>"haha, no one's actually read [long difficult book]"
>mfw many people have read it
>>8912597
How would you know that they have read it?
I can claim to have read all kinds of books despite not even knowing how to read.
in high school i blurted out "ulysses by james joyce" in the middle of class. teacher and everybody was like "what?" and i said "oh did i say that out loud, sorry, i was just thinking about a book ive read."
>>8912603
try not hanging out with pseuds
Give Iqbal some love people. A rough translation of a beautiful poem.
This is a strange cruelty of nature!
It made man a secret seeker
It hid the secret from his gaze
The relish of awareness is restless
The mystery of life is forever hidden
Amazement is the beginning and the consummation
In the mirror house, what else is there?
The wave of the river is eager to move
The river is in the road towards the ocean
The wind is carrying tbe cloud away
Which it bears on its shoulders
The stars are intoxicated with the wine of destiny
In the prison of the sky, with chained feet
The sun, that dawn creating worshipper
Is about to bring the message " arise "
Having hidden itsslf in the hills of the west
It drinks the cup of the wine of sunset
Everything seizes the relish of existence
Everything is drunk on the wine of presence
There's no sympathizer for man
How bitter is the livelihood of man!
>>8912568
>A rough translation of a beautiful poem
>poem
>translation
Urdu literature is just an offshoot of Persian literature, and Persian literature has actually been extremely influential on Western writers for the past couple centuries.
>>8912580
I'm a westerner who studies Persian and it pisses me off how little Persian is given credit in any literary study at all. Even with its enormous and highly influential corpus it remains woefully under-translated. Urdu literature is more than just an offshoot of Persian, though, there are writers like Saadat Hasan Manto whose punchy, playful, realist stories of everyday life in Bombay are totally unlike anything in Persian literature. What you're probably referring to is the fact that the ghazal form (as in this poem), which is pretty ubiquitous in Urdu poetry, was taken from Persian. /lit/ has a pretty esoteric outlook but even though thoroughly odd stuff like Bottom's Dream or Nick Land gets discussed, I've never seen anyone mention Persian before, apart from a guy in a language thread who knew how to say a few words because his girlfriend was Persian.
(t. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad)
He can read only English and Yiddish.
He reads translations.
>>8912418
I'm pretty sure he knows most of the romance languages, including ancient Greek and Latin. I remember he said he can't read Russian though.
>2017
>listening to Harold Bluhm
>>8912443
Listening to any anon, 2017?
What should I read before I attempt Harry Potter? I want to be able to understand it.
>>8912369
start with the classics: twilight, 50 shades of gray, the fault in our stars
welp, its not easy have patience but thats will keep you in shape
>>8912369
what forum is this?
Hi /lit/, I was wondering if it's okay to skip the french in War and Peace?
I have the P&V translation and the french translations are footnotes; I'd really only want to bother with them if I knew they were necessary.
>>8912286
the footnotes are part of the book. not only you get to see the nuances in the expressions of the qts in the peace periods, but you also get to understand the whole point of why Prince Andrei goes to war for the 30th time.
tl;dr dont be a normie
you want to skip lines of dialogue
>not reading french
How do I go from apathetic, lethargic 'Nothing matters' to happy, care free 'Nothing matters'?
You can't. Life is suffering and happiness intertwined, there can't be one without the other, no matter what people claim.
>>8912278
Drugs
What are the absolute essential works by Freud that I should read before moving on to his other works and case files?
Literally everything but the dream analysis part
Was Freud wrong?
Ever?
Freud? More like fraud.
Alright, be honest, /lit/, what did we think of this book? Worthy of reading, or meme-tier?
Soap opera-tier. Offensively bad dialogue.
>>8912197
So bad it's almost criminal
Show was pretty good but the book is just smut with no real story. Kind of like GoT.
What's the first book you'll finish reading in 2017? Pic related for me, loving it so far
>>8912098
pretty glorious
lord of the rings: the fellowship of the ring
its my first fantasy book ever and i'm really impressed on how natural all these fantasy names sounds
This is great. It's the first black author I've ever read, too.
What are some novels that strike a good balance between being plot and character centric while being literary?
I'm basically looking for the literary equivalents of True Detective season 1 and The Sopranos.
Monitoring this thread because I am also interested. BTW OP do you recommend me watching sopranos?
>>8912259
Yes. Tony is the most intriguing character I've come across on television and if you have a basic understanding of Freud and existentialism it's even more enjoyable.
Bumping for interest
>he doesn't read purely for escapism andfun
>>8912054
I read to strengthen my moral resolve.
>“Personally, I am a hedonistic reader; I have never read a book merely because it was ancient. I read books for the aesthetic emotions they offer me, and I ignore the commentaries and criticism.”
>― Jorge Luis Borges
>>8912054
>He doesn't read for every reason there is within the universe to read.
Is maturity a spook?
>>8912028
yes
anything remotely related to society is a spook, even 'society' itself
>>8912028
Your mother is a spook
Do you like poetry?
Have you ever written a poem?
Name a poet you like.
Name a modern poet.
Ever read foreign poetry in their native language? If so, what language, which poet?
Write a poem to Xena, the Warrior Princess
Lets try to keep the thread alive for a while
>>8911958
i write some from time to time, they're still high school level though. I don't read poetry that much, i learn mostly from Bob Dylan's songs
So many teen faps.
>>8912031
gtfo grandpa
Does /lit/ listen to audiobooks?
>>8911939
No but I would if I had somewhere to drive to.
>have exam tomorrow
>was up all night
>have to read 300-page book
>sleepy as shit
>considering just listening to 8 hour audiobook even though I could probably read the book in a third of that time
Should I do it lads?
I like to paint while listening to audiobooks.
I am about to commit to being a creative writing major, hopefully I didn't screw up in making this decision
>>8911935
Go for it, anon.
Wish you luck!
This might sound stupid, but what does a creative writing major actually do? Can anyone explain what they had to do when they did one/are doing one?
>>8911954
Thanks, writing is a passion of mine so this was pretty much one of my few options hope things go well