics etc) because whenever I've tried it's simply seemed to me like common sense. Like a conclusion I could come to if I thought on it long enough unassisted. I genuinely can't think of one exception.
If anyone has had a similar experience with nonfiction books and found one that changed the game for them, I am certainly open to recommendations.
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>>8783656
I'm about to ruin reading for you: there's no element of any work of fiction you couldn't eventually imagine, given enough time.
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"I've done work that the wrath of God, fire, steel, time itself will never destroy. Let that day come when it will that will end my life, the day that controls nothing but my body. The greater part of me will fly eternal through the highest stars, and my name will last forever. Wherever on earth people enjoy good music, my name will be on their tongues, and if the stories are true, I will live for an eternity by my fame." - Kanye West
Do you think he deserved to be locked in a mental institution? Some of his lyrics are really pretty clever.
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Is this genuine, is this bait, is this ironic memery, is this post-ironic memery, or is this post-post-ironic memery?
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>>8783680
It's posteriorironic hemimemetics
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>>8783680
Well it isn't genuine.
Is Plato the biggest hack?
I'm an intellectual and well-versed in the history of Western Thought and Idea, and it feels like Whitehead's observation "all of western philosophy is a footnote to Plato" would be more accurately formulated as "all of western philosophy is a continuous BTFOing of Plato."
Plato is like the pseud who comes on /lit/ to samefag his own arguments and false flag his "opponents." By fortuitous happenstance Plato's writings survived in greater volume and quantity than other more insightful and coherent thinkers.
Now, Plato is essentially something for people who aren't intellectuals to read on the subway, and even Black folk have started to realize this. When are we going to collectively stop focusing our philosophical efforts on BTFOing the non-entity that is Plato and instead start spending our time and effort on more worthwhile endeavours?
Pic related.
I'm starting a discussion group where we disavow all Platonic influences and create a new philosophical movement. It will likely become one of the top 3 (conservative estimate) most important philosophical movements of the century, and you have a chance to be there at the inception. Leave an e-mail if you're interested. Happy to give more details.
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>>8783575
>who is Nietzsche
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>>8783575
Ok, firstly the tone of your post is very arrogant and provides no information.
Secondly, those ideas already exist;
>>8783611
Now, I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt; but you must present any critique of any of Plato's ideas. Otherwise this will just be a vague circlejerk of not liking Plato
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>>8783575
starting a group to disavow all Platonic influences would be a proof to Whitehead's statement. Everything that comes from sheer negation of an idea will eventually come to that idea. That's why Plato's so influencial: because it's easy to not agree with him. But if you base your philosophy on refuting Plato's points, then you're stuck in a horizon of thought that's determined by him. Negative predicate alpha is closest predicat of all predicates to predicate alpha.
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is this worth reading?i'm with the neoplatonists, desu
>inb4 zizek
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>>8783551
>reading obscurantist frog faggots
not even once
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Just fucking read it.
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>>8783551
>inb4 zizek
Zizek's relationship to Deleuze is actually very complex, I wouldn't categorize it as any fundamental agreement or disagreement
Any good books or resources for learning about japanese history? Not a weeb, but I've been reading a lot of japanese authors lately and it's inspired me to learn at least a bit about the country and cultural practices so that I'm not totally lost when they describe architecture and cultural practices. Any help would be appreciated
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>>8783539
>Not a weeb
Sure you're not.
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>>8783539
Incredibly broad question, I'm not sure exactly what you're after. The Cambridge history of Japan is good for sort of 1700s-present. If you want to read anything about pre 1700s Japan, you need to cross over into Chinese history, because that's before they split.
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>>8783545
> xD ur a weeb
does anyone know of anything similar to this?
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On that scale? The only thing that feels similar tonally (that is, with a coexisting fascination with art, violence, history, and posterity) is Underworld by DD.
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>>8783430
Some of W.G. Sebald with the drifting stories and what not.
However, there is seldom few that come close to matching the perfection of 2666. I know because I've been searching for years since I finished it.
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How long would it take a native English speaker to learn to read Latin fluently? Is it a difficult language compared to say, Spanish?
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>>8783363
Bump
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>>8783363
yes. be warned. but once you master it it will probably be the best thing you or anyone in this board will ever do.
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>>8783363
Yes
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Can we talk about Harry Potter please?
It still astounds me how great the Harry Potter books were.
JRR Tolkien set his stories in a fictional universe.
Philip Pullman set his stories in an alternate universe.
But JK Rowling set her stories in the human universe albeit with the world of magic co-existing alongside in secret. It's an amazing accomplishment. The fact that while reading we don't have to simply leave this reality an invest in another, we can just believe that somewhere out there people just like us pretty much are flying on brooms, learning potions, and so on.
It's phenomenal. And the character types are themselves ideal. I don't know how she could have improve it. The underestimated wimpy scruffy boy, the nerdy and officious girl, and the poor but loyal and humorous sidekick.
And not only that the but number of plots and subplots, the countless checkhov's guns and inter-textual references, the perfect mixture of serious good VS. evil struggle and the mundane teenage drama (crushes, exam stress, etc) form what I sincerely consider to be the greatest work of literature ever written. Yes the writing is rather plain, but Rowling is so good at structure and plotting that almost every sentence is valuable in some sense, either in providing greater depth to each character or in informing us about some aspect of the magical world.
I read literary fiction now and pretend I enjoy it for the most part, but the purity of Rowling's works will always mean far more to me than any other novel will. She covers practically every human emotion, every internal conflict, every existential struggle that we are likely to face in our lives.
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>>8783329
Funny.
We know you hate Harry Potter. It's not very popular here so I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish
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To smart 4 hairy pooter
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>>8783353
I actually don't hate it at all. I post most of the Harry Potter threads on /lit/
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bretty good
and your thoughts?
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>>8783243
Can you give more insight or go make these threads on r/books, or maybe r/4chan, dipshit?
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I think the Idiot is great as is all of Dostos primary works. It's a lot more light and gets a bit romcom towards the end but Myshkin's purity and his interactions with other characters really make the book. The part where Myshkin is talking about his viewing of an execution is one of my favorite moments in any Dosto book.
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>>8783284
>The part where Myshkin is talking about his viewing of an execution is one of my favorite moments in any Dosto boo
Yep, that part alone makes it worth reading.
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anybody else go into each new book they read thinking it will be the best book they've ever read? i do this a lot
it has only been true for some of the books i've read. grapes of wrath and catch-22 come to mind. im reading pic related right now though and its pretty darn good
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>>8783221
Moby Dick there's like 3 maybe four books that MIGHT be better than Moby Dick
You're on the summit of the mountain bud.
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>>8783237
what books would those be?
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>>8783249
Whichever ones he likes are the bettererest.
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Are DFW's "other books" considered good? 2016-11-30 17:57:54 Post No.8783153
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Are DFW's "other books" considered good?
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Specifically pic related and The Pale King.
Will TPK make me want to hit my head against the wall when I finish it due to it being an unfinished book, or does the book have an adequate ending (if you could call it that, as Infinite Jest didn't really have one either)?
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To be honest I think Oblivion and The Pale King contain his best pieces. They are far better than Infinite Jest. I do not hold The Pale King in high regard however.
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Hi OP, I think I can help you out. I'm almost done pic related and read TPK earlier this year. TPK is weird because there are some stretches where his writing is as good as I've read and others that probably wouldn't have or shouldn't have made it past a regular editing process. The ending just feels premature, which is expected. Worth the read if you like DFW.
Oblivion is not bad overall but only Good Old Neon really got to me. I'm on the last story, which is really like a novella. Again worth it if you already like DFW.
TL:DR Don't expect another Infinite Jest. If you didn't like Infinite Jest don't read them.
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Is this the Prima Official Guide?
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according to max stirners book the ego and it's own.
I COULD WALK INTO YOUR HOUSE AND TAKE ANYTHING I WANTED AS LONG AS I COULD FIGHT YOU OFF?
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>>8783131
Me and the law
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Law enforcement officers are my property, too.
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>>8783131
He probably could, Dave is a big guy for me
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opinions on this book?
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>just pretend like you give a fuck
Here, summarized the whole thing
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>>8783107
Well, this >>8783114
Also doesn't deal with the horrifying existential state you're going to enter as soon as everyone deems you a "good listener", which basically means they come to regard you as a masturbatory object for themselves to project their solipsism unto, rather than a human bean.
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>when you realize no one is publishing your novel
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dum frojposter
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>>8783093
>when you realize you threw away two years of your scarce free time
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>>8783093
yet
dont give up hope anon