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what's the word for the "voice" of serial killer letters written in language that indicates demonic suggestion? it's something like "relest" or "pruest" i don't fucking remember

i'm either having a psychotic episode or there's a word out there i've never not seen before, then i saw it, and now i can't trace my steps to get back to it
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>>8915137
Shit, I remember that thread. Here it is m8

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prelest
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>>8915157
god bless you
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So what's the scoop on this shit?

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>you'll never have a kid to read your favourite children's novels to at bed time
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>you will never read the western canon to your children as they age
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>you will never teach your daughteru basic French with the help of The Little Prince
It's an abstract kind of feel
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fellas my dad didn't get married until he was 31. he didn't have kids until he was 40. youve got time to work through whatever issues youve got and settle down with a femanon and have some kids to read delillo to. life is long

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I used to write all the time for fun. My days are filled with ideas of stories and settings and scenes that I want to turn into words but whenever I push myself to sit in front of the keyboard to write something I can't do it.

How do I break out of this? I've lost my creativity somewhere along the way and I want it back.
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JUST DO IT
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>>8914954
O-okay
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Read more. The more you read good books, the more you'll feel like writing and reaching their level.

On the other hand, there are some people who do this and, instead, give up hope on ever writing anything good. If you find yourself inclining to that side, then give up on writing and focus on reading all you want.

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Hello gentleman I am most esteemed millennial YA author Tao Lin. I'm here to offer a book deal. You have one post to impress me. Good luck gentleman.
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CRASH! Mom made God.
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>>8914924
1.
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Is there something worthwhile about my writing style?

http://pastebin.com/mby3yWkj
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>>8914903
>http://pastebin.com/mby3yWkj

This reads like every bit of writing submitted to every critique thread ever made on every website where such threads are common.
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>>8914903
>not even a paragraph
>no voice
>soft minimalist "I just read Modern American lit and it's so cool" style
>completely vapid subject
You have no writing style, is the issue
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Find something you need to write about and then the writing will be easier

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What books should I read if I want to start studying language? Or what should I do in general?
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Learn how to grow food so you don't need to rely on others to grow it for you.
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>>8914762
?
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>>8914765
Must be a prepper. (When will they get their own board?)

You mean you're interested in linguistics in general?

What should I read first in order to fully understand The Simpsons?
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A few books of pic related.
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>hey lets slip in this sick reference so people know how smart we are
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>>8914753
>(c)2012

groening made new akbar and jeffs? i used to love those in the 90s when it was still kind of edgy and would run in those "advocate" (gay) newspapers, and whatnot, shit might have to check it out for nostalgia sake

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What is the best bible for study? I'm not an atheist and was born and baptised presbyterian but have not practiced since my youth. I've read the kjv but didnt enjoy it much and have forgotten most of it. I would like a version that is as scholarly and objective as possible. I was thinking of the esv study bible but would like some input since everything on the net seems to be biased as fuck. Thank you.
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NRSV maybe
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>>8914825
This; much better than that dirty prottie KJV

If you decide to study Christianity in depth only Catholicism and Orthodoxy are really worth looking at
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>>8914688
The Alexandria Text

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Just dropped out of college and don't know what to do with my life.

Philosophers for this feel?

Personal advice is also appreciated.
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>>8914646
I've been there 7 years ago. I still don't really have my shit together but my advice would be to put yourself out there and try as many things as possible instead of being a NEET. I was a total NEET for 2 years after dropping out, then tried to join the army, washed out, and was semi-NEET while working really marginal 1-2 day a week jobs or sometimes working from home but not making enough money to really do anything. I tried out a full time job for a few months but it was a godawful field so I quit and wrote a couple of unpublished books. Now I just started a more legitimate part time job recently but it'll still be a long while before my life can actually go anywhere.

The only real advice I can give is don't be a NEET unless you have a trust fund or an inheritance of some kind.
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>>8914646
>Personal advice is also appreciated.
Go back to college.
It's fucking easy.
Stop doing drugs.
Stop hanging around people who do drugs.
Put down the video games.
Severely limit your television consumption (or eliminate it entirely)
Find quiet spots to read/study.

College is fucking easy if you don't fall into terrible habits or surround yourself with people who aren't in a college mindset.
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What do you want to accomplish?
First step is get a job, life opens up its doors to you in huge ways once you have expendable cash.
Secondly, think about what you actually want to do. If you want to have a college degree job, then start at community college and transfer into a 4 year degree after you have most of your GenEd classes out of the way.
If you want to do something that's more of a trade job or vocation, practical experience is the only way. You CAN make a life out of Underwater Basketry or Left-Handed Puppetry but it's fucking hard and you need to be GOOD.
If your interests are not hard vocations but rather practical abilities you prefer to profit from, consider entrepreneurship/"using the internet to make money off my niche". As above, this actually requires a lot of work and a lot more luck.

If you have no real prospects, join the military or buy a POS house with cash wholesale and fix it up and rent it, you can google the math needed to figure out your overhead and profit.

Whatever you do don't subscribe to NEETism, keep yourself on some kind of productive schedule of always doing SOMETHING to move forward. And read the fuck up on any literature about discontent.

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As proposed in this thread (>>8913960 → →), this will be a reading group for Shakespeare's Four Great Tragedies:

>Macbeth
>Hamlet
>Othello
>King Lear

I propose we start this week with Macbeth, the shortest of the four.

>Why only those four?

Because they are commonly grouped together by critics since A.C. Bradley as the greatest poetic and dramatic achievement of Shakeapeare. Of course, we can discuss the relevance of that claim and its implications, not just take it as a fact. Also, book clubs here seem to be about reading big works. Not even Hamlet could take that slot, so we are reading the four to "compensate".

>Aren't we doing a "Go Hard With the Bard" reading group?

We can do that, but I don't plan to take responsibility/management for that group. I also think we should do the FGT for now to test the waters and as a sort of introduction to Shakespeare for those who haven't read him. They also offer a set number of plays so that we don't have to choose and discriminate other plays (i.e. why not read X or Y comedy/tragedy/romance/problem play/history??????).

>What about the schedule?

I propose the following: one week for general reading and discussion of one of the tragedies, one week for either rereading the selected play, read secondary sources, and/or watch one or more productions of the play to discuss.
Plays aren't the same as novels and poems: they have a dramatic text and a performance text. They are meant to be read and to be performed, and many interesting things can be done with the performance text. It would bring about interesting discussions.

>You mentioned supplemental reading. What about it?

Secondary sources are optional, but I suggest we use two “main” texts as secondary sources:

>The Meaning of Shakespeare, two volumes, by Harold Goddard
>Shakespeare: The Invention of the Human, by Harold Bloom

Here's a link with a lot of supplemental reading and secondary sources on Shakespeare. Goddard and Bloom are in there.

https://mega.nz/#!thsg0Q4S!3jxmsVHZqcaPMX_gwak4OSn7SVPOqWNWUuO2StcQAH0

>What about editions of the plays?

As far as editions go, you can choose from Oxford, Norton, New Cambridge, or Arden. In the MEGA link I shared, there are Arden editions for Hamlet and Othello, and an Oxford edition for King Lear. For Macbeth, here’s a link to the New Cambridge edition: http://bookzz.org/md5/31AFF3A8D2CC72A9EDA1F7110C10789C


Any other questions or suggestions are welcome.
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Reading groups are gay
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I love any Shakespeare thread.

I was watching Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story the other day, and, there was was a bit within a montage scene that I blanked out of my mind when I was younger, because my affinity for literature didn't come much later until I (in)voluntarily purged my love for video games.

Anyway, in the scene, Dewey is teaching his kids about Macbeth. The scene only lasts about 10 seconds, wherein Dewey says something along these lines:

"Macbeth, on the outside, is about revenge, but what is the underlying theme? The underlying theme is a battle for the Scottish throne!"

And I'm sitting there, wondering how self-aware the writers of this movie are, and I guess if I had to answer, I'd say they aren't.

I've read Macbeth three times and, at the risk of my showing my cards... it's the only play I've seen live. I have to eat and take a wicked piss, but if I had to define Macbeth with an underlying theme (pardoning the elementary analysis):

Macbeth is about getting what you want, not knowing if that's good enough, and the constant pursuit of something """""greater""""", whatever that means.

Oh, and besides Ophelia, Lady Macbeth is my Shakespeare WAIFU
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>>8914647
>Macbeth is about getting what you want, not knowing if that's good enough, and the constant pursuit of something """""greater""""", whatever that means.

I agree with you to an extent. In the play there's ambiguity in desire, but it is more than that.

Macbeth wants something greater no matter the cost, yes, but wouldn't you say that he is pushed that extreme? He is indecisive at first, but Lady Macbeth is the one that convinces him that he can be much more than he is now, but only if he acts.

But then the three weird sisters appear. I think they represent a sort of predetermintation. Macbeth wouldn't have done what he did had he not met the sisters. Then, are the sisters scrying the future, or setting it into motion?

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Am I the only one who finds the prose really awkward to read in Brave New World?

The ideas are GOAT, but the prose feels jarring for some reason. This is not a meme post.

Also, ITT: books with great ideas but so-so prose.
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>>8914468
No, it's not just you. Huxley wrote some average as duck prose and while the book is enjoyable, it kind of detracts from the overall experience.
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i read brave new world first and then 1984, and thought the latter was way better

first half of brave new world was pretty boring

am i pleb
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What am i in for?
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>>8914450
Did you like Yukio Mishima's Sailor who fell from grace with the sea?
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>>8914467
Yeah, I did not understand the ending though. Did the sailor truly regret leaving behind the sea or was he just reminiscing?
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A good time, except for that 100 or so page section in the second part of Two Towers where Frodo and Sam wander around aimlessly. Fuck me, still get PTSD-related panic attacks thinking of it.

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For these threads we'll follow a rough list of:

The Iliad
The Odyssey
Theogony

and work our way up to Shakespeare's Tragedies.

We'll first read the Iliad.
Broken into 24 books, I think we can read 2 of them a day. Supplementary reading is optional. Even if you've already read the Iliad or the Greeks, come take part in discussion if you'd like. No set translation is expected, and the Iliad is within public domain, so any translation online would do fine.

We begin with the origins of the war, the thoughts within two great commanders' heads, and trickery
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When is this starting? I would be interested in actually starting with the Greeks.
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>>8914368
10/10 keen
can some sperg make a schedule so I can write it into my calendar
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>>8914388
preferably tomorrow.
>>8914392
none needed, just remember to read 2 books out of it a , If this is too demanding for some reason then we can cut to one book a day, but that seems awfully slow

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Anyone else remember watching this sometimes in middle/high school? kek

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JrOkT6VYKA&index=36&list=PLghL9V9QTN0jTgA1qrhWrBCB_Ln4xlVlB
What do you think about his analysis /lit/?
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>kek
Still in high school?
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>>8914350
Nope. Just being nostalgic.
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>>8914350
No, but u r

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How come lit never told me about this dude? I had to learn about him from some forum for silicon valley dickheads. he writes biblical literary criticism, theory of mimesis and desire, and a bunch of other shit that seems like lit would be into, also, unlike 99% of 20th century french philosophical fucks he's catholic not jew
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I've seen him discussed on here before.

Have you actually read any of his stuff?

Is the Girard Reader the best place to start?
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>>8914318
well there is that one fag who always brings up girard i don't know what his deal is

oh wait nevermind that fag is me. makes sense now

anyways have fun, girard is the best
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Hey, could anyone brief me on Girard a bit? My friend's been trying to get me into him for a while because I'm into all sorts of weird demi-Catholic neo-Thomist shit. I emailed him today asking him to give me the scoop but he won't reply for a bit.

>>8914345
I think I've read some of your posts on him.

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