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Typing of the Dead

>>8913538
I taught myself by playing Runescape a shit ton about 10 years ago. You gotta work at it anon. Go through the lesson shit online until you memorize all the key locations, then force yourself to type like that. Always. Keep at it.

Also, this isn't really a topic for /lit/. >>>/adv/

Check out Tai Ping by Tao Lin.

But it's just three words anon.

>>8913536
Jaysis fuck put that away people will cut themselves on the edge

>>8913536
it was really boring. I liked the bazaar and the dead. the rest were just okay. nicely written but meh otherwise.

Also, we have to get a copy of Karl Marx's selected writings. Im not joking or b8ing, this is really the curriculum for my class

>>8913496
>What am I in for?
White people are racist. Not acknowledging race is racist. Europe is evul

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>jamaican author
>writing about race
It's going to be terrible all dealing with how horrible white people are and how we'd be better off without them.

this is not plebbit, boyo

>>8913482
not op but its acctually a good book

It was eye-opening when I was 12, but I have the feeling it would be pretty forgettable if I read it now.

I agree.

but muh western cannon!
that no one here reads anyway

First thing ima probably read is Mandeville's Fable Of The Bees or whatever just cuz I have a copy here, then the next thing will be Jerusalem Delivered probably

yo momma`! (and then osme@!!!_)

Goofs, gags, jokes, and rambunctious behavior

>>8913301
a beautifully written weird journey to complete some mundane task that turns into some magical lovely bromance that will make you shed a tear by the end. It's funny. It's odd. It's magical. Heartfelt shit my senpai. Best book I read in 2016. That and J R. Read it asap.

Because humanities is a brainlet discipline

There is no rigor in literature--at least, there isn't a rigor like what is present in science, religion, and politics.

I disagree that philosophy falls into your second category. I don't think it is widely accepted that average people can understand philosophy.

All my literature classes as an undergrad were glorified book clubs, and I took advanced literature courses (it was my minor). A game I used to play was to count how many times the professor or my classmates started their sentences with "I think that..." or "I feel..."

>>8913299
I didn't know there was any consensus that the average person can't understand texts about science, religion, politics, or anything really. As far as I'm aware, most people can pick a starting point they understand and work their way up. I'm constantly informed that I overestimate the average person and I'll never understand it. Maybe I do put too much faith in most people's intellectual capacity.

is it ironic that American Psycho has the best font and color scheme
Bateman would be proud

>>8913392
I always kinds think that too . it's the best by far. there's some other really good ones for obscure authors though. I always look at them.

>>8913392
It's not ironic.

>>8913185
>What's a good book to start with?

In what sense? Books by Proust or books related to DeBotton's theories?

I only read the first book but it definitely changed the way I think about love. that stupid shit with the pastry is the most pleb part of the whole book which is i guess why plebs seize on it as some kind of big insight, the real value is in swann's relationship with odette. of course the pastry shit is a foreshadowing of the value of memory and shared experience in relationships, so it's important, but for ever pleb who got to that part and stopped, they missed the point

>>8913192
Apologies for my vague phrasing anon. I meant the guy in the subject line and whose pic is related. I've read Jean Santeuil.

>>8913171
It's not /lit/, it's /mu/. The Last Days of Disco on the other hand is /lit/

>>8913326
how is it /mu/? there is literally nothing to do with music in it at all

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You don’t have to have read a book to have an opinion on it.

I don’t read novels. I prefer good literary criticism. That way you get both the novelist’s idea as well as the critic’s thinking.

1Q84? More like IQ 84 amirite?

Is 1Q84 good?

My Murakami take is I loved the first two books of his I read (Norwegian Wood, Wind-Up Bird Chronicle), and then everything I read after that didn't have the magic but I kept reading anyway.

1Q84 is by far the worst Murakami work I read, and I've read almost everything he's written (including short story collections) except for what I think about when running or wtv it's called. As the poster above me pointed out, Mirakami has a real magic about some of his works, and I was captivated by it at first too (my first book was Norwegian wood) but over time you come to realize that he's a writer that puts no effort into editing his writing, and rehashes the same elements and characters for almost everything he writes.
If you wanna read some actually well written works with the intriguing power of magical realism, read 100 Years of Solitude

How are you measuring intellect, and why?

>>8913173
I'm measuring intellect by my own jurisdiction, based on whether or not the things that I've heard other people say add up. Unfortunately, I can't say what those things are because I would rather dispute my own topic than derail it. Why? Because reading and studying philosophy have been a major institution in society for thousands of years, and in spite of what Harold Bloom has said about reading be so important, he himself said that we read because "we can't possibly know enough people". This seems to put reading in the category of other forms of pure art, like paintings and music, which aren't necessarily saying anything which can be understood the same way for every person, but which are open to individual interpretation of his or her own experience.

Education is no guarantee of learning. Anything can be degraded and deformed into mere "technique," in fact it's just human nature to abstract and abstract skills to make them more efficient, more ritualised, more instrumentalised, so that the learner can pick them up by doing the most efficiently parsimonious combination of gestures and with the minimum investment of thought and frustration. Capitalism seizes on this process and kicks it into overdrive, parcelling everything out almost cybernetically so that you can have an entire human society simulating inner humanity without actually experiencing it.

Education was one of the first thing the bourgeoisified. Modern society didn't just industrialise cotton weaving, it industrialised the cultural activities of being smart, looking smart, acting smart. It took aristocratic and clerical thought over from elites who were formerly too atomised, varying, and distant from one another to be pounded down into averages and parcelled out as stock experiences, and it multiplied, diluted, and homogenised them until they could be purchased or doled out by institutions as an Experience.

Our cultural memory still thinks that the real things exist in the simulations, so we think that "someone reading a book" means "someone understanding a book." But these industrialised, dehumanised processes are woven into the process of reading itself, and the infinite and subtle complex of activities surrounding it.

Finding someone who truly understands some philosophical book is an interesting experience. Finding someone who has the correct opinions about that book because he tapped into the false authenticity of the hermeneutic pre-expectations of other people who have already thought the correct opinions and with whose thought he must meld is not interesting.

>Are they new friends of "truth", these coming philosophers? In all probability: for all philosophers have hitherto loved their truths. But certainly they will not be dogmatists. It must offend their pride, and also their taste, if their truth is supposed to be a truth for everyman, which has hitherto been the secret desire and hidden sense of all dogmatic endeavours. "My judgement is my judgement: another cannot easily acquire a right to it" -- such a philosopher of the future may perhaps say. One has to get rid of the bad taste of wanting to be in agreement with many. "Good" is no longer good when your neighbour takes it into his mouth. And how could there exist a "common good"! The expression is a self-contradiction: what can be common has ever but little value. In the end it must be as it is and has always been: great things are for the great, abysses for the profound, shudders and delicacies for the refined, and, in sum, all rare things for the rare.

"People have some new thing to chatter about for a while, and then something newer still, and in the meantime go on doing what they have always done."

What's wrong with fiction?

>>8913150
it's all made up by some white male

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>reducing literature do a genre

wooo, let's get back in the groove

>natasha loves going hunting

Damn, no hymen skewering for Andrei.

I have to say I can't stand Natasha. I heard she was prime waifu material, but she's just a silly little girl and we have to read again and again how almost every single character just fucking adores her. Andrei getting swept off his feet makes me think less of him too. I can't see why this marriage would end up any differently than his first. It said he loved Lize once, and after the honeymoon period he couldn't tolerate her obsessing over trivial things like dances and dinner engagements. That's Natasha all over. It's especially worrying that Natasha's youth seems to play a big part in Andrei's infatuation with her. The whole thing seems doomed to me.

As for Nikolai, I'd be disappointed if I still expected anything from him. If he really wanted to make up for the Dolokhov incident he'd be doing all he could to get his father's affairs in order. He makes a half-assed effort, washes his hands of it and devotes himself to the hunt. Good for him if he wants to marry for love but he should be working himself into the ground managing their estates to smooth the blow. The Rostovs need Petya to grow up quick and bag himself a rich bachelorette.

Pierre has relapsed into his old ways. This Pierre is more interesting than freemason Pierre desu. Why do you think Andrei and Natasha's engagement hit him so hard?

I'm slightly ahead now and I have to say I'm looking forward to tomorrow's thread.

Stand by for some memes

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>'And do you remember,’ Natasha asked with a pensive smile, ‘how once, long long ago, when we were quite little, Uncle called us into the study—that was in the old house—and it was dark—we went in and suddenly there stood …’
>‘A negro,’ chimed in Nikolai with a smile of delight. ‘Of course I remember. Even now I don’t know whether there really was a negro, or if we only dreamt it or were told about him.’
>‘He was grey, you remember, and had white teeth, and stood and looked at us …’
>‘Sonya, do you remember?’ asked Nikolai.
>‘Yes, yes, I do remember something too,’ Sonya answered timidly.
>‘You know I have asked Papa and Mama about that negro,’ said Natasha, ‘and they say there was no negro at all. But you see, you remember!'

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>‘Ulyulyulyulyu!’ shouted Nikolai.

Paradise lost is a book you pleb

>>8913041
1 & 2 for the speeches
4 for the descriptions of Eden and Satan's "me miserable" speech
9 for Adam's "how can i live without thee" speech and the rough fucking that follows.

>>8913046
Don't speak about things ye know not, child.

>>8913065
Yeah 9 seems like an obvious answer. That speech was incredible. If 4 is when Adam and Eve are first introduced then yeah I agree with that too. I've always found them more captivating than Satan which is probably why I didn't much enjoy the first 2 books.

Should also probably mention I haven't finished it yet - on book 10 right now.