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>mfw somebody doesn't start with the Greeks
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The Ancient Greeks

Homer (ca.800BC)
Iliad; Odyssey.
Hesiod (ca.700BC)
Works and Days; Theogony.
Archilochos
Sappho (ca.600BC)
Alkman
Pindar.
Odes.
Aeschylus (525 BC - 456 BC)
Oresteia; Seven Against Thebes; Prometheus Bound; Persians; Suppliant Women.
Sophocles (c. 496-c. 405 BC)
Oedipus the King; Oedipus at Colonus; Antigone; Electra; Ajax; Women of Trachis; Philoctetes.
Euripides (480 or 484-406 BC)
Cyclops; Heracles; Alcestis; Hecuba; Bacchae; Orestes; Andromache; Medea; Ion; Hippolytus; Helen; Iphigenia at Aulis.
Aristophanes (ca. 446 BC - 385 BC)
The Birds; The Clouds; The Frogs; Lysistrata; The Knights; The Wasps; The Assemblywomen.
Herodotus, 485–420BCE
The Histories.
Thucydides, ca.460 BCE
The Peloponnesian Wars.
The Pre-Socratics (Heraclitus, Empedocles)
Plato, c.427-c.347 BCE
Dialogues.
Aristotle, 384–322 BCE
Poetics; Ethics.

Hellenistic Greeks

Menander, ca. 342–291 BC
The Girl from Samos.
Longinus.
On the Sublime.
Callimachus.
Hymns and Epigrams.
Theocritus.
Idylls.
Plutarch, 46–120
Lives; Moralia.
Aesop (620 - 560 BC)
Fables.
Lucian.
Satires.
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>>8910932
Lucian is so fun (assuming you mean of Samosata and i'm not a big dummy)
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>>8910898
It didn't start with the Greeks, so why start with the Greeks.

>start with the Mesopotamians

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So you want to read all the coolest Roman texts, right? Livy and Virgil? But you don't know Latin?! Fear not!

I promised /lit/ a while ago I'd do this, and I have.

magnet:?xt=urn:btih:887d1173534c026cca96924c84525175739e425d&dn=Latin.7z

A collection of videos from the Great Courses'™ course "Latin 101: Learning a Classical Language".

It's a collection of 36 half-hour long videos teaching the Latin language with an accompanying PDF file. The course is taught by Professor Hans-Friedrich Mueller, who seems very pretentious, but he still knows fluent Latin.

Currently seeding, please seed after dl!
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>>8910853
how do you get the file?
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>>8910896
It's a torrent. You use a torrent client like Vuze or uTorrent. It's also illegal, so security measures are a good idea. Head over to /t/ if you're interested, otherwise, I can upload the textbook to MEGA if you'd like
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>>8910916
Thanks, I've been meaning to learn latin.

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Read the book posted under yours.
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Point Doom by Dan Fante
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Typee - Herman Melville
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Peace and War by Leo Tolstoy
Enjoy :)

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What are you going to read in 2017?
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>good stack desu
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>>8910755
Who are you quoting?
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should I read Middlemarch or the Border Trilogy?
I'm on a western kick right now, but want to read something kind of long and challenging, and I already know what I'm in for with McCarthys prose

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Read it, Lauren.
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Go read Jason
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>>8910689
For you, Martin
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Have fun Chris

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what are some essential books from this decade?
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>>8910573
Thinking fast and slow daniel kahneman.
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>>8910581
Not sure if bait or serious
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>>8910573
My diary desu

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>"Agassi looks scrawny and faggy and, with his shaved skull and beret-ish hat and black shoes and socks and patchy goatee, like somebody just released from reform school"
>"The wraith is back...except now with him is another, younger, way more physically fit wraith in kind of faggy biking shorts and U.S. tank top who's leaning way over Gately's railing and... fucking licking Gately's forehead with a rough little tongue..."
>"full boxes of faggy or poorly-absorbent gear nobody wants"
>B.U.'s players all hailed (literally( from New England country clubs and wore ironed shirts and those faggy white tennis sweaters with that blood-colored stripe across the chest"
>"Orin’s now former doubles partner, a strabismic and faggy-sweatered but basically decent guy who also happened to be heir to the Nickerson Farms Meat Facsmile fortune, had his cleft-chinned and solidly B.U.-connected Dad make ‘a couple quick calls’ from the back seat of his forest-green Lexus."
>"It isn’t like a faggy or sexual thing."
Why did he hate fags so much? Was it just a 90s thing?
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90's thing probably
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>>8910540
>ok Dave I know there's a sofa over there but I want you to just squat down in the middle of the room, yeah that's it, real sincere
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>>8910540
He didn't hate fags, he's simply describing people who are doing faggy things, where "faggy" is a catch-all term for things people do or wear to look cool, but of course end up not looking cool.

And of course Davey hated people who did things or wore things to look cool, too, especially people who feigned disinterest, but there's another word for that.

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I finally decided to take /lit/'s advice and start reading the Greeks. It's pretty interesting but also really weird. I'm reading pic related and there's a whole lot of incest, rape, and cucking in the mythology and there's even some mpreg. At one point Zeus even inspires lust in a giant so that it would try to rape his sister/wife.

What is up with the Greeks? Why were they such weirdos? What else will I run into? Will there be furries too?
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>>8910528
>find out Apollo was apparently a hugely promiscuous bi-sexual
>tfw try to reconcile that with the fact that sexually conservative America decided to name it's moon program after him
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>>8910528
furries are the strongest race
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Just as weird as people have always been

Wait till you read some Apuleius

So, I want to read this one...

Do I require preparation? What should I know beforehand?
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>>8910522
start with the greeks
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>>8910522
Why do you want to read it?
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>>8910522
Know that you'll fail many, many times.

This is a book deep inside the mind of a man who spent his life writing and creating stories, tales, sitting in pubs drinking and immersing himself in the culture of Ireland.

Us as petty Americans (and other countries) can never truly know this experience, and people who aren't Joyce will never understand everything he meant to say. That's kind of the brilliance of it- Joyce was a profoundly Romantic author in his later works. He didn't write to entertain and delight, but to express himself as thoroughly and honestly as he could. Ulysses, along with Finnegans Wake, is a novel that isn't mean to be "understood" (if that's pretentious enough). It's meant to be enjoyed, and it's supposed to make you feel what Joyce felt. There are, of course, some parts that make perfect sense. But Joyce plays with everything.

If you're going to read this novel, bring a copy of the Odyssey with you. Joyce pretty much paraphrased the Odyssey (almost word for word) in this book. It's a modernized adaptation of the Odyssey about a man's travels in Ireland (specifically Dublin).

Don't expect to understand everything. Not even the academics do. My english professor has read the novel hundreds of times and says he finds something new every time. Maybe there's a little piece of it that Joyce didn't understand, too.

Such is Ireland.

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How long did it take you to read it, /lit/?
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Ten hours, like every book I read.
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a week
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About 5 months. I took too long. Would have enjoyed it more if I went faster. Read it at a nice clip and then read the beginning again when you're done.

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/lit/, what do you think of Jordan Peterson's new video? Is he right?

He isn't looking so good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnEFt20qe0o
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16:05

This is why leftists want to bury him.
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>>>/soc/
/lit/ is a board for literature, not random youtubers
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Come on, this is the third thread now. Stop posting this.

Best method for reading this and not becoming confused with it?
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just fucking read it you insufferable faggot
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Read the sentences in chronological order
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>>8910224
Becoming confused by it is part of the pleasure. It's genuinely what Pynchon intended. Don't feel guilty about it.

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What does /lit/ think of August Strindberg?
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I'm sure some people like him. Not as interesting as Munch. Not as crazy as we want him to be.
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I read Röda rummet and Drömspiel, good stuff
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>>8910060
His correspondence with Nietzsche is hilarious.

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So i've been feeling like pic related. Give me educated and intellectual reasons why i'm wrong and retarded for thinking like this. Some background: I'm a philosophical noob when it comes to these things and also english is not my first languange so excuse my possible awkward wording. I haven't adopted these views from any source, only discovered after i began to realize someone must've thought all this shit out before me, and sure enough, i was right. Schopenhauer, Nietczhe, Mainlander, etc. I haven't deeply read any of their works yet but will do so in near future. If you know any not-so-mainstream authors on the topic you're welcome to suggest. AND if anyone knows the exact gatecory for this way of thinking please do tell - is it something like extreme material reductionism? As i said, not really an expert on this, just discovering all the main authors and people behind this kind of philosophy.

Tl;dr is this just babby's first existencial crisis part II (material reductionism when seeking the objective truth behind all the spiritual nonsense?) and if so what arguments there are that prove this viewpoint wrong?

Also i'm aware of all the religious / spiritual viewpoints that there might exist and i think we're all intellectual enough to not need to go that route.
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I'll bump this once - and give it one chance - by adding that I really thought about posting this for many months, knowing that /lit/ will tear it to pieces. Or that it will simply quickly pass into obscurity without any replies. Either outcome didn't feel that appealing, thus the hesitation. Anyway, I'd like some recommendations on lesser known authors or solid arguments why i'm wrong. This has been really bothering me for a long time now.
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>>8909871
Read Nietzsche to transcend nihilism
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>>8909871
>dude genes lol

If i murdered someone would that just be generic? What if i can't get an erection for sex? Did my genes tell me not top pass them on?

What a biology meme. Thinking everything is predetermined by dna author thinking about psychology and culture or anything besides
>muh all knowing science

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New Year's Edition
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>>8909726
The only reason I haven't killed myself is because I'm a coward.
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>tfw no literary gf
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Tonight I'm gonna just stay home and read.

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