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>>8918014
Either you have the Art in you or you do not; lest most here do not have the talent needed for Literature.

-Renaldo

i feel like a lot of creative careers are a matter of endurance, you just have to keep spamming the world with art until it takes notice. yeah, sure, some ppl emerge fully formed from school and become rockstars, but if that's not you then you just have to grind, if you're legit good you will get a break someday, i feel like ppl who are really doing professional tier creative work are going to get compensated for it eventually

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>>8918014
Last year I saw Vargas Llosa at an award ceremony in which he was bestowed upon a coveted prize. There, at the ceremony, when he presented a speech, he stated that for any writer, no matter how talented, he or she must spend countless hours devoted simply to practicing their writing. It goes without saying that this applies to nearly every single art, profession, or the like.

I have only read The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes which is an anthology of short stories but it was mad comfy. Well written, features an interesting character, and the misty, smokey atmosphere is a perfect suit for detective stories. It's nothing mindblowing but it's a fun read.

>>8917986
Unless you're a pompous dick looking in the wrong place for "high art and fine literature," yes, it's ultra-comfy. It's fine Victorian pulp, written with nary a care.

10/10 Victorian lit.

>>8917927

my life desu

It'd be Gene Wolfe

>>8917940
Well that is still science fiction. I mean would such books come out only after we accomplished or invented things that we write about in modern science fiction books? I dont mean the end of earth subgenre. More like the fact how advanced would the vision of future be that we could call it post-sci-fi. What would it actually be about.

I can imagine him making a cameo on frasier

>>8917926
it's a bloated work that /lit/ only likes because Gass is probably an anti-semite

"The bloat is a consequence of sheer adipose verbosity and an unremitting condition of moral and intellectual flatulence. (.....) The abjection of (Gass') hero seems less lived than written. It is an act of ventriloquism: behind the repulsive, potentially fascist narrator stands his critic, the novelist, presumably committed to humane, democratic values. But those values are nowhere intimated in the book, and what emerges is a kind of inadvertent complicity between author and protagonist. The supposedly critical novel becomes an enactment of bad faith." - Robert Alter, The New Republic

Goading the reader with obscenity and bigotry, Gass breathes so hard, we never believe Kohler as a cracked vessel of foul vapors and invidious intent. He’s a bogus boogie-man, guilty of overacting. He hogs the page.

Bourgeois middlebrow shit for upper middle classmen who want to roleplay that they're still in college and anyone gives a fuck that they have a critical opinion on shitty contemporary non-books like Jonathan Franzen's "The Corrections" while they waste their lives crunching numbers and sucking cocks for the machine

>>8917915
fp=bp

prefer london review of books

>>8917903
Pretty decent prose stylist, though his themes are so depressing I only like to read a few stories at a time. No idea why he keeps getting compared to Lovecraft, since what I've read seems to have more in common with Kafka's grim surrealism. I keep meaning to do My Work Is Not Yet Done, since it seems like that's a lot different in format from his usual stuff.

>>8917903
What a weird pic to put on the OP

Orpheus > Izanagi

>>8918393
smt grind is very ligotti-an

>>8918280
because both tend to deal with unnameable while attempting to create atmosphere, glimpses etc, only hpl occasionally let his race war banalities shine through while ligotti managed to keep his childish philosophy at bay up until that nihilism expose of his.

I would give anything to see a place truly free of spooks

Are there places that really have NO spooks?

I don't want to marry a slut who's been pounded in the ass by Chad every weekend for the last 10 years

>>8917910
Marriage is a spook

Getting pounded in the ass by Chad is a spook

Unspook her and unspook yourself and you'll be good to go

>Science Fiction
>thesis

spooks

>contributions
>spooks

Science Fiction

>>8917791
>Science Fiction
>Spooks

Contribution to theses

Guess me and OP are the only real litizens.

Rip

Who will defend art as more than just property now

Fuck really? That's depressing

>>8917767
>le feminist english accent "whoa so artsy and sophisticated" critic man

https://docs.google.com/document/u/1/d/1y8_RRaZW5X3xwztjZ4p0XeRplqebYwpmuNNpaN_TkgM/pub

>>8917703
Presocratics
Plato
Aristotle
Seneca / Aurelius
Plotinus
Augustine
Aquinas
Duns Scotus
Ockham
Erasmus
Pico Dela Mirandola
Descartes
Leibniz
Spinoza
Locke
Hume
Berkeley
Kant
Fichte
Schelling
Hegel
Schopenhauer
Nietzsche
Kierkegaard
Dilthey
Husserl
Heidegger
Wittgenstein
>ENDGAME

>>8917779
Meh

>>8917697
The Sailor Who Fell from Grace with the Sea or The Temple of the Golden Pavilion.

>>8917697
Start with The Sailor who Fell with Grace from the Sea or Patriotism. Both are pretty short and are good examples of his style and it's blending of nationalism, violence and sex. If you like them, then read Temple of the Golden Pavilion and Confessions of a Mask. Save the Sea of Fertility for last.

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Don't skip Temple, it's one of his best books.

>>8917599
Say it ain't so. Remember watching 'Ways of Seeing'. Brilliant TV.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0pDE4VX_9Kk

2017 is shit. Can't wait for it to be over.

Never read it.

I assume it's 6/10

>>8917524

I used to assume this too, turns out the writer is the beez kneez

I actually disliked both the writing and the plot.

I figured I could stomach the narrative if Humbert was at all likable or defensible, or if Nabokov's writing made it worth it to continue, but in my opinion neither turned out to be the case.

Humbert was just an irredeemably creepy fuck the whole way through and, though it seemed like Nabokov's intention, the lack of any real redeeming qualities or humanization really turned me off.

And my god, the writing was the definition of pretentious. I fucking hated it worse than Humbert. Nabokov must have been thumbing through a thesaurus with one hand while looking at some shit dug up from the Victorian period with the other (all while being blown by a loli).

Fuck Lolita. 2/5

the waves go forward
the waves go back

the waves go forward
the waves go back

the waves go forward
the waves go back

but still the little boat sails on

he jizzed
on my
face
again
but I
will not wipe it
off
I will wear it
proud
for everyone
to see
again

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Reading Schedule

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What. A. Slut.

I'm not too sad for my boy Andrei, really think he dodged a bullet there. The idea of him further abandoning his son to live with Natasha was quite distressing. Though the hints at him becoming more like his father are troubling too.

Tolstoi's hard-on for Natasha is irrepressible. She completely disgraces herself, her family and her betrothed and he still tries to paint her in a sympathetic light, and ends the section by having yet another main character fall in love with her. Must be Nikolai's turn next.

At least Pierre has nothing worthwhile to fuck up.

Sonya was the big winner in the waifu power rankings today.

Excited for the next book, 1812 is finally here.

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>Marya Dmitrievna having found Sonya weeping in the corridor, made her confess everything, and intercepting the note to Natasha she read it and went into Natasha’s room with it in her hand.
‘You shameless slut!’ said she. ‘I don’t want to hear a single word.'

>'Disgusting, abominable … In my house … horrid girl, slut! I’m only sorry for her father!’ she thought, trying to restrain her wrath.