About to start this in English, it's the third edition according to the translator's preface.
What should i expect?
>pic very related
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>in English
no fucking english class ever assigns Heidegger.
Admit you bought it because it's been infamous for being dense and impenetrable to feed your ego.
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>>8896801
Not OP but I assume they meant the language, not the class, project harder m8
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>>8896813
>projecting
You know where you are, m8? 90% of us are young males with inferiority complexes who read for their egos.
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Is everyman's library basically the best edition of a book you could buy?
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Certainly not but they are very nice if you can afford it or if you find them cheap.
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>>8896738
>cheap and hardback
Yes they're good
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>>8896738
my school library has a lot of these.
what should i read to overcome addiction?
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>>8896734
not my diary, desu
>tfw I'm addicted to DUDE
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anything. just become addicted to reading it.
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my suicide note desu
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How important is the properness of grammar to you?
How important SHOULD it be?
Is it alright for a writer to forgo grammar in favour of something he thinks sounds, looks, feels better?
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so long as any change to the language is done purposefully, knowing what the proper grammar is but changing it for a specific reason, then it's ok
if it's done out of ignorance then no
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>>8896677
Let's just say that I'm Himmler.
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Everyone has different preferences but I think in general everyone hates that one guy who wants to debate the fucking oxford comma all day.
Don't be that guy.
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I want to learn about philosophy. Where do I start?
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People will say to start with the greeks. You know why? Because the greeks were key thinkers from ancient times whose ideas were discussed by other guys throughout the ages. You can read any philosophy book, but you might run into some things you do not understand, or worse, things you think you understand, because you did not know what they were referring to, which is, most commonly, ideas of past philosophers. This is all to say philosophy is a historical thing.
Other than that, I can say philosophy is a huge thing in itself. What would one say about "how to start with music?". Anons would advise you all sorts of things. I say there is a reason you want to start with philosophy and this reason itself is precisely where you'll start from. Where you start from is not as important as how you go through philosophy and for that I advise you to remind yourself while you read it that not always you understand something at first read, or going through it quickly, that there is no end to it or final word to philosophy, that you must not react too harshly to things you disagree with and that you must keep in mind the context (time and place, influence and influenced) of each book.
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>>8896683
Thank you anon!
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TheGrecians
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Certified patrician here
Here is a list of works
If YOU (you) have not read each and every one of these works, including commentaries & criticisms AND have created your own certifiable opinion... you ARE a pleb
In no particular order:
HAMLET
PARADISE LOST
THE PORTRAIT OF A LADY
THE POESY OF KEATS
THE POESY OF SHAKESPEARE
ULYSSES
THE HOLY BIBLE
THE POESY OF T.S. ELIOT
JULIUS CAESAR
THE POESY OF DANTE ALIGHIERI
THE POESY OF HOMER
THE PLAYS AND STORIES OF CHEKHOV
CRIME AND PUNISHMENT
THE PICKWICK PAPERS
ABSALOM, ABSALOM!
KING LEAR
WAR AND PEACE
THE STORIES OF TOLSTOY
THE PROSE AND POESY OF MELVILLE
THE POESY OF JOHN DONNE
THE POESY OF WALLACE STEVENS
MACBETH
THE PLAYS OF SOPHOCLES
DON QUIJOTE
MADAME BOVARY
THE STORIES OF KAFKA
DEAD SOULS
CONFESSIONS
FAUST
THE PLAYS OF IBSEN
If you have not completed this list IN ITS ENTIRETY YOU (you) ARE
A
PLEB
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>>8896610
pleb here :(
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>poetry
>plays
>your opinion
Dont give a shit
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>>8896624
PLEB
Writing a historical ficiton novel set in the 6th century. Wartime rape at the time was common. How do I adress that? All of the protagonists who the readers can sympathise with are meant to be rapists (though I've not included any rape in the novel yet).
How do I go about including rape without alienating every single reader?
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It's not rape if its the 6th century
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>>8896587
Don't.
Selection bias— the reason why we only remember good times from the past, and why fantasy genres exist.
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Don't apologize.
"Rape" was less of a big deal then because of widespread child sexual abuse.
>The more I read, the less I write
>The less I read, the more I write
Why?
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cos ur a fgt lol
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>>8896551
LUL this, warigato no ya????? -teleports behind ur back- -unsheathes katana- pssht.. nothing personnel kid.
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>>8896564
Good conversation, friend. I'm glad I partook.
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Has anyone read the Oliver Ready translation? What are your thoughts on it?
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>translations
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>>8896523
Get the fuck off my board you filthy ruskie
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Its good
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I wish I'd never known you,
Nor fallen at first sight;
I wish we'd never laughed away the days,
Nor chatted through the night;
I wish you'd never shared your fears,
Nor passed your grief to me;
I wish I never loved you, dear,
For it could never be.
Yet
I'm glad we read our Tennyson,
For it still binds us tight;
I'm glad of that halcyon friendship,
For it brought to life a light;
I'm glad you chose to tell me,
For I was too blind to see;
I'm glad I love you, my dear,
Nor care I if you love me.
Undecided as to whether to substitute the Tennyson line with this:
I'm glad I sat next to you,
For Tennyson binds us tight;
Thoughts, gentlemen?
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Honestly throw away the entire thing save for the last three lines. You can still salvage from this something great.
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>Thoughts, gentlemen?
I liked this line best.
ITT: post your meme trio
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>>8896421
Love how it's apparent you never read IJ. What a flawless spine
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>>8896421
glad to see you haven't read them lmao. fucking plebtactic
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>>8896421
Maybe you should at least open one of them before you post
So, I've been reading Turgenev, his hunter's sketches, and i came upon his Chertopkhanov and Nedopiuskin, and as i read through it, within the first page, i was instantly reminded of Don Quixote and Sancho Panza. It was as though I had walked into a russian version of those two, and could not shake off the feeling. I can't find much info on turgenev, but he seemed a worldly man, do you think he read Don Quixote and made this short as an ode to Cervantes? Are there any other examples of Russian odes to Cervantes? What are some unexpected crossovers of culture you've seen and enjoyed?
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>>8896382
The Russians read the classics like everybody else. Cervantes, Dumas, Shakespeare, Voltaire, and particularly anything in French, which was the language of the Russian aristocracy for a long time.
So of course there is intertextuality - Dostoevsky was fond of Dickens after reading his novels in Siberian hospitals, for example. So this would inform some of the characters and squalor of Crime And Punishment (the despicable Luzhin comes to mind.)
Turgenev's Father's And Son's is a good book.
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>>8896531
well, i'm not surprised that there's intertextuality, but rather that this hasn't been mentioned all that much, nor is there any other russian don quixote representation i've heard of, hell, i hadn't even heard of this one.
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>>8896382
The protagonist of Dostoevsky's "The Idiot" is modeled on Don Quixote himself. Cervantes' novel is also mentioned in the book in reference to that character.
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Inspiration for the new year.
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With the year coming to a close I thought it'd be good to inspire others to do their part in making 2017 a good year for literary advocacy. Quote and image by me. Good message, huh? Don't forget that you can be a productive and worthwhile person just as much anybody else.
Make 2017 yours! :)
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Just the pick me up I needed. Thanks man.
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>>8896338
No problem. Proud to have moved you! Next year I'll donate more books.
How about you guys?
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>>8896336
This is just the pick me up I needed right now.
Guys, intellectually I'm all spooked out. I can't stand philosophy because of all the unfalsifiable garbage. Many fields like economics etc are just applied common sense and stamp collecting. I see novels as nothing but entertainment despite pretentious people claiming life / philosophical insights and tonnes of people will consider you a disgusting plebeian if you don't initially read shitloads of boring as fuck canon novels.
I think I am painfully adapting to the idea of the Internet age / information overload by abandoning any pretension that I can be an all rounder or even dilettante in everything. There are ten trillion books called "Introduction to [broad and important field]", even if you only have one of each field.
History is similar to novels. Shitloads of reading along with a shitload pretension thrown on top telling you that you truly cannot no nuthin unless you have an in depth understanding of the Greeks / Romans / Christianity / USA / WW1 / WW2 / financial systems / or shitloads of other topics I can't stand it. And then there's current events. I don't care about climate change, outer space, inequality, China, the EU, applied psychology, the education system, diversity, Russia, South America, refugees, nutrition, mental health, and more. Admitting just one of these would make me an iredeemable idiot, no doubt.
Has anyone else had similar thoughts? The spooks are powerful and must be removed but their removal leaves your mind in a promordial state that is more susceptible to spooks than before.
I go to the city centre and see people shopping and the streets are busy, which is comforting compared to when they're empty, but walking through then brings no epiphanies.
I am so past watching movies or tv shows, even ones that pander to "edgy" young males. I just about read books but only because society tells me I should, though I don't derive much enjoyment
And obviously I have an existential crisis but /lit/ is fucking pathetic in demanding that anyone who has one should immediately "grow up" and become a monotheist and wagecuck. I fucking hate wagecucking. Seeing attractive young people is humiliating. I tell myself every day that I'll soon work intensely on one thing but I can't bear to do this. If you're really good at one thing then there are people lining up to call you a tard for not watching opera or being able to run a marathon or whatever shit. So I do nothing.
Every "thinker" is at their core an utter fucking fraud. Nietzche is a Tony Robbins tier Rorschach test. Science and mathematics provide non trivial insights but only in ultra specialised ways that probably require autism to appreciate. I listen to In Our Time podcasts and Bret Easton Ellis podcasts and I think at heart everyone cares about nothing more than social drama.
I think we all need to man up and admit that money, youth, videogames, and good looks are as good as it gets. But not everyone gets.
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you're just fucking retarded
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If it were possible, one day you'd have looked back on this post and cringed
but nah it'll just fall off page ten in a few days and you'll never get a chance to feel ashamed of yourself properly
you might just die as a retarded NEET though, that'd be the worst outcome
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>there is no objective truth behind anything, including this sentence
>perpetual change is constant, so just go with the flow
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Why is philosophy so boring?
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>>8896296
Nigga you just dumb
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>>8896296
Why can't niggers into philosophy, /lit/?
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>>8896460
>t. salty guy who read plato on a subway