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Is it acceptable to watch a Shakespeare play being performed in lieu of reading it?
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>>8889053
Not only acceptable, but should be the way it's done. Not that a close reading should not be done to really analyze the play, but the first go through should always be a performance.
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>>8889059

Would you say the ideal would be seeing it performed in the OP?
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>>8889059

Don't listen to him. Hazlitt is right when he says we do not like to see the Bard staged. You must read it first and try your best to mould and meld your own idea of it--your own imaginary staging. After you have done so, you may go watch an actual staging, but soon you will find, if you have any imagination at all, that no staging can possibly live up to what's in your head. Any given production has at most a couple truly good performances; even the best productions will leave the most perceptive readers wanting something so much more, so please, do not limit yourself by attaching faces and voices to the characters that are not inherent in them. I am of the firm belief that you must be a Romantic in regards to Shakespeare. So many people have failed to fully appreciate him because of this superego telling them that they are not allowed to read the poetry without minding the realities (read: failings) of performance. That is the wrong way of looking at it. It is true that seeing an actual physical manifestation of the words on the page adds something, but it adds less than it takes away. You must first have had your own, private experience. Don't let someone else think and feel for you.

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Does anybody else encounter the feeling where they look at their bookshelf with excitement and yearning for what you still have left to read, but when you pick up a book, you get the sense that you're wasting time?

Often times if I don't do my reading early in the morning it's hard for me to actually sit down and do it without an intense desire to watch Netflix or go out. Logically, it makes no sense, but it's literally impossible for me to focus on reading sometimes for more than 1 minute before I decide to do something else.

Also, thinly veiled what are you currently reading thread.
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I feel you, I always feel bored whenever I start something, not just reading but also homework and other stuff. I remember reading something online somewhere about it and it said that if you stick long enough with something, you'll start to enjoy it. Kind of like "Go for another swimming lesson billy, you fucking loathed the first one, but it'll grow on you". The example the author used was being on a bus for a long road trip. You are using your phone playing Meme Crush. You know its useless so you decide to look out the window and appreciate the view, but it get boring af pretty quickly. If you keep looking out at sights, you'll sooner or later enjoy it. But if you go back to your phone, you'll stay a worthless pile of shit. Its not just for literature, but pretty much everything you should be doing: writing, gym, or whatever .
Sorry about typos, in the phone.
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>>8888998
I get that first excitement looking at my books but not the second part. I love to read. The negative feeling I get from reading is reading to slow to finish all my books. Its not even that bad. I cant read late at night without falling asleep eventually though. I'm reading actress in the house by Joseph Mcelroy.
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Currently reading the Iliad and I'm completely hooked.

Athena is mai waifu

So I decided to take up reading again, I found an old dog-eared copy of Gravity's Rainbow and since it's recommended here I started with it.

Is this book supposed to make me feel stupid? It's so dense and confusing.
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>>8888988
It's supposed to make you feel confused. I highly suggest you look into a companion guide and get a notebook to keep track of the characters and their narratives. Unless you're an 80 year-old erudite Englishman who participated in the second world war and has a deep understanding of Ouspensky, a lot of the references are going to go right past you.
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>>8888988

Don't start with that book. Start off with a small classic like 'Heart of Darkness' or something.

'Winesburg, Ohio' would make for a good starter as well.
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>>8888988
I happened to have a college course in the rise of fascism in Europe, and I'm in the military so I was able to keep track of the book pretty easily.
But if not, I'd suggest starting with the futurists then work your way through the cultural aspects of the early 1920's to 1945.

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>>8888983
James Joyce
Dubliners, Portrait, Ulysses, Finnegans Wake
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>>8888983
omensetters luck - william h gass
mason and dixon - thomas pinecone
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>>8888983
Samuel Beckett, William H. Gass

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go read infinite jest
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you cant tell me what to do bitch *turns on an anime*
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>>8888891
I already did. A lot of it was very boring
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>>8888926
>a book has to be exciting all the way through
really makes u think

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What are the upcoming releases in 2017 that you're most excited about?
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new pynchon book
nuff said
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>>8888879
Nah, this year Pynchon dies
Trust me
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>>8888879
If get Pynchon will release his magnum opus in 2017

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIuk8zIlRGA
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>>8888763
>women
>books
heh
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DUDE GORE LAMO
christ, it's like a bad family guy bit
Also, check'em
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When you think you've found a literary gf this is who you've found
Remember that

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yo first time here
never really read anything in my life wanna take a stab at it what should I read? I want something that will make me go hmmmm like pic related. also Im stupid
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kafka on the shore by haruki murakami
the new york trilogy by paul auster
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>>8888759
>didn't check the sticky
>also Im stupid
It all checks out.
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>>8888759
murakami novels are great for starters, you have >>8888766
this and nowergian wood and incolor tsukuru

I had a dream where instead of brains I had lungs.
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>>8888675
i had a dream where instead of piss i had cums.
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>>8888686
My dream is way cooler.

Lungs were huge.
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>>8888692
i was filling an water tank with my dick

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The greatest cinematic adaptation of Shakespeare? inb4 gook shit, Kurosawa is not quite second-rate
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kenneth branagh's hamlet
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>>8888557

>literally no one better for the role of Falstaff than Orson "Started from the top and made his way down" Welles
>Best, most immaculate staging for Act II, Scene IV
>Battle. Of. Shrewsbury

Chimes at Midnight, desu
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>>8888607
yeah i liked orson doing falstaff, good choice

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i want to read infinite jest. I a total pleb and while i have read some good books i'm not exactly a genius when it comes to reading. Is there anything i should be aware of when reading infinite Jest? anything I should read before tackling this? thanks in advance

(pls help)
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>want to read
>a total pleb
>not exactly a genius

its was literally written for you
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>>8888552
read it slowly and if it doesn't make sense, keep reading
every time you don't understand the meaning of a word, look up the dictionary (ALWAYS)
have patience, the book takes about 300 pages to git gud
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like all the best jrpgs, you cant judge it until you're almost halfway through its interminable length.

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When did you realise that when women complain about not being properly portrayed in literature by men what they're ACTUALLY SAYING is that "you have not portrayed women how I wish/idealistically view them to be" and not actually a character based upon a man's daily experience of women in his way of life?
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when i was 7 minutes old
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When I first got into literature. If every woman you write isn't a Mary Sue, you will be accused of being a misogynist
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>>8888487
Interesting

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Was it autism?
>muh 10000 quirky art films, each with its own retarded and barely watchable gimmick, that JOI was able to shit out one after another while making ground-breaking advances in physics AND starting up a top tier tennis academy, all while being an alcoholic
>muh completely unrealistic, stupidly complex nuclear war game with completely subjective rules, ridiculous tennis skill requirements and scoring pretty much made up on the spot, for a whole chapter
>muh ridiculously intelligent middle-school age kids learning university-level mathematics and understanding it
I could probably go on, I don't understand everyone's obsession with this meme book
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Welcome to postmodernism
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>>8888420
Was it autism?
>getting triggered at not very realistic characters in a novel where realism has never been the point.
Do you also read harry potter and sperg out because magic isn't real?
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>>8888476
>read Harry potter
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>Watching Jeopardy!
>Literary Terms category in the first round
>Clue about DFW
>"He used more of these than any other author...and then something about affecting narrative"
>Answer is obviously endnotes
>One pleb guesses narrators
>Another pleb guesses footnotes
>Pleb judges give her the money for an incorrect answer
>Ends up winning the game thanks to that ill-gained money
Now my family whom I'm staying with for the holidays think I'm a lunatic for sperging out. Thanks, /lit/
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>>8888342
Whats the difference?
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>>8888379
One are at the end of the book, the others are at the foot of the page.
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>>8888342

This is an extraordinary claim OP, an absolute bombshell. Do you have a link for this?

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>author starts YA series
>takes so long to finish it that the readers who were in the demographic at the beginning of the series have aged out and stopped caring by the time the new books come out

Explain this shit /lit/
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>>8888307
>implying most YA readers age out of it
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>>8888315
Ok be that as it may it was just an example. Writers take fucking forever to finish and then people stop caring once they release it.
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>>8888307
>can't read diary of a wimpy kid anymore because Greg is still in middle school

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