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Slouching Towards Kalamazoo

the republic

This guy will metaphorically rip out your tongue and shove it straight up your rectum in a debate.

He has read Jung and Nietzsche

There's already a thread about him.

>>8911566
What translation are you reading? Pic related?

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>>8911570
The Introduction I read was by Joseph Frank
The Translation I'm reading is by Constance Garnett.

Also for those interested, I took the liberty of finding the audio book for my translation and have proceeded to post the video times for each chapter in the comments below. You can find the link here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IfFZKK0gJg&t

For those that might scold me for using an audio book, please keep in mind, I'm very new to Russian Literature, and I tend to struggle with the names, but no doubt, I still wish to learn how to say them properly. Also the audiobook reader is Robert Whitfield, and he is exceptional.

>>8911566
>However, when it comes to the world of women, relationships, and marriage, The Prince seems more of a child infatuated with beauty than any truer understanding of love.

Yes. This is intentional. It's a critique (or, in softer terms, a musing on) the supposed unconditional love of god. What does that sort of love mean, if the same love could be applied to a child rapist and murderer, as to an innocent child? Would that sort of love have to be inherently shallow and ignorant? It's an interesting idea.

Myshkin isn't meant to be just a positive stand-in for God. The whole point of the character is to examine how "true" Christianity, Christian ideals and acting literally as Jesus would, would fly in modern (at the time) society.

At least, that's my reading of it. I wouldn't get too stuck on the Myshkin-Jesus thing as the only thing to pull from the novel. I ended up getting more from Natassya (probably spelled incorrectly, I'm terrible with these Russian names).

Garnett, the translation you're reading, isn't my favourite translation, the McDuff one is a lot better, but it's not catastrophically bad or anything.

Nothing wrong with audiobooks, actually quite a good idea for Russian lit IMO. I might try that with the next Russian lit book I read.

You can literally just google "french literature," but whatever.

François Rabelais – La vie de Gargantua et de Pantagruel ("Gargantua and Pantagruel")
17th century
Honoré d'Urfé – L'Astrée
Madame de Lafayette – La Princesse de Clèves
18th century
Abbé Prévost – Manon Lescaut
Voltaire – Candide, Zadig ou la Destinée
Jean-Jacques Rousseau – Julie, ou la nouvelle Héloïse
Denis Diderot – Jacques le fataliste (Jacques the Fatalist)
Montesquieu – Persian Letters
Pierre Choderlos de Laclos – Les Liaisons dangereuses
Marquis de Sade – Justine (Sade)
19th century
François-René de Chateaubriand – Atala, René
Benjamin Constant – Adolphe
Stendhal – Le Rouge et le Noir (The Red and the Black), La Chartreuse de Parme (The Charterhouse of Parma)
Honoré de Balzac – La Comédie humaine ("The Human Comedy", a novel cycle which includes Père Goriot, Lost Illusions, and Eugénie Grandet)
Alexandre Dumas – The Count of Monte Cristo, The Three Musketeers
Victor Hugo – Notre Dame de Paris (The Hunchback of Notre Dame), Les Misérables
Théophile Gautier – Mademoiselle de Maupin
Gustave Flaubert – Madame Bovary, Salammbô, L'Éducation sentimentale (Sentimental Education)
Jules Verne – Vingt mille lieues sous les mers (Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the Sea), Voyage au centre de la Terre (A Journey to the Center of the Earth), Le tour du monde en quatre-vingts jours (Around the World in Eighty Days)
Edmond and Jules de Goncourt – Germinie Lacerteux
George Sand – La Petite Fadette
Guy de Maupassant – Bel Ami, La Parure (The Necklace), other short stories
Émile Zola – Thérèse Raquin, Les Rougon-Macquart (a novel cycle which includes L'Assommoir, Nana and Germinal)
20th century
André Gide – Les Faux-monnayeurs (The Counterfeiters), L'Immoraliste (The Immoralist)
Marcel Proust – À la recherche du temps perdu (In Search of Lost Time)
Albert Cohen
François Mauriac
Louis Aragon
Blaise Cendrars
André Breton – Nadja
Gaston Leroux – Le Fantôme de l'Opéra (The Phantom of the Opera)
Roger Martin du Gard – Les Thibault (The Thibaults)
Louis-Ferdinand Céline – Voyage au bout de la nuit (Journey to the End of the Night)
Colette – Gigi
Jean Genet – Notre-Dame-des-Fleurs
Julien Gracq – Le Rivage des Syrtes (The Opposing Shore)
André Malraux – La Condition Humaine (Man's Fate), L'Espoir (Man's Hope)
Albert Camus – L'Étranger (The Stranger)
Michel Butor – La Modification
Marguerite Yourcenar – Mémoires d'Hadrien

Yes, because difficult french literature is really what I need for my low skilled french.

>>8911501
Then google french YA fiction, jesus christ, you're one huge inept little shit.

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>>8911312

>>8911315
>voters gave a list of 5 books
86% of respondents said Ulysses did NOT belong in even the top 5 let alone #1

>>8911394
When voters give any less you end up with books vying for 60+ spots with 1 or 2 votes to them.

>>8911298
History of philosophy without any gaps

It's pretty good

>>8911298
That quote is wrong

It's
>The light music of whisky falling into glasses made an agreeable interlude.
From his short story Grace.

It's just an alright descriptive sentence that could've been written by any other decent writer, but the quote in the OP makes Joyce seem like a pleb. The quote in the OP makes Joyce sound like a pleb. He sounds like a pseud.

>>8911326
Sorry.

I would love to see a film of Lot 49. Cool picks, basically any off-beat 60s era music works well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yofX3N0Obz8

>>8911185
Nothing by The Paranoids? Pfff

>>8911185
Could you explain to me how each of those songs fit into the film?
The main reason why this movie has never been made is because the story is literal shit. For a novel, its really more of a short story, a like pynchon-lite: a short mission statement type thing. It's just the trick, but not much of the meat. It's shallow in a funny way at least. There isn't enough tension to really carry a movie.

>>8911079
No

>>8911079
>implying i read

a thread died for this

When you say 'the book' do you mean books 1-5 or actually just the first? I forget how book one ends, actually. Book 5's ending was hardly a copout though. That was kind of the opposite I felt, taking full responsibility, leaving no wiggle room for the series. A tad dark though.

>>8911076
Honestly, I didn't even know there was a fifth book until like, 3 minutes ago. I thought there was only 4.

Thoughts on Eoin Colfer 's addition?

>>8911027
it is posted for crit here on lit, mon ami

If it was written by a man.

>>8911032
fuck, I wouldn't want to be the patriarchy right now

>>8911022

Love in the Time of Cholera, by Marquez

Works of Love, and Fear and Trembling by Kierkegaard.

"Worldly wisdom is of the opinion that love is a relationship between persons; Christianity teaches that love is a relationship between: a person—God—a person, that is, that God is the middle term. However beautiful a relationship of love has been between two people or among many, however complete all their desire and all their bliss have been for themselves in mutual sacrifice and devotion, even though everyone has praised this relationship—if God and the relationship with God have been omitted, then this, in the Christian sense, has not been love but a mutually enchanting defraudation of love. To love God is to love oneself truly, to help another person to love God is to love another person, to be helped by another person to love God is to be loved."

The Kreutzer Sonata.

you don't need anything to understand stirner

that's why he's so beloved here

>>8911013
Naw. Maybe a little wiki stuff. Hegelianism is irrelevant

Might like to read up on the history of the era. He lived through the 1848 European Spring revolutions

>>8911013
If you read his stuff in german, you might miss many puns and injokes if you don't know your hegel

>>8910757

Read that about 4 years ago. I was really impressed. Strangely enough it was recommended to me by an anon on here for the same reason. Are you me??

pesis

the /lit/ commies come out in full force to defend their retarded ideology

>There had been works about the Soviet prison/camp system before, and its existence had been known to the Western public since the 1930s. However, never before had the general reading public been brought face to face with the horrors of the Gulag in this way. The controversy surrounding this text, in particular, was largely due to the way Solzhenitsyn definitively and painstakingly laid the theoretical, legal, and practical origins of the Gulag system at Lenin's feet, not Stalin's. According to Solzhenitsyn's testimony, Stalin merely amplified a concentration camp system that was already in place. This is significant, as many Western intellectuals viewed the Soviet concentration camp system as a "Stalinist aberration".

tl;dr butthurt gommie apologists

>>8910713
Dalai has two other books on happiness. I doubt much is being expanded upon in any of them.
/lit/ claims to be more interested in cynicism, depression, suicide and anti-natalism. The memers and joyless twats will shit all over its simple values and maybe even hit its commercialism.

>>8910713

Archbiship Tutu's greatest appearance (wait for it)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7qTHbOEiDY

>>8911023
>/lit/ claims to be more interested in cynicism, depression, suicide and anti-natalism
ie human nature
If we had an abnormal psych board, then you could post about your delusional happyshit there