>write for what feels like eternity
>five pages
Haha well at least it's a short story right hahaha
>>8893928
i want r9k to fuck off
>take an eternity to get through one or two pages because of perfectionism and ocd
>>8893928
>tfw when you double space it
With the year coming to a close I thought it'd be good to inspire others to do their part in making 2017 a good year for literary advocacy. Quote and image by me. Good message, huh? Don't forget that you can be a productive and worthwhile person just as much anybody else.
Make 2017 yours! :)
Just the pick me up I needed. Thanks man.
>>8893910
No problem. Proud to have moved you! Next year I'll donate more books.
I don't want to talk to any normies though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNWE17GqibI
What do you think? Is he right?
>>8893823
fag
I got an ebook this week and I must say, it seems to be far better than physical books for sure
>>8893956
I like the fact that you can read an ebook in public without looking autistic
Just finished Cancer ward, cheese and crackers that has got to be the best novel I've ever read. You know that scene in dead poet's society with the page with the graph on it, all about how a masterfully expressed, very serious subject will be superior? Maybe Robin williams killed himself because of how wrong he was tearing that page out, Solzhenitsyn proves is with this bad boy.
Every time I read something russian I ask myself why I bother with anything else, it is as if they lend voices to all the hundreds of souls Mozart tells the steppenwolf he has within him. Ive only ever read tolstoy and dosto but I have another solsh play and Gogol's dead souls on the shelf waiting for me.
I did borrow a few books from the library though so they will have to wait.
wild card topic for discussion: is tennis /lit/ as fuck?
>>8893663
When I first got into /lit/ about a decade ago (shit I'm old) I started out reading my dad's collection of Dostoyevsky and Tolstoy. It's sort of like being introduced to steak for the first time with a $150 Wagyu Rib Eye Cheesesteak; spoils you right off the bat.
On my list for this year: Brother's Karamazov, Dead Souls
>>8893882
Brother's K is pretty good, I'm just finishing up The Double and apparently it was influenced by the style in Dead Souls along with the majority of Gogol's works. I'm planning on getting the following his week:
The Little Demon-Sologub
Ice trilogy-Sorokin
Both seem like fun reads but I've not heard of much discussion on either one.
Who is the best horror writer of all time, in your opinion? Gothic literature counts as well.
>>8893550
Haha, books don't scare me.
>>8893550
Hard to say. I love Lovecraft but he is better at setting moods than writing in itself. What i've read of Poe so far was better but didn't fully catch me.
I think Clive Barker writes pretty well too.
>>8893550
A Turn of Screw by James is pretty good
Best Lovecraft short story?
Twist: Can't say Call Of Cthulhu
>inb4 Lovecraft sucks
>>8893507
At the Mountains Of Madness, Lurking Fear, and Nayarlahotep are a 3 way tie for me
gonna cheat here and say The Shadow Out of Time
>>8893507
The Thing on the Doorstep.
So comfy.
how this book be? I heard despite being his longest novel, its in the more accessible vein of inherent vice and bleeding edge
Is Inherent Vice very accessible? I might just be a pleb or simply stupid but it's hard for me to fully comprehend the giant paragraph single sentences full of scenery explanation.
I mean, I'm a few chapters in and it's interesting and funny but I need like a sensory deprivation chamber with a book light to read this shit.
>>8893672
i lent it to my mom and she reads trash genre fiction but she's into IV so I'd say yeah it is accessible
>>8893672
I listened to the audiobook, mostly at night with no distractions and had basically no problems following it.
Maybe give that a try if you're into it. Might be easier to hear than to read, I don't know.
What do I do to start writing a novel? What should I do in the way of planning? I have overall themes, setting, very rough summary of the plot, and some characters in my head but that's about it.
Just do whatever works. Writing is hard, that's all you need to know.
>>8893509
Seconded. A well-regarded female novelist of the present day once said she needed to write a few "practice novels" before she got any good at it. So take a moment to think about that.
On the bright side, it isn't too hard for someone to pound out a first draft in 6-8 months even if he's working a full time job. My advice would be not to stress over the draft itself and just focus on getting it done, keeping in mind that the next one (and the next...) will be better. I know this board skews young but sacrificing a couple years to learn how to write is NOTHING in the grand scheme of life.
Unfortunately there isn't much advice anyone can give you because everyone does it differently. Some do outlines, some don't. Some revise as they go, some wait until a draft is finished. Figuring out what works for you is one of the hardest parts of the process.
>>8893482
I just put words on the page; anything that at least gets me off my ass and writing. Once I have that, everything else just tends to follow naturally, like a stream of knowledge, following the path of least resistance.
I'm a web dev and /lit/fag. Like you guys, I'm tired of goodreads and also tired of the fact that we don't really have any alternative to it. So, I propose we make a /lit/ non-pleb version of goodreads. Why am I fucking posting this and not working on it already? Well, a coupple of reasons
>don't really have money to start on the project
>need to know if people will actually use the site
So, can everyone go to poll attached and give me a rough idea about whether or not most of you will use the site AND that IF you guys are willing and capable of funding a /lit/ project such as this.
I know this is not directly related to book content, but, I am legit tired with Goodreads and I think a lot of you share the feelings about it as I do.
http://www.poll-maker.com/poll934114x68734837-38 -> Poll
>inb4 gtfo attention and money grab fag
I'll make the logo.h
>>8893407
I think a need is felt for this.
RYM for books essentially what you want as I see it. You would basically need to open it to beta though in order to build up the database and reviews.
You might want to talk to the RYM people and see if they have an interest in helping or any tips for you in tackling this project.
I mean, I am interested, but ultimately happy with my goodreads so I won't be contributing. Have a bump though.
How do I get into Buddhist philosophy, /lit/?
>>8893376
I donno, man. Seems like a stretch.
>>8893387
hehe epic trip code, poster
fuck off
>>8893376
I enjoyed Alan Watts as a means to do that
By that, I mean I really couldn't take my own ideals and personal meaning earnestly as a means of guiding myself through life. Camus states that one must imagine Sisyphus happy but I feel like I can never really accept my circumstance and live within my morals because they are based upon my biology and prior conditioning. I've realized before there is no objective morality or the like and this isn't my first existential crisis or anything but I'm starting to understand the gravity of what that means in terms of how one lives and what it's like to feel suicidal.
>>8893272
>nonmemephotoofstirner.jpg
The amount of layers.
THE AMOUNT OF LAYERS!!Unless you are a fuckin poser and doesn't know that this is not Stirner
thats rudolf steiner
Get beat by your dad and only weigh 130 lbs
post /lit/ pics
>>8893266
>poem is free verse
>random unrhythmic bullshit with no coherent form
>just prose with line breaks
Why is this shit allowed? Every other contemporary poet is some hack nigger or woman writing random bullshit with no regard for artistry. All of the great free verse poets (Eliot, Williams, Whitman, Pound) were sensitive to the musical and rhythmic aspects of poetry, but there new poets don't seem to give two shits about poetics. What gives? Why does this shit get published?
I wish formalists would either leave or kill themselves.
>>8893262
>reading poetry
>>8893268
Yeah bro slam poetry is the superior form of art
Fuck Drumpf And Fuck White People
Where do I start with Gogol? Any background info on the guy?
do a gogol search lmao
>>8893283
>>8893257
Just read Dead Souls.
W-w-what
>>8893218
Fuck is this my dood?
>>8893218
>It says, far beyond what the eye can see, there exists an enormous hole that devours any and all things around it...that it could easily swallow giant animals, boulders, mountains, this very land, and even any of the heavenly bodies up above our skies!
This is actually pretty profound desu
dude benis in bagina