Why do you think you deserve to have your works read by others?
>>8889535
Have you read my work yet?
No, you haven't.
You will if it deserves it. Now get out.
Never did, if I got published it would only be as a result of any semblance of excellence I may have stumbled upon.
If I never get published, then one day I'll just have to accept that I'm truly terrible at the art.
On a more personal scale, sometimes I just feel I have an interesting story that people might enjoy.
>>8889537
Post a sample for all us anons to enjoy and ridicule.
Are there any books you consider unregoznied works of genius because of how extremely offbeat they are according to literary standards?
Is there a strain of unrecognized literature that is so offbeat that even literature "experts" think is crap because of how unstandard it is?
I mean like a parallel line of literature that runs across literaty history of unconventional writers?
>>8889525
Obviusly since its unrecognized by any sort of oppinion makers and large groups of literary appreciation, i am asking about your personal judgment of some pieces.
Perhaps a more cohrent question would be if there is any sort of literature or literary form that is simply impossible to be ever accepted by any standards that are mainstream or group standards.
>>8889525
No. This makes no sense since the 20th century has seen the growth of perhaps the most experimental and transgressive, edgy literature ever.
Unrecognized works of genius nowadays are those, I guess, that are too difficult (and long, just for added measure). Women & Men by McElroy, for instance, is out of print and there's a very small amount of literary criticism on it b/c no one wants to read the damned thing. The Recognitions also isn't recognized as a classic. etc.
But the funny part is that, when these books are mentioned, they're generally mentioned positively. It's like a sort of half-existence --- that's the most lack of recognition you'll get in today's society if you're a genius but your works are too long and difficult.Also, Darconville's Cat is fucking genius, one of the best books I've read in my life
Why does Aristotle continue to be accorded any respect in his profession as-such? Even Plato was better.
>the Cuttlefish does what I think it does because I say so and not on account of any detailed analyses that I have done
>thicc black women do not achieve orgasm, I know because I have checked
>Muh Elements
What are some things that Aristotle actually got right? Why should he not be committed to the flames?
>>8889505
Didn't be believe the universe was infinite?
Anyway, yeah. The most right of all the ancient Greek philosophers was Epicurus. Christians have always tried to hide this. Never forget.
>>8889505
He thought whales weren't fish.
>>8889505
Yeah, he sucks. I read ethics and it was mostly "X is Y because I say so"
What's wrong with genre literature?
>>8889390
Nothing inherent, but the nature of its reader base and publishing culture generates a lot of shite.
>>8889395
Agree.
+my biased opinion: Genre literature uses cheap tropes and they're usually lazily written. Genre-fiction authors sell books as products as opposed to works of art. They don't even try, they just settle with mediocre at most.
>>8889390
trope-adherence
I'm reading the bible to be able to understand it's literary, cultural, historical value etc., I'm set on reading the Pentateuch and New Testament in full, besides that what else should I read? Any specific books from the old testament are particularly important? Apocrypha?
>>8889387
If you're not reading it in Koine you're not really reading it.
Genesis, Exodus, Job, Ecclesiastes, 1 & 2 Kings, 1 & 2 Samuel, Joshua, Judges, Isaiah, Lamentations, Psalms, Proverbs, Song of Songs, Jonah, off the top of my head.
>>8889387
the whole thing in KJV
What is Plato's worst dialogue? My money is on Timaeus, I was interested when Critias was talking about Atlantis but then Timaeus starts talking.
Cratylus. It was the last dialogue I read. Plato was full of shit.
>>8889386
Nomoi
>>8889386
Idk not Timaeus tho. The resulting works were too important.
Hey, /lit/. Help me decided on a pen name.
Yoon Wie
Yonu Wie
Which is better? Thanks.
Definitely Yoon Wie
Of the two, any particular reason for the two choices presented?
>>8889421
>Definitely Yoon Wie
Could you tell me why?
>Of the two, any particular reason for the two choices presented?
I don't quite get the question. Both names start with the same consonant in my first language and they start with Y and W in English which are both semivowels.
>>8889384
Y. Yuno Liky
>6 books and a LP in the mail
>>8889378
Feels pretty comfy
>>8889378
Who is this amish faggot, I see him memed everywhere
if u see this while scrolling, u have been
visited by nabokov, lover of butterflies
you must read
lolita (easy)
pnin (normal)
ada (difficult
>>8889332
Lol whatever you were trying to do was really cute
>>8889332
Pnin's a lot easier to read than Lolita. It's probably his easiest book.
Challenge accepted
Thoughts?
>>8889315
Quite good I thought, though very dense. Triggers idiots on the left and right by treating the subject with nuance and actual data rather than high-flying rhetoric.
meme FOTM that everyone quickly forgot about
would have been groundbreaking during the Bush era though
>>8889315
Empirically wrong, theoretically naive, but neoliberal palatable for that. For the trash.
I'm going to be ordering some books online as I received a gift card as a gift.
Can /lit/ recommend me some very depressing books? Something that will leave me completely shattered.
The death of ivan ilych
One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich
It might make you stop being a whiny faggot too
>>8889487
That'll be the day. :^)
What's the best English translation for this? I can't bother with reading it in the original Irish.
>>8889229
I liked the Fagles translation
>>8889229
The English translation by Felix Brandlesworth is unrivaled.
>>8889234
I don't know, I wasn't a fan of his idea of changing Buck Mulligan's name to Gregory Berrycone. I know that was Joyce's name for the character in the initial manuscripts, but clearly there was a thematic reason for the change. The plastic knob joke just wasn't hitting quite right.
Any contemporary sci fi authors or novels worth reading?
Peter Watts
I recently read Flood and Ark by Stephen Baxter and enjoyed them thoroughly.
>>8889175
Have you read this one? The vampire shit was retarded as fuck.
Is this legit Jungian influenced stuff or just cheap new age self-help for women?
I saw it in a bookstore once and thought of buying it to a friend for her birthday.
>>8889136
I donno. Do a little research on the author (MD. Hmm) read a little of it
http://gen.lib.rus.ec/search.php?req=goddesses+in+Everywoman&open=0&res=25&view=simple&phrase=1&column=def
Seems like pop-psy.
/lit/ picked on me for reading a brain surgeon's (amateur historian's) book, The Alphabet vs the Goddess. They'll hate this one too, no matter how well done/relevant it may be.
WE
>I saw it in a bookstore once and thought of buying it to a friend for her birthday.
Why would anyone encourage consumption of this garbage? It is just another "empowered modern women" meme book.
Stop being ironic.
>>8889068
srsly
>>8889068
"""""""""no""""""""""""
>>8889068
> Stop being ironic.
You cannot be "ironic", though. Irony comes through the situation and/or happenings. The word you wanted to use is "sarcastic". Sarcasm comes from the person in form of snide remark or gesture, et cetera.
Never disappoint, /lit/.