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>"Socrates: Nor can we reasonably say, Cratylus, that there is knowledge at all, if everything is in a state of transition and there is nothing abiding; for knowledge too cannot continue to be knowledge unless continuing always to abide and exist. But if the very nature of knowledge changes, at the time when the change occurs there will be no knowledge; and if the transition is always going on, there will always be no knowledge, and, according to this view there will be no one to know and nothing to be known: but if that which knows and that which is known exists ever, and the beautiful and the good and every other thing also exist, then I do not think that they can resemble a process of flux"

Well, which is it /lit/?
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stupid catposter
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>>8921770
not an answer
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>>8921773
Your questions is kind of vague, to be honest, desu.

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>pic related and Dylan is what passes for poets in the land of the free

hahahahahahahahaahahahaha
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ride the snake
to the lake
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with the difference that Jimbo is good, Dylan is shit
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no one remembers your name when you're strange

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ITT: We discuss the Bible
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Faith without works is dead, and the Bible proves it time and time again

Anything on the contrary is simply incorrect
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Greatest book ever written
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>>8921731
Agreed, anon.

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Best book ever.

Discuss

This is the ethos of the United States. If you don't like something, don't cry about it. Change it.
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That's the ethos of 66% of the United States, soon to be <40%.
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Adventures of augie march by bellow was a better stab at the great American novel.
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Start of Book 3: 1812

The reading for day 13 is B3 Part 1 Chapter 1 through Chapter 13, pp. 644-697.

>Ebooks and audiobook
https://mega.nz/#F!4QVj1b4B!BMF7h3um_c5qWHQCP_aw6g

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What did everyone think of the more didactic style of the first chapter of this book?

I think he makes a convincing argument but it was mostly already conveyed more powerfully before, for example with Andrei's experience at Austerlitz and his disillusionment with greatness after his encounter with Napoleon. Though in its rejection of the idea of the war having singular causes the chapter does seem to give a useful overview of the typical history textbook answers to that question for those of us not fully clued up on events.

And how do you feel about the passages exclusively concerned with real people and events, like Balashov's dispatch to Napoleon? Do you regret it when none of our fictional heroes are there to at least observe?

I think I enjoy it more when Tolstoi manages to integrate the historical and the fictional, such as that scene where Boris overhears the Emperor. It portrays the necessary factual event and reinforces our understanding of Boris' character, all without straining believability.
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>Rostov, smoking his pipe and turning his head about as the water trickled down his neck, listened inattentively, with an occasional glance at Ilyin who was pressing close to him. This officer, a lad of sixteen who had recently joined the regiment, was now in the same relation to Nikolai that Nikolai had been to Denisov seven years before. Ilyin tried to imitate Rostov in everything, and adored him as a girl might have done.

I don't give this youngster much chance of surviving the war.
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>>8921578
I think Tolstoy gives a classic fatalistic argument, ie reality is determined and we cannot grasp the full picture so our perceived causes are only illusions.
I think this is a wrong way of looking at things; we've evolved to find causes in things because we can influence those causes to change things to our liking. While Napoleon was a product of his time when he reached power, his decisions DID matter, and looking at historic "causes" such as his intentions and mistakes can actually make us more prepared to deal with the present.

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Hello literature people. I'm going to be going to Barnes and Noble today. Please tell me what to buy. I'm not much of a reader but I wanna get into books. I want to learn.
Im going to get Lolita. Any other recommendations?

I will buy the book no matter what if your post ends in 1.
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The Illiad, get it. Also Meditations by Marcus Aurelius
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>>8921491
Faerie Queene if they have it
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>>8921491
stoner

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So, /lit/, how do you feel about the Beat generation?
Ginsberg and Burroughs and Kerouac.
Was their deviation from the norm revolutionary, changing the face of writing?
Or were they just a bunch of 20-somethings thrilled to stray from what was popular?

I loved 'On The Road', but 'Naked Lunch' is a bit harder to properly digest. I can't tell where I stand.
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Burroughs is all I can stand and it mostly due to his writing being postmodern .
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>>8921337

who's on the cover there? looks like lew welch and gary snyder
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>>8921337
I am against sexually active people and those with liberal attitudes

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So I am writing a paper in my AP English class about the sex lives of many appraised writers, and how it affected the style and power of their writing.

Did having no children or no girlfriend/wife affect their outlook on life?

Did having regular sex and being in a typical "nucleic" relationship actually improve their writings?

and

Did not having sex cause them to become mentally ill and misanthropic?
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>>8921250
That seems like a pretty dumb thing to write a paper on
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>>8921250
bait
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>>8921250
>So I am writing a paper in my AP English class about the sex lives of many appraised writers

End yourself

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Is this good or have I been memed yet again?
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Novel ideafor you mate, read it and find out.
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>>8921111
i read My work is not yet done and it was pretty bad. actually i think i just read the first one and then returned it to the library. i was disappointed because i had heard of him several years ago and "nihilist horror" is something i would love. i'll try reading something else
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It's two books reprinted as one. They're both pretty good horror collections. Very understated horror, though, more about building a sense of dread than shocking the reader. Think Robert Aickman, if Aickman decided he wanted to write more like Nabokov or Bruno Schulz.

>>8921163
MWINYD is an odd one in his body of work. I think Ligotti said in some interview that it was originally an idea he had for a movie script, and he figured that a more grounded and realistic story would have better chances at getting produced. Instead of a script he ended up writing it as a short novel. It's really not his best work, though it has some really good bits in it.

Either way, Ligotti is kinda hard to get into. The horror in his story doesn't jump at you so much as it lingers in the back of your head.

If you feel like giving him another chance, get the book OP posted and skip straight to the story "Dr. Voke and Mr. Veech." Or get Teatro Grotteco and start with whichever story you think has the most appealing title.

Why does /lit/ automatically write off "new" books, best sellers or contemporary literature? There has to be some really good stuff coming out that i'm missing.

Is pic related worth my time?
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A lot of contemporary lit is cliched navel-gazing filled with bromides to make those living in bicoastal cities think they're intellectuals. It is the con-man of literature. It offers nothing, but seems to.
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>>8921041
Because best sellers are like normie top 40 music. If you like it, good for you. Chances are, it is not anything groundbreaking
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Brief History is decent. Could have been great if it wasn't so bloated.

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Essential military history/military theory books?
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ewww
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>>8920927
sun tzu is berrer

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Considering Antigone's death was for naught, as in the end she has no valid reason for her defiance (Creon actually had good arguments), could one say that Anouilh's Antigone was proto-absurdist?

Anouilh wrote his Antigone a few years before Camus wrote any of his books about absurdism.
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Before anyone points it out, I know the pic I attached is of Sophocles' Antigone.
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>>8920844
Lol how she doesn't have valid reason
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Ignore this, I thought you were talking about Sophocles'
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What books would you recommend to a young conservative that just graduated from college with a STEM degree?

Sadly, I don't have the habit of reading, but my son does and I wanted to offer him a few books.
He mainly reads Epic fantasy, but I know he's read Alexander SoljenĂ­tsin, Orwell, Wilhelm Reich among others.

Thanks in advance.

PS: I think he drastically change his political view points after reading Alexander SoljenĂ­tsin.
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Wind, Sand and Stars
Homage to Catalonia, or Collected Essays of Orwell, whichever he hasn't read yet
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>>8920801
start with the greeks
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>>8920898
>>8920832

Thank you. Which Books from the Greeks?

What book to help you cope with crippling depression and lonliness?
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"Depression" is such a broad term that it'd be impossible to prescribe you a cure when you haven't even explained the extent of your depression, my man.

Reading Plato might help though.
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Stirner
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>>8920796
It is not precisely a sad or happy book, but I found The Magic Mountain to be extremely therapeutic and comfy. It might help you to at least to not feel alone due all the characters and ideas exposed. (However the end is kind of gloomy)

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https://youtu.be/wfWyFdeZLLA

Freddy is back
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>That Nietzsche mustache
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>>8921101
just listen to what he says lmao
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>>8920619
Who is this guy.

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