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most people have a hair line but what he has cant be expressed in terms of euclidean geometry

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>>8890957
>centuries of religion diversity (until the shintofags took over)
>centuries of influence of erudite chinese lit
>even the merchant class produced writers during the Edo period (Saikaku)
>even some zen monks wrote funny stuff
>invasion of great european lit (particulary french and russian); most of the great authors during the Meiji period read/translated at least one european language
>increasing literacy rate, newspapers and lit magazines during 1880-1910

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>>8891064
This. Sadly most of lit only reads Murakami and Mishima

>>8890901
who?

>>8890903
Richard Adams

>>8890903
guy who wrote Watership Down

>>8890874
The Stand has a notoriously shitty ending. I read it years ago and remember absolutely nothing

The book does not get better.

You'll come to despise all of the characters and their holier-than-thou attitudes. Harold Lauder (I think that's his name), who's supposed to be somewhat of a villain, will be the only character you'll like because he genuinely despises the rest of the characters as much as you do.

>>8890907
Stu and Nick seem to be the only real likeable characters at the moment. Larry was good until he got stuck with the boy who's acts like he's from a tribe.

I'm partially reading The Stand due to Randall Flagg being in it. I'm planning on moving onto the Dark Tower saga after this

Why didn't you mention how they all got sold into slavery after being captured?

>>8890859

>Thucydides
>History

>>8892081
Are you implying Thucydides isn't the basis of all academic history?

Honestly I feel Animal Farm is a much better books. Love reading everything slowly being corrupted into what basically is 1984.

>>8890777
The story is pretty good but at the end it becomes sort of silly. Orwell is more talented to talk about the inner feelings of an outcast blending in than action scenes or the negotiation wiht big brother. The end is brilliant though.

>>8890777
I thought the story was boring and Orwell was a better non-fiction writer than fiction writer. That said he does present an interesting world where people are trapped by language.

>https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B9QDHej9UGAdcDhWVEllMzJBSEk

Contains language learning pdfs with almost all languages on earth

>>8890576
fact. spanish people can't speak foreign languages. Heard a spanish guy speak german two weeks ago I still have nightmares

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>>8890616
Achtung Señor, you drop something!!

>>8890560
Nothing. Just read the damned book. Also I loved it.

It is perhaps the greatest book I've ever read.
Give it time. It is pretty straightforward in terms of prose but with unbelievable depth behind it. Tolstoy wasn't paid per page (he wrote many short stories, after all), he wrote each sentence because he had to.

>>8890560
a fucking meme

nothing but autistic cunts in there lads

Are you the same faggot who bans people for using words you dont like?
If so, kill yourself

>>8890588
no that was another discord whose admin sperged out and shut it down 2 days in

>>8890522
>not selfpublishing

>>8890522
>look mum I shit posted again hah

bump. dont be anti semetic guys

There were a lot less options in Spinozas time

>>8890445
Spinoza is a rationalist. Through his geometric method we use the first ten proofs to prove that everything participates in a singular substance (not many like Descartes postulated) that Spinoza calls God or Nature. Because everything is a mode that is expressed by this substance, it has no power outside of the substance. Therefore, all of our actions are determined by the rational laws of the Universe. The rational laws of the Universe have embedded effects in each of their causes. Things happen to modes by other modes, there is an embedded effect depending on the status of that mode. Therefore, the mode feels an affect, an emotional and sensational response, to the cause and its power changes in some way. If it feels joy, then the other thing increases its power, and it loves the thing, sadness affects and the disposition of hate decrease power. By understanding this series of predetermined causes and effects we can come to love all things, because they are as they are and will act as they act. If we believe we cannot change how things are, then we will love all that takes place because it will always add to our power. If we believe we can change and manipulate things, we will come to hate them when we find that we are not in control over Substance. There is no other Universe to go to where things go differently. Because we participate in Substance, our power is limited by the power of other things. Thus, for Spinoza, our love of God is an acceptance of what substance is, and because we are in substance, a love of ourselves and the world. No, there is no free will. We are in some ways, just taking part in the infinite expression of Substance. Now, Spinoza is conceived of as a "hard determinist" and analytics have done good work to strip the poetic beauty of the last parts of the Ethics and their understanding of the practicality of pure joy in substance.
I have limits to my understanding of Spinoza, but I would like to discuss him further if I am unclear. Further, the book "Practical Philosophy" by Gilles Deleuze is my preferred accessible companion to Spinoza.

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>>8887448
You were pretty spot on apart from the madness.

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Got genuine emotion out of me.

harry potter is a narcotic novel, theres no good literature that takes you apart of reality

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>>8890380
pic related
>>8890390
Go read Pedro Paramo

>>8890380
>What outdoes it in the field?

I'm going to take the field as Bildunsroman and direct you towards Joyce's Portrait of the Artist as a perfect counter example

bad definitions and the only example given is not even literature (nor fantasy, by most standards)

in conclusion: bad thread (good movie!)

>>8890002
I always saw it as this

Low fantasy is like the real world only with some magical elements. Maybe fictional races and species similar to what u might see in science fiction as aliens. But it's overall more bound in realism

High fantasy is just fuckin crazy and you can have elves riding on brooms while their bat giant flying turtle soars the sky with a castle made completely of a fictional magic mineral. Not so much bound in realism.

I didn't like that film at all

>>8889930
The book "Dune" is divided into three "books" (i.e. parts), like the book Paradise Lost is divided into twelve.
This is only the first book. The second book is Dune Messiah.
Read the appendices whenever- you'd probably appreciate them more after though.
The Dune series is six books, to be read in sequence:
>Dune
>Dune Messiah
>Children of Dune
>God-Emperor of Dune
>Heretics of Dune
>Chapterhouse: Dune
There is no large canon universe. There's only these six books, by Frank Herbert.
Oh, and
>The Dune Encyclopedia
which is out of print, and not by Frank- it's a kind of professional fan project- but it was approved by him. You may want to check it out; it's interesting.
There -is- a series of cashgrab hackjobs by Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Anderson. Utterly ignore these.

Yeah, authors put "books" inside their books all the time, they're basically just super chapters. Usually they'll put 3 in there cause that mirrors the 3 act structure of most stories.

>>8889939
Ah, okay.
I see I've misunderstood many things, admittedly I'm an amateur in novels and only started really getting into them as a hobby as of recently and haven't read a great variety of books.
What I meant by canon universe was there's an entire ecology to keep track of as opposed to linear stories following a single cast taking place in familiar territories, I suppose I used the term "canon universe" loosely.
I've heard of the "continuation" of Dune done by Brian and I've pretty much got it that I should stay away.
Thanks for the clear up though, I appreciate it.

>>8889771

Knowing what's "in there" I think is what saddens us more than what is "out there".

Investigations of the soul will, for better or worse, lead to suffering, if not to understanding.


cool pic btw :)

>>8889771
Consider the alternative. Imagine the reality we live in was simple, manageable, controllable, understandable. Were it so, you would be happy for a while and then bored. Life would be less exciting and less worth living. Learn to appreciate the grandeur and the struggle.

>>8889771
I get sad because of my own stunted life. I'm trapped. I can't get out from this hell and reading just makes me realise all of the possibilities I can never experience.